Kenny Vaccaro

burningmetal · 04-12-2013, 05:12 AM

I don't see why some believe Vaccaro would be a reach. Based on what? There are other players who I'd gladly take, as well, but if we draft this guy I will not be one bit upset.

Whether or not he turns out to be the second coming of Reed, Sharper or Polamalu is not something you can predict. You draft the best player at whatever position you're looking to address, and whatever happens, happens. I challenge anyone to present evidence that there is a better safety, or DB in general, in this class.

TreyThomas · 04-12-2013, 07:05 AM

Originally Posted by burningmetal

I don't see why some believe Vaccaro would be a reach. Based on what? There are other players who I'd gladly take, as well, but if we draft this guy I will not be one bit upset.

Whether or not he turns out to be the second coming of Reed, Sharper or Polamalu is not something you can predict. You draft the best player at whatever position you're looking to address, and whatever happens, happens. I challenge anyone to present evidence that there is a better safety, or DB in general, in this class.

And also, we DID pick Malcolm Jenkins at pick #14. A cornerback. Would be nice to draft a true safety to meet our need. Vaccaro fills a position of need and he's the best safety in the draft. Why the hell not???

And I mean really, we HAVE to score big on a first round pick sometime soon, right? This is the year!

Danno · 04-12-2013, 08:00 AM

Originally Posted by burningmetal

I don't see why some believe Vaccaro would be a reach. Based on what? There are other players who I'd gladly take, as well, but if we draft this guy I will not be one bit upset.

Whether or not he turns out to be the second coming of Reed, Sharper or Polamalu is not something you can predict. You draft the best player at whatever position you're looking to address, and whatever happens, happens. I challenge anyone to present evidence that there is a better safety, or DB in general, in this class.

Dee Milliner and Xavier Rhodes, but I see your point. Two years from now will anyone really care if Vacarro was picked 15th, instead of around 20th, where the "so called" experts projected him?

I think there are probably better choices at 15, but I wouldn't cry about it if we picked him. I think he's gonna be a good player. I'd prefer one of the top DE/DT/OLB or WR's, but he'd be a good pick for us.

burningmetal · 04-12-2013, 08:26 AM

Originally Posted by Danno

Dee Milliner and Xavier Rhodes, but I see your point. Two years from now will anyone really care if Vacarro was picked 15th, instead of around 20th, where the "so called" experts projected him?

I think there are probably better choices at 15, but I wouldn't cry about it if we picked him. I think he's gonna be a good player. I'd prefer one of the top DE/DT/OLB or WR's, but he'd be a good pick for us.

Yeah, I'd like to have Jarvis Jones or the less experienced -but incredibly talented- Ezekiel Ansah, because I'm really itching for a pass rush.

But I'm starting to think neither of them (especially Jones) will be there. So In my opinion, Vaccaro stands as the next greatest impact player at a position of need for us. Milliner and Rhodes are good cover guys, but I like the package of cover ability and top-tier tackling skills of Vaccaro. Plus, we've already invested in a corner with Keenan Lewis, otherwise I wouldn't object to drafting a guy Like Rhodes who figures to be available. I personally have not seen a DB who has shown me more than Vaccaro, regardless of draft position.

But yeah, I don't think anyone will care where we pick anybody years from now, as long as they get the job done.

AllSaints · 04-12-2013, 07:19 AM

I just think the kid is going to be a beast of a player ala ed reed .... I would hate to see us pass up on him...

hagan714 · 04-12-2013, 10:13 AM

i have as great trade down bait if he falls to us

Rugby Saint II · 04-12-2013, 01:16 PM

I've soured on him a little bit lately. He seems like he will be good but what we need in the secondary is an immediate play maker like Sharper. Trade down if possible if that is my only other option.

blackangold · 04-12-2013, 02:33 PM

would rather have

The Supreme Jonathan Cyprien Highlights - YouTube

Could be a great SS... wouldn't mind any of the top 3 Safeties

Seer1 · 04-12-2013, 09:46 PM

How much dead money is tied to Harper if we hold onto him this year and cut him the next?

Danno · 04-13-2013, 09:30 AM

Originally Posted by Seer1

How much dead money is tied to Harper if we hold onto him this year and cut him the next?

2014 - 1.9 million in dead money.

Base salary, 6.0 million
Cap hit, 7.9 million

Cut would free up 4 million.

04-12-2013, 07:05 AM	#2
TreyThomas Registered Join Date: Jul 2011 Posts: 82	Re: Kenny Vaccaro Originally Posted by burningmetal I don't see why some believe Vaccaro would be a reach. Based on what? There are other players who I'd gladly take, as well, but if we draft this guy I will not be one bit upset. Whether or not he turns out to be the second coming of Reed, Sharper or Polamalu is not something you can predict. You draft the best player at whatever position you're looking to address, and whatever happens, happens. I challenge anyone to present evidence that there is a better safety, or DB in general, in this class. And also, we DID pick Malcolm Jenkins at pick #14. A cornerback. Would be nice to draft a true safety to meet our need. Vaccaro fills a position of need and he's the best safety in the draft. Why the hell not??? And I mean really, we HAVE to score big on a first round pick sometime soon, right? This is the year! Rell&Gold likes this.
TreyThomas Registered Join Date: Jul 2011 Posts: 82

04-12-2013, 08:00 AM	#3
Danno Truth Addict Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: Spanish Fort, AL (via NO and B/R) Posts: 24,758	Re: Kenny Vaccaro Originally Posted by burningmetal I don't see why some believe Vaccaro would be a reach. Based on what? There are other players who I'd gladly take, as well, but if we draft this guy I will not be one bit upset. Whether or not he turns out to be the second coming of Reed, Sharper or Polamalu is not something you can predict. You draft the best player at whatever position you're looking to address, and whatever happens, happens. I challenge anyone to present evidence that there is a better safety, or DB in general, in this class. Dee Milliner and Xavier Rhodes, but I see your point. Two years from now will anyone really care if Vacarro was picked 15th, instead of around 20th, where the "so called" experts projected him? I think there are probably better choices at 15, but I wouldn't cry about it if we picked him. I think he's gonna be a good player. I'd prefer one of the top DE/DT/OLB or WR's, but he'd be a good pick for us.

04-12-2013, 08:26 AM	#4
burningmetal 1000 Posts + Join Date: Mar 2012 Posts: 3,923 Blog Entries: 3	Re: Kenny Vaccaro Originally Posted by Danno Dee Milliner and Xavier Rhodes, but I see your point. Two years from now will anyone really care if Vacarro was picked 15th, instead of around 20th, where the "so called" experts projected him? I think there are probably better choices at 15, but I wouldn't cry about it if we picked him. I think he's gonna be a good player. I'd prefer one of the top DE/DT/OLB or WR's, but he'd be a good pick for us. Yeah, I'd like to have Jarvis Jones or the less experienced -but incredibly talented- Ezekiel Ansah, because I'm really itching for a pass rush. But I'm starting to think neither of them (especially Jones) will be there. So In my opinion, Vaccaro stands as the next greatest impact player at a position of need for us. Milliner and Rhodes are good cover guys, but I like the package of cover ability and top-tier tackling skills of Vaccaro. Plus, we've already invested in a corner with Keenan Lewis, otherwise I wouldn't object to drafting a guy Like Rhodes who figures to be available. I personally have not seen a DB who has shown me more than Vaccaro, regardless of draft position. But yeah, I don't think anyone will care where we pick anybody years from now, as long as they get the job done.
	If I had a nickel for every time I heard that, the NFL would fine and suspend me.

04-12-2013, 07:19 AM	#5
AllSaints Breakin Records Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: Deville, Louisiana Posts: 2,167	Re: Kenny Vaccaro I just think the kid is going to be a beast of a player ala ed reed .... I would hate to see us pass up on him...

04-12-2013, 10:13 AM	#6
hagan714 LB Mentallity Join Date: Dec 2005 Posts: 15,870 Blog Entries: 68	Re: Kenny Vaccaro i have as great trade down bait if he falls to us

04-12-2013, 05:12 AM	#1
burningmetal 1000 Posts + Join Date: Mar 2012 Posts: 3,923 Blog Entries: 3	Re: Kenny Vaccaro I don't see why some believe Vaccaro would be a reach. Based on what? There are other players who I'd gladly take, as well, but if we draft this guy I will not be one bit upset. Whether or not he turns out to be the second coming of Reed, Sharper or Polamalu is not something you can predict. You draft the best player at whatever position you're looking to address, and whatever happens, happens. I challenge anyone to present evidence that there is a better safety, or DB in general, in this class. frydaddy, Rell&Gold and K Major like this.

04-12-2013, 01:16 PM	#7
Rugby Saint II Bounty Money $$$ Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: 5800 Airline Dr. Metairie, LA. Posts: 24,166	Re: Kenny Vaccaro I've soured on him a little bit lately. He seems like he will be good but what we need in the secondary is an immediate play maker like Sharper. Trade down if possible if that is my only other option.

04-12-2013, 09:46 PM	#9
Seer1 Site Donor Join Date: Apr 2010 Location: Bayou Bayfield CO Posts: 4,722	Re: Kenny Vaccaro How much dead money is tied to Harper if we hold onto him this year and cut him the next?

04-13-2013, 09:30 AM	#10
Danno Truth Addict Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: Spanish Fort, AL (via NO and B/R) Posts: 24,758	Re: Kenny Vaccaro Originally Posted by Seer1 How much dead money is tied to Harper if we hold onto him this year and cut him the next? 2014 - 1.9 million in dead money. Base salary, 6.0 million Cap hit, 7.9 million Cut would free up 4 million.

LinkBacks (?) LinkBack to this Thread: https://blackandgold.com/saints/56976-kenny-vaccaro.html
Posted By	For	Type	Date	Hits
Kenny Vaccaro	This thread	Refback	04-12-2013 05:20 AM	50
The Latest New Orleans Saints News \| SportSpyder	This thread	Refback	04-11-2013 08:00 PM	7