Draft war room: New Orleans Saints

Shoe. · 04-03-2013, 09:39 AM

Hmmmm, packaging our 1st and 3rd to move up to get Johnson? Interesting idea. Potentially solves the LT issue for years to come, but no D help worries me

NuNu318 · 04-03-2013, 10:02 AM

Originally Posted by Shoe.

Hmmmm, packaging our 1st and 3rd to move up to get Johnson? Interesting idea. Potentially solves the LT issue for years to come, but no D help worries me

Thats why I like that he pointed out that the Saints have had much success picking Offensive Lineman in the later rounds. I really think if we trade back to gather more picks, its to get more talent and depth on the defensive side of the ball in the early half of the picks we have and OL/Skill players with the later half.

Shoe. · 04-03-2013, 10:24 AM

Originally Posted by NuNu318

Thats why I like that he pointed out that the Saints have had much success picking Offensive Lineman in the later rounds

The loss of Aaron Kromer concerns me when discussing this topic. I'm not saying he was the reason we have had a good amount of success with late round O lineman, but I'm curious to see if his departure causes a negative impact.

With all the talk of trading down, I'm still on the BPA bandwagon. Oak is right, we addressed a few big defensive needs in FA with some nice pickups with great $$ deals, so I would really like us to take the BPA on our board and entertain trade-down offers should the opportunity arise.

And if some RB hungry team ahead of us (I'm looking at you NYJ and maybe the Bolts, outside chance of Cards) wants to package their 1st for our 1st and Ivory on draft day in the heat of the moment (I know I'm dreaming but can't a man dream?) I would probably cackle with anticipation as I drum my fingertips together

TheOak · 04-03-2013, 10:07 AM

Originally Posted by Shoe.

Hmmmm, packaging our 1st and 3rd to move up to get Johnson? Interesting idea. Potentially solves the LT issue for years to come, but no D help worries me

Our D issues were address in FA and coaching. It's about as good as it will get or we need.

saintsfan1976 · 04-03-2013, 10:25 AM

Originally Posted by TheOak

Our D issues were address in FA and coaching. It's about as good as it will get or we need.

I still see a glaring need at OLB, maybe even ILB

TheOak · 04-03-2013, 10:39 AM

Originally Posted by saintsfan1976

I still see a glaring need at OLB, maybe even ILB

OLB - Butler, Gallett, Wilson, Broughton, Romeus
ILB - Hawthorn, Lofton, Herring, Humber, Chamberlain, Johnson, Vilma,

We have 12 line backers.. you want more?

saintsfan1976 · 04-04-2013, 06:04 AM

Originally Posted by TheOak

OLB - Butler, Gallett, Wilson, Broughton, Romeus
ILB - Hawthorn, Lofton, Herring, Humber, Chamberlain, Johnson, Vilma,

We have 12 line backers.. you want more?

We have three OLBs and three ILBs who could be starters.

Romeus (knock on wood when you say his name) and Braylon B are DEs with zero PT in the NFL.

It's Vilma's last season. Lofton's the future. Hawthorne (knee and hamstring) could be good.

Chamberlain (torn ACL), Herring & Humber are mainly ST players. Chamb was a Spags guy who's likely odd man out.

You're telling me you wouldn't want Alec Ogletree over at least 4 of those names??

TheOak · 04-04-2013, 06:06 AM

Originally Posted by saintsfan1976

We have three OLBs. And three ILBs

Romeus and Braylon B are DEs with zero PT in the NFL.

Vilma's last season. Lofton's the future. Hawthorne could be good.

Chamberlain, Herring & Humber are ST players. Chamb was a Spags guy who's likely odd man out.

You're telling me you wouldn't want Alec Ogletree over at least 4 of those names??

So we should draft a rookie with zero playtime in the NFL over players we already have with zero playtime in the NFL.

The ones we have are paid for and we have no cap space.

saintsfan1976 · 04-04-2013, 06:12 AM

Originally Posted by TheOak

So we should draft a rookie with zero playtime in the NFL over players we already have with zero playtime in the NFL.

The ones we have are paid for and we have no cap space.

Can you draft a player with NFL experience?

YES, you draft a guy who is better than three other players on your roster.

04-03-2013, 09:39 AM	#1
Shoe. 500th Post Join Date: Nov 2011 Location: Hub City Posts: 576	Re: Draft war room: New Orleans Saints Hmmmm, packaging our 1st and 3rd to move up to get Johnson? Interesting idea. Potentially solves the LT issue for years to come, but no D help worries me Rell&Gold likes this.

04-03-2013, 10:02 AM	#2
NuNu318 100th Post Join Date: Mar 2012 Location: VA Posts: 465	Re: Draft war room: New Orleans Saints Originally Posted by Shoe. Hmmmm, packaging our 1st and 3rd to move up to get Johnson? Interesting idea. Potentially solves the LT issue for years to come, but no D help worries me Thats why I like that he pointed out that the Saints have had much success picking Offensive Lineman in the later rounds. I really think if we trade back to gather more picks, its to get more talent and depth on the defensive side of the ball in the early half of the picks we have and OL/Skill players with the later half.

04-03-2013, 10:24 AM	#3
Shoe. 500th Post Join Date: Nov 2011 Location: Hub City Posts: 576	Re: Draft war room: New Orleans Saints Originally Posted by NuNu318 Thats why I like that he pointed out that the Saints have had much success picking Offensive Lineman in the later rounds The loss of Aaron Kromer concerns me when discussing this topic. I'm not saying he was the reason we have had a good amount of success with late round O lineman, but I'm curious to see if his departure causes a negative impact. With all the talk of trading down, I'm still on the BPA bandwagon. Oak is right, we addressed a few big defensive needs in FA with some nice pickups with great $$ deals, so I would really like us to take the BPA on our board and entertain trade-down offers should the opportunity arise. And if some RB hungry team ahead of us (I'm looking at you NYJ and maybe the Bolts, outside chance of Cards) wants to package their 1st for our 1st and Ivory on draft day in the heat of the moment (I know I'm dreaming but can't a man dream?) I would probably cackle with anticipation as I drum my fingertips together

04-03-2013, 10:07 AM	#4
TheOak 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Dec 2009 Location: Cypress Tx. Posts: 19,047	Re: Draft war room: New Orleans Saints Originally Posted by Shoe. Hmmmm, packaging our 1st and 3rd to move up to get Johnson? Interesting idea. Potentially solves the LT issue for years to come, but no D help worries me Our D issues were address in FA and coaching. It's about as good as it will get or we need. Joker likes this.

04-03-2013, 10:25 AM	#5
saintsfan1976 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: Atlanta Posts: 11,021 Blog Entries: 3	Re: Draft war room: New Orleans Saints Originally Posted by TheOak Our D issues were address in FA and coaching. It's about as good as it will get or we need. I still see a glaring need at OLB, maybe even ILB

04-03-2013, 10:39 AM	#6
TheOak 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Dec 2009 Location: Cypress Tx. Posts: 19,047	Re: Draft war room: New Orleans Saints Originally Posted by saintsfan1976 I still see a glaring need at OLB, maybe even ILB OLB - Butler, Gallett, Wilson, Broughton, Romeus ILB - Hawthorn, Lofton, Herring, Humber, Chamberlain, Johnson, Vilma, We have 12 line backers.. you want more? Joker likes this.

04-04-2013, 06:04 AM	#7
saintsfan1976 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: Atlanta Posts: 11,021 Blog Entries: 3	Re: Draft war room: New Orleans Saints Originally Posted by TheOak OLB - Butler, Gallett, Wilson, Broughton, Romeus ILB - Hawthorn, Lofton, Herring, Humber, Chamberlain, Johnson, Vilma, We have 12 line backers.. you want more? We have three OLBs and three ILBs who could be starters. Romeus (knock on wood when you say his name) and Braylon B are DEs with zero PT in the NFL. It's Vilma's last season. Lofton's the future. Hawthorne (knee and hamstring) could be good. Chamberlain (torn ACL), Herring & Humber are mainly ST players. Chamb was a Spags guy who's likely odd man out. You're telling me you wouldn't want Alec Ogletree over at least 4 of those names??
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04-04-2013, 06:06 AM	#8
TheOak 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Dec 2009 Location: Cypress Tx. Posts: 19,047	Re: Draft war room: New Orleans Saints Originally Posted by saintsfan1976 We have three OLBs. And three ILBs Romeus and Braylon B are DEs with zero PT in the NFL. Vilma's last season. Lofton's the future. Hawthorne could be good. Chamberlain, Herring & Humber are ST players. Chamb was a Spags guy who's likely odd man out. You're telling me you wouldn't want Alec Ogletree over at least 4 of those names?? So we should draft a rookie with zero playtime in the NFL over players we already have with zero playtime in the NFL. The ones we have are paid for and we have no cap space. Joker likes this.

04-04-2013, 06:12 AM	#9
saintsfan1976 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: Atlanta Posts: 11,021 Blog Entries: 3	Re: Draft war room: New Orleans Saints Originally Posted by TheOak So we should draft a rookie with zero playtime in the NFL over players we already have with zero playtime in the NFL. The ones we have are paid for and we have no cap space. Can you draft a player with NFL experience? YES, you draft a guy who is better than three other players on your roster.

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