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this is a discussion within the Saints Community Forum; Originally Posted by Danno Great question and the guys on NFL radio addressed this the other day... History has shown that there's an entire round difference when you include the following year's draft. ie... If you give someone your 3rd ...
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Re: The Trade Back
Thank you sir
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Haha! Here are bunch of crazed fans arguing this out incessantly. Can you imagine what's going on in the team's draft strategy meetings? Wonder if they have to order new furniture and such after the draft's over.
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1. What/Who do we have that someone else wants? (Be specific)
Aside from our #15 pick, frankly not much. The thought of adding a body to improve our return is minimal. But people may want the #15 spot depending who falls. I don't think anyone is targeting us as a position they need to get into now. That will happen if someone else leapfrogs and disrupts the predicted dispersement of picks or causes someone to unexpectedly fall. Any trade down we make would be a reactionary one. 2. What/Who is in the draft that a team needs to trade up for? (Be specific) Again, depends on how it plays out. Austin could be a desired guy. There is a plethora of pass rush ends and linebackers who might be targeted by teams. If say an OG like Jonathan Cooper falls to us may Chicago, Dallas or the Giants try to leap over each other? Maybe Cinncinnati needs to get into a WR position over St. Louis or Pittsburgh and will give up their late 2 to move from 21. 3. Why do the Saints value latter round picks more than other teams? This is important because all deals favor the party with leverage. Knowing the want/need of both parties is huge leverage. Present a scenario where you would offer another team a trade that they would accept for a 1st round pick. See above at #2 for a few possible scenarios. I think we value moving down because we are short picks this year and there are teams who have some and need quality over quantity and can see the value of moving up. As said, this draft has depth at many positions and I think alot of 2nd round guys don't grade much lower than some 1sts. This draft is short of A+ and A players and deeper in B+ and B guys than normal. Come draft day I think we are in a weird spot. Our needs don't necessarily expect to be there for us and the need options may not be valued right there so a trade down is open. I think Payton and Loomis will fully play the bluff that we have 3-4 targeted guys who will all be there, a danger we will step on someone's hope because we too have so many need positions and a history of taking BPA. We aren't a team scared of drafting at a position we don't really need and that may make other GM's take our bluff. |
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Re: The Trade Back
Jimmy Johnson, former Dallas Head Coach, and probably a better talent evaluator and GM than Coach traded down often and won three (3) Superbowls...
It's all relative... We have the most prolific passing game in NFL history; a dynamic, diversified stable of running backs, and an effective offensive line scheme... What we are missing is above-average, supporting cast, defensive talent that can slow the opposite and create a +2 turnover margin... |
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Re: The Trade Back
Originally Posted by homerj07
+1. It will be very intriguing to see how this plays out and who lands where, trade down and what not etc.![]()
Boy, draft day can't come soon enough. |
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There are some good scenarios.........but no matter what we come up with the FO will find something to make us scratch our heads.
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Re: The Trade Back
This years draft is deep at several positions that we have needs. The level of talent is not very different in the 15-30 range and players at the top of the second round are very close in value to the bottom of the first. This is the type of draft where 2nd rd picks are valuable. I hope some team falls in love with a player and trades up. This draft is going to be crazy players in the top five could very easily fall.
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Re: The Trade Back
Seems like everyone wants to trade down this year.
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