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this is a discussion within the Saints Community Forum; If Warmack fell to us, we select him. I'd reach on Barrett Jones in the late first before Cooper... Since Grubbs is a Grader only type; that puts Jonathan Cooper at Center......

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Old 03-31-2013, 08:40 AM   #1
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Re: Jonathan Cooper in the first??????

If Warmack fell to us, we select him.

I'd reach on Barrett Jones in the late first before Cooper...

Since Grubbs is a Grader only type; that puts Jonathan Cooper at Center...
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Originally Posted by jeanpierre View Post
If Warmack fell to us, we select him.

I'd reach on Barrett Jones in the late first before Cooper...

Since Grubbs is a Grader only type; that puts Jonathan Cooper at Center...
And what do you do with Warmack?

You've said throughout the years that you consider players selected in the first round bust if they don't start right away. So taking Warmack would be hypocritical don't you think?
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And what do you do with Warmack?

You've said throughout the years that you consider players selected in the first round bust if they don't start right away. So taking Warmack would be hypocritical don't you think?

Ok, Ok, settle down and have a Reese's Peanut Butter Egg and I'll esplain Lucy...

You could either

(a) Start him at Center, imagine that front three for Brees...

(b) Move Grubbs or Evans along with the corresponding salary hit...

(c) But you're absolutely right, and I have said it, I wouldn't let him sit and "learn"...

...point is, drafting Warmack would give you options to get younger at guard and reduce the salary commitment to a valuable, but non-skill position...

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Originally Posted by jeanpierre View Post
Ok, Ok, settle down and have a Reese's Peanut Butter Egg and I'll esplain Lucy...
A little touchy aren't we? I think "Lucy" suits you much better cause you're wearing it very well.

Now I'll address the rest of your points.

You could either

(a) Start him at Center, imagine that front three for Brees...

(b) Move Grubbs or Evans along with the corresponding salary hit...
(a) Why would I want to draft a center at 15? That's crazy especially considering how cheap and effective De La Puente is. He graded out consistently as one of the better centers in the league. Why would you want to replace him?

(b) Why would I draft a guard at 15 when we have two All Pro guards that are playing at a high level on our team? Being that we're average at tackle, let's move one of our stud guards for a rookie who may or may not become a good player. Wouldn't this be counterproductive and put our franchise quarterback at more risk? This makes little sense.

(c) But you're absolutely right, and I have said it, I wouldn't let him sit and "learn"...

...point is, drafting Warmack would give you options to get younger at guard and reduce the salary commitment to a valuable, but non-skill position...
It certainly gives us options... not sure if I'd consider them a smart route to go. Quality interior lineman are abundant in the mid rounds of every draft. It's not an area of need nor concern. Spending the 15th pick in the draft on a guard just doesn't sound like a good idea.
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A little touchy aren't we? I think "Lucy" suits you much better cause you're wearing it very well.

Now I'll address the rest of your points.



(a) Why would I want to draft a center at 15? That's crazy especially considering how cheap and effect De La Puente is. He graded out consistently as one of the better centers in the league. Why would you want to replace him?

(b) Why would I draft a guard at 15 when we have two All Pro guards that are playing at a high level on our team? Being that we're average at tackle, let's move one of our stud guards for a rookie who may or may not become a good player. Wouldn't this be counterproductive and put our franchise quarterback at more risk? This makes little sense.



It certainly gives us options... not sure if I'd consider them a smart route to go. Quality interior lineman are abundant in the mid rounds of every draft. It's not an area of need nor concern. Spending the 15th pick in the draft on a guard just doesn't sound like a good idea.
I agree no way they adjust the offensive line with a draft pick, as I I've posted on other threads if Austin is a available and there's no chance to move down for more draft picks Sean Payton doesn't pass on him or vaccaro more Austin than Viccaro. I believe Harley's Brown will get a shot at left tackle with help from newly acquired Watson and backs out of backfield just like Bushrod needed help on occasion against elite pass rushers. They may even sign a LT like McKinnie after the draft just in case the injury bug hits Brown again
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