Hope the Saints don't draft this guy - OLB Jarvis Jones

SmashMouth · 03-21-2013, 08:46 PM

Originally Posted by papz

So he's not a workout warrior. It's not a big deal to me. I'm more concerned about production and he has a great track record.

If we shy away from the guy because of his health condition, fine... completely understandable. But if it's because he runs a poor 40, I think it would be a mistake. He's exactly what he's advertised as... a pass rusher. He's not a guy where you would drop him back in coverage and track TE's.

Another example of a guy who did abysmal in his workouts... Vontaze Burfict. He was an absolute stud for the Bengals last year.

Spinal Stenosis is not your average risky medical condition. Last time I checked, they do hit just a wee bit harder in the NFL.

CharityMike · 03-22-2013, 08:44 AM

Originally Posted by SmashMouth

Spinal Stenosis is not your average risky medical condition. Last time I checked, they do hit just a wee bit harder in the NFL.

You guys need to relax on this Spinal thing. It was mis-diagnosed. There was a big write up about it. I don't have time to go find the link but its out there. He is totally medically cleared.

FinSaint · 03-22-2013, 09:29 AM

Originally Posted by CharityMike

You guys need to relax on this Spinal thing. It was mis-diagnosed. There was a big write up about it. I don't have time to go find the link but its out there. He is totally medically cleared.

Exactly, I was wary of him earlier because of the medical situation with his spine, but since then it's been cleared and therefore I don't see any medical reason not to pick him.

I haven't seen him play though, so I really have to rely on scout reports and what you guys are saying about him.

burningmetal · 03-22-2013, 09:35 AM

Originally Posted by papz

So he's not a workout warrior. It's not a big deal to me. I'm more concerned about production and he has a great track record.

If we shy away from the guy because of his health condition, fine... completely understandable. But if it's because he runs a poor 40, I think it would be a mistake. He's exactly what he's advertised as... a pass rusher. He's not a guy where you would drop him back in coverage and track TE's.

Another example of a guy who did abysmal in his workouts... Vontaze Burfict. He was an absolute stud for the Bengals last year.

Exactly. Who cares about workouts when you've done what Jarvis has.

Speaking of Burfict, I can remember hearing people rave about is speed and athleticism going back to his high school days. When the draft came around and I heard his stock was tumbling, I couldn't believe it. He had apparently gotten lazy and consequently out of shape, causing a poor showing at the combine, or pro day (don't remember which one). I kept saying that if we take a flyer on him late and light a fire under him, it would be a major steal. I could've been wrong, but as it turned out, he made the Bengals look like geniuses.

There's nothing more annoying than listening to some annoying person like Mike Mayock overreacting to everything they see in a workout. " I tell ya what. Thith Jarvith Jonth guy ith really gonna be a rithky pick for whoever pickth him. He'th put up great numberth, but you worry a little when you thee that 40 time"

Can it, Mayock. You've made a fool of yourself enough times.

Shoe. · 03-22-2013, 10:13 AM

Originally Posted by burningmetal

There's nothing more annoying than listening to some annoying person like Mike Mayock overreacting to everything they see in a workout. " I tell ya what. Thith Jarvith Jonth guy ith really gonna be a rithky pick for whoever pickth him. He'th put up great numberth, but you worry a little when you thee that 40 time"

Can it, Mayock. You've made a fool of yourself enough times.

I'm glad I have a secluded office because I just burst out into laughter reading that Mayock impression. Hilarious

+1

davegriff · 03-21-2013, 08:25 PM

I'd take him!
I'd rather a guy like Mingo myself, but I like Jones.
Love the way the guy plays the game, agree with you about making sure he's on the right track!

alleycat_126 · 03-21-2013, 08:39 PM

I'm not a Jones guy, but I keep hearing that his in game is great.... That for me is voided by his medical which whether he cleared it or not would make me question him.... He's not as bad as Manti Te'o but he's not a first rounder in my book..... Also #15 is way to high for Jones.... Or Ansah.....

hagan714 · 03-21-2013, 08:44 PM

reports say he came up lame during the run. i still have a pass label on him

TheOak · 03-21-2013, 08:46 PM

Don't put too much into 40yd times etc....

Fairly meaningless litmus test.

Rugby Saint II · 03-21-2013, 09:24 PM

I can hear the wind from his stock dropping. "wink"

03-22-2013, 08:44 AM	#2
CharityMike Site Donor 2018 Join Date: Oct 2011 Location: Mid City, New Orleans Posts: 3,556	Re: Hope the Saints don't draft this guy - OLB Jarvis Jones Originally Posted by SmashMouth Spinal Stenosis is not your average risky medical condition. Last time I checked, they do hit just a wee bit harder in the NFL. You guys need to relax on this Spinal thing. It was mis-diagnosed. There was a big write up about it. I don't have time to go find the link but its out there. He is totally medically cleared. FinSaint and burningmetal like this.

03-22-2013, 09:29 AM	#3
FinSaint Site Donor 2015 Join Date: Aug 2011 Location: Finland... formerly Southern Virginia Posts: 4,964	Re: Hope the Saints don't draft this guy - OLB Jarvis Jones Originally Posted by CharityMike You guys need to relax on this Spinal thing. It was mis-diagnosed. There was a big write up about it. I don't have time to go find the link but its out there. He is totally medically cleared. Exactly, I was wary of him earlier because of the medical situation with his spine, but since then it's been cleared and therefore I don't see any medical reason not to pick him. I haven't seen him play though, so I really have to rely on scout reports and what you guys are saying about him.

03-22-2013, 09:35 AM	#4
burningmetal 1000 Posts + Join Date: Mar 2012 Posts: 3,923 Blog Entries: 3	Re: Hope the Saints don't draft this guy - OLB Jarvis Jones Originally Posted by papz So he's not a workout warrior. It's not a big deal to me. I'm more concerned about production and he has a great track record. If we shy away from the guy because of his health condition, fine... completely understandable. But if it's because he runs a poor 40, I think it would be a mistake. He's exactly what he's advertised as... a pass rusher. He's not a guy where you would drop him back in coverage and track TE's. Another example of a guy who did abysmal in his workouts... Vontaze Burfict. He was an absolute stud for the Bengals last year. Exactly. Who cares about workouts when you've done what Jarvis has. Speaking of Burfict, I can remember hearing people rave about is speed and athleticism going back to his high school days. When the draft came around and I heard his stock was tumbling, I couldn't believe it. He had apparently gotten lazy and consequently out of shape, causing a poor showing at the combine, or pro day (don't remember which one). I kept saying that if we take a flyer on him late and light a fire under him, it would be a major steal. I could've been wrong, but as it turned out, he made the Bengals look like geniuses. There's nothing more annoying than listening to some annoying person like Mike Mayock overreacting to everything they see in a workout. " I tell ya what. Thith Jarvith Jonth guy ith really gonna be a rithky pick for whoever pickth him. He'th put up great numberth, but you worry a little when you thee that 40 time" Can it, Mayock. You've made a fool of yourself enough times. Shoe. likes this.
	If I had a nickel for every time I heard that, the NFL would fine and suspend me.

03-22-2013, 10:13 AM	#5
Shoe. 500th Post Join Date: Nov 2011 Location: Hub City Posts: 576	Re: Hope the Saints don't draft this guy - OLB Jarvis Jones Originally Posted by burningmetal There's nothing more annoying than listening to some annoying person like Mike Mayock overreacting to everything they see in a workout. " I tell ya what. Thith Jarvith Jonth guy ith really gonna be a rithky pick for whoever pickth him. He'th put up great numberth, but you worry a little when you thee that 40 time" Can it, Mayock. You've made a fool of yourself enough times. I'm glad I have a secluded office because I just burst out into laughter reading that Mayock impression. Hilarious +1

03-21-2013, 08:25 PM	#6
davegriff Site Donor Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Morning Sun,Ia Posts: 45	Re: Hope the Saints don't draft this guy - OLB Jarvis Jones I'd take him! I'd rather a guy like Mingo myself, but I like Jones. Love the way the guy plays the game, agree with you about making sure he's on the right track!

03-21-2013, 08:46 PM	#1
SmashMouth I donated, did you? Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Mandeville, LA Posts: 39,131 Blog Entries: 29	Re: Hope the Saints don't draft this guy - OLB Jarvis Jones Originally Posted by papz So he's not a workout warrior. It's not a big deal to me. I'm more concerned about production and he has a great track record. If we shy away from the guy because of his health condition, fine... completely understandable. But if it's because he runs a poor 40, I think it would be a mistake. He's exactly what he's advertised as... a pass rusher. He's not a guy where you would drop him back in coverage and track TE's. Another example of a guy who did abysmal in his workouts... Vontaze Burfict. He was an absolute stud for the Bengals last year. Spinal Stenosis is not your average risky medical condition. Last time I checked, they do hit just a wee bit harder in the NFL.

03-21-2013, 08:39 PM	#7
alleycat_126 1000 Posts + Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Katy, Tx a suburb of Houston Posts: 2,089	Re: Hope the Saints don't draft this guy - OLB Jarvis Jones I'm not a Jones guy, but I keep hearing that his in game is great.... That for me is voided by his medical which whether he cleared it or not would make me question him.... He's not as bad as Manti Te'o but he's not a first rounder in my book..... Also #15 is way to high for Jones.... Or Ansah.....

03-21-2013, 08:44 PM	#8
hagan714 LB Mentallity Join Date: Dec 2005 Posts: 15,870 Blog Entries: 68	Re: Hope the Saints don't draft this guy - OLB Jarvis Jones reports say he came up lame during the run. i still have a pass label on him

03-21-2013, 08:46 PM	#9
TheOak 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Dec 2009 Location: Cypress Tx. Posts: 19,059	Don't put too much into 40yd times etc.... Fairly meaningless litmus test.

03-21-2013, 09:24 PM	#10
Rugby Saint II Bounty Money $$$ Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: 5800 Airline Dr. Metairie, LA. Posts: 24,200	Re: Hope the Saints don't draft this guy - OLB Jarvis Jones I can hear the wind from his stock dropping. "wink"

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