The Trade Back

Shoe. · 04-12-2013, 06:24 PM

Originally Posted by Danno

Great question and the guys on NFL radio addressed this the other day...

History has shown that there's an entire round difference when you include the following year's draft.

ie...

If you give someone your 3rd rounder this year, you'll get their 2nd rounder next year.

Thank you sir

jeanpierre · 04-12-2013, 06:51 PM

Jimmy Johnson, former Dallas Head Coach, and probably a better talent evaluator and GM than Coach traded down often and won three (3) Superbowls...

It's all relative...

We have the most prolific passing game in NFL history; a dynamic, diversified stable of running backs, and an effective offensive line scheme...

What we are missing is above-average, supporting cast, defensive talent that can slow the opposite and create a +2 turnover margin...

jcp026 · 04-12-2013, 07:19 PM

Originally Posted by TheOak

So your willing to make the 49ers a better team so we can get lower draft choices? See, there is the other hitch... Are you willing to give a rival and someone you could possibly face in the NFC Championship game a leg up?

I will leave you with these teams that traded down and could probably choke them selves for it now:

Chargers traded away Eli Manning
Rams trade away Bettis
New England traded away Jerry Rice
Colts traded away Marshall Faulk
Seahawks traded away Dorsett
Falcons swapped with Chargers to Got Vick instead of Tomlinson

I'm interested in making us better at the expense of making the 49ers better.

alleycat_126 · 04-12-2013, 10:13 PM

Originally Posted by zoltar26

We need to sell teams on the idea of being interested on Austin or Patterson to try and make the Rams or Vikings want to bite if they are there at 15. Which at least one of them will be.

I love this idea!!! Why because both teams have multiple first round picks and are talents starved. This is a no brainer that we pit both teams against each other for Austin services. Hell one of them might be interested enough to fork over both of the first rounders in there possession!!!

homerj07 · 04-13-2013, 01:23 AM

Impossible to answer. We have to wait & see what happens on Draft Day. What trades are made before us & who is gone.
Trading down is a definite option

Rugby Saint II · 04-15-2013, 03:31 PM

There are some good scenarios.........but no matter what we come up with the FO will find something to make us scratch our heads.

triman · 04-15-2013, 04:19 PM

This years draft is deep at several positions that we have needs. The level of talent is not very different in the 15-30 range and players at the top of the second round are very close in value to the bottom of the first. This is the type of draft where 2nd rd picks are valuable. I hope some team falls in love with a player and trades up. This draft is going to be crazy players in the top five could very easily fall.

K Major · 04-15-2013, 04:53 PM

Originally Posted by homerj07

Impossible to answer. We have to wait & see what happens on Draft Day. What trades are made before us & who is gone.
Trading down is a definite option

+1. It will be very intriguing to see how this plays out and who lands where, trade down and what not etc.

Boy, draft day can't come soon enough.

Seer1 · 04-15-2013, 06:32 PM

Seems like everyone wants to trade down this year.

04-12-2013, 06:24 PM	#21
Shoe. 500th Post Join Date: Nov 2011 Location: Hub City Posts: 576	Re: The Trade Back Originally Posted by Danno Great question and the guys on NFL radio addressed this the other day... History has shown that there's an entire round difference when you include the following year's draft. ie... If you give someone your 3rd rounder this year, you'll get their 2nd rounder next year. Thank you sir

04-12-2013, 06:51 PM	#22
jeanpierre Site Donor 2018 Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Thibodaux Posts: 43,543 Blog Entries: 39	Re: The Trade Back Jimmy Johnson, former Dallas Head Coach, and probably a better talent evaluator and GM than Coach traded down often and won three (3) Superbowls... It's all relative... We have the most prolific passing game in NFL history; a dynamic, diversified stable of running backs, and an effective offensive line scheme... What we are missing is above-average, supporting cast, defensive talent that can slow the opposite and create a +2 turnover margin...

04-12-2013, 07:19 PM	#23
jcp026 500th Post Join Date: Mar 2010 Posts: 951	Re: The Trade Back Originally Posted by TheOak So your willing to make the 49ers a better team so we can get lower draft choices? See, there is the other hitch... Are you willing to give a rival and someone you could possibly face in the NFC Championship game a leg up? I will leave you with these teams that traded down and could probably choke them selves for it now: Chargers traded away Eli Manning Rams trade away Bettis New England traded away Jerry Rice Colts traded away Marshall Faulk Seahawks traded away Dorsett Falcons swapped with Chargers to Got Vick instead of Tomlinson I'm interested in making us better at the expense of making the 49ers better.
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04-12-2013, 10:13 PM	#24
alleycat_126 1000 Posts + Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Katy, Tx a suburb of Houston Posts: 2,089	Re: The Trade Back Originally Posted by zoltar26 We need to sell teams on the idea of being interested on Austin or Patterson to try and make the Rams or Vikings want to bite if they are there at 15. Which at least one of them will be. I love this idea!!! Why because both teams have multiple first round picks and are talents starved. This is a no brainer that we pit both teams against each other for Austin services. Hell one of them might be interested enough to fork over both of the first rounders in there possession!!! jcp026 likes this.

04-13-2013, 01:23 AM	#25
homerj07 In Doh We Trust Join Date: Sep 2009 Location: Central Florida Posts: 7,027 Blog Entries: 16	Re: The Trade Back Impossible to answer. We have to wait & see what happens on Draft Day. What trades are made before us & who is gone. Trading down is a definite option K Major likes this.

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Rugby Saint II Bounty Money $$$ Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: 5800 Airline Dr. Metairie, LA. Posts: 24,073	Re: The Trade Back There are some good scenarios.........but no matter what we come up with the FO will find something to make us scratch our heads.

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triman 500th Post Join Date: Mar 2003 Posts: 783	Re: The Trade Back This years draft is deep at several positions that we have needs. The level of talent is not very different in the 15-30 range and players at the top of the second round are very close in value to the bottom of the first. This is the type of draft where 2nd rd picks are valuable. I hope some team falls in love with a player and trades up. This draft is going to be crazy players in the top five could very easily fall.
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04-15-2013, 04:53 PM	#28
K Major Site Donor 2019 Join Date: Jan 2013 Location: Bedford, TX Posts: 24,622 Blog Entries: 3	Re: The Trade Back Originally Posted by homerj07 Impossible to answer. We have to wait & see what happens on Draft Day. What trades are made before us & who is gone. Trading down is a definite option +1. It will be very intriguing to see how this plays out and who lands where, trade down and what not etc. Boy, draft day can't come soon enough.

04-15-2013, 06:32 PM	#29
Seer1 Site Donor Join Date: Apr 2010 Location: Bayou Bayfield CO Posts: 4,722	Re: The Trade Back Seems like everyone wants to trade down this year.

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