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Old 04-04-2013, 06:57 PM   #1
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Re: Worst ever for Jenkins and Harper

HARPER WILL NOT START!! Roman Harper's days as a starter are over, he if still on the team will be a situational blitzer at best that's his only attribute that isn't flawed and it wasn't there last yr even when Spgs blitzed him!
NOW FOR JENKINS, He had to cover two spots making up for Harper's lack of mobility or because Patrick Robinson blows an assignment! There was chaos in that secondary all Spotlighted by the SAFETY ROMAN HARPER!
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I always said we should've just started Wilson and Gallette. Hopefully they both start at OLB.

Hicks and Jordan at DE. Bunkley at NT. I kept telling yall we don't need to replace him.
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I always said we should've just started Wilson and Gallette. Hopefully they both start at OLB.

Hicks and Jordan at DE. Bunkley at NT. I kept telling yall we don't need to replace him.
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I didn't make this post to be pessimistic. However, the truth is our D sucked last year. Our D is going to be much better with the improvements made and the switch to the 34, which many of us have wanted for years. I am actually more optimistic about our D this upcoming year then I ever have been. I just want some new ball-hawk safety.

Rob Ryan will not only bring the 34 but he will bring the attitude that GW had... just without the bounty lol

remember this attitude!


it was something we did not have with spags... RR will get that swagger back!!
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Re: Worst ever for Jenkins and Harper

Harper is not restructured and there is some reason for it. I just don't know what it is.
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Harper is not restructured and there is some reason for it. I just don't know what it is.
Presently Harper is a known, ill give him a grade of 5 out of 10 for arguments sake. If he is cut now and you get into camp and what you brought in to replace him ends up being a 5 you made a move that did not make your defense any better but just cost your self 6.1M in dead money with no gain.

Its a balancing act with Harper, cutting Harper is a move the Saints will not make until they see a move worth making. Harpers Salary this year is 5.2M, ods are that someone will draft a Safety that is as good as that teams present 6 or 7 but cheaper, and cut their Safety or want to trade their Safety allowing us to pick up something better than Harper at the same price. This plays into the 49ers and Falcons being high on draft picks and low on cap, and them having to get rid of people.

Worst case scenario, we keep him and know what to expect.

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If they only graded 88 I would of given them 90 and 91....
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I think Harper might be a June 1st cut. Just a gut feeling...
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grading is cute and well kinda stupid when you have a defense like we did last year. grading out a top 16 makes sense but after that it is totally stupid in my book. when a team get desperate they do things that are well stupid. who is to blame? DC in my book takes 75% of the blame after 8 games.

All i can say is when push came to shove on key plays in the game the entire defense got pushed and shoved all over the field.

DT all spent more time pancaked on third downs and goal lines stands than tackling

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I am really at a loss I cannot totally accept that Spags system was to blame for all this. Our worst players got exposed. Spags system worked well in the past. For that reason I am dumbfounded that we have not cut some of these guys outright. These are supposed to be pro football players and should perform at a certain level year in and year out so I am not buying it.
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I am really at a loss I cannot totally accept that Spags system was to blame for all this. Our worst players got exposed. Spags system worked well in the past. For that reason I am dumbfounded that we have not cut some of these guys outright. These are supposed to be pro football players and should perform at a certain level year in and year out so I am not buying it.
Watch the reruns of the games. There'd be ball carriers and receivers consistently running with no one within five yards of them. You can say the defense was out of position once in a while, but as often as it happened you've gotta say the players were assigned to be in the wrong position. Oh yeah, whose job was it to teach tackling? Even pros need to learn, to be taught and need to practice their skills. If they didn't then the teams wouldn't need to hire coaches in the first place. When coaches see something as being deficient, it's their job to work on it with their players. As far as Spags' system working, he was a DC for exactly two years inheriting a very well coached group of players including a stellar defensive line. He was the one that was exposed, inheriting an average group of defensive players that he couldn't coach to play average. And average was all we really needed.
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