Training Camp Battles

Danno · 04-12-2013, 03:48 PM

Originally Posted by The Dude

These players have the exact same amount of talent they had last year, not taking into the equation that they progress due to experience. Like you said the scheme has changed, not the talent.

Well using that philosophy the only talent changes will be via free-agent signings.

With the additions of Lewis, Butler, Coleman and Leonhard there are probably 30 teams that haven't improved as much talent wise as we have so I'm not getting your point.

NonieT · 04-12-2013, 07:06 PM

The RT tackle spot. Man I hope someone can outplay Streif.

Luda34 · 04-15-2013, 11:47 PM

Brees and Wallace

SaintnDE · 04-16-2013, 05:38 AM

Originally Posted by Luda34

Brees and Wallace

silly, silly man!

Seer1 · 04-16-2013, 07:19 AM

Originally Posted by Luda34

Brees and Wallace

Haha, don't forget McKown's in the mix too! Seriously though, I like that Coleman's name was mentioned. Don't be too quick to discount his rather large presence when talking about the front four -oops three.

kannon315 · 04-16-2013, 09:35 AM

Battles I'll be watching
Defense
#2 CB Greer vs. Robinson
DE Smith vs. Coleman vs. Hicks
NT Bunkley vs. Hicks
#2 ILB Hawthorne vs. Vilma
OLB Butler vs. Wilson vs. Gallette

Offense
#3 WR Toon vs. Morgan
OT Smith vs. Brown
#2 QB Wallace vs. McCown

All that before the draft! Should be interesting!

foreverfan · 04-16-2013, 10:39 AM

I'll leave position competition up to Payton.... It's the off-season, so I'm studying the cheerleader competitions.

SaintsBro · 04-16-2013, 11:10 AM

I want to see some pressure put on Garrett Hartley in camp. I think Jason Hanson could be a great addition, to fill that Carney/Kasay role of kicker-waiting-on-the-couch to come in, when Hartley screws up, and have him either jump in and take over or else coach him up a little bit. Hanson would be ideal for that "pushing him and mentoring" role, like Carney did when Hartley was actually kicking his best.

TheGambler · 04-16-2013, 01:22 PM

Originally Posted by SaintsBro

I want to see some pressure put on Garrett Hartley in camp. I think Jason Hanson could be a great addition, to fill that Carney/Kasay role of kicker-waiting-on-the-couch to come in, when Hartley screws up, and have him either jump in and take over or else coach him up a little bit. Hanson would be ideal for that "pushing him and mentoring" role, like Carney did when Hartley was actually kicking his best.

You're aware that Jason Hason retired, right? And stated that he's had heel problems.

SaintsBro · 04-16-2013, 01:53 PM

Originally Posted by TheGambler

You're aware that Jason Hason retired, right? And stated that he's had heel problems.

Did not know about the heel problems. I knew he'd retired, but figured that retired kickers (without heel problems) can un-retire pretty quick if they get a call with the right offer, while they're on the couch. The reason I liked him was because, other than the emo freakshow of Hartley, Payton does tend to like older kickers, there is some precedent there.

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Danno Site Donor 2014 Truth Addict Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: Spanish Fort, AL (via NO and B/R) Posts: 24,640	Re: Training Camp Battles Originally Posted by The Dude These players have the exact same amount of talent they had last year, not taking into the equation that they progress due to experience. Like you said the scheme has changed, not the talent. Well using that philosophy the only talent changes will be via free-agent signings. With the additions of Lewis, Butler, Coleman and Leonhard there are probably 30 teams that haven't improved as much talent wise as we have so I'm not getting your point.

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NonieT 500th Post Join Date: Jun 2012 Posts: 921	Re: Training Camp Battles The RT tackle spot. Man I hope someone can outplay Streif. Danno likes this.
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SaintnDE 100th Post Join Date: Sep 2012 Posts: 443	Re: Training Camp Battles Originally Posted by Luda34 Brees and Wallace silly, silly man!
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Seer1 Site Donor Join Date: Apr 2010 Location: Bayou Bayfield CO Posts: 4,722	Re: Training Camp Battles Originally Posted by Luda34 Brees and Wallace Haha, don't forget McKown's in the mix too! Seriously though, I like that Coleman's name was mentioned. Don't be too quick to discount his rather large presence when talking about the front four -oops three.

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kannon315 Registered Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: N.O.LA baby all day Posts: 66	Re: Training Camp Battles Battles I'll be watching Defense #2 CB Greer vs. Robinson DE Smith vs. Coleman vs. Hicks NT Bunkley vs. Hicks #2 ILB Hawthorne vs. Vilma OLB Butler vs. Wilson vs. Gallette Offense #3 WR Toon vs. Morgan OT Smith vs. Brown #2 QB Wallace vs. McCown All that before the draft! Should be interesting! Rugby Saint II and Rell&Gold like this.

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foreverfan 12,000 BS Posts Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Metairie, LA Posts: 13,457 Blog Entries: 5	Re: Training Camp Battles I'll leave position competition up to Payton.... It's the off-season, so I'm studying the cheerleader competitions. homerj07, Rugby Saint II and Joker like this.

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SaintsBro Site Donor Join Date: Sep 2010 Location: in line with my ridiculous CLEAR PLASTIC BAG Posts: 3,650 Blog Entries: 3	Re: Training Camp Battles I want to see some pressure put on Garrett Hartley in camp. I think Jason Hanson could be a great addition, to fill that Carney/Kasay role of kicker-waiting-on-the-couch to come in, when Hartley screws up, and have him either jump in and take over or else coach him up a little bit. Hanson would be ideal for that "pushing him and mentoring" role, like Carney did when Hartley was actually kicking his best.

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TheGambler 500th Post Join Date: Jul 2005 Posts: 610	Re: Training Camp Battles Originally Posted by SaintsBro I want to see some pressure put on Garrett Hartley in camp. I think Jason Hanson could be a great addition, to fill that Carney/Kasay role of kicker-waiting-on-the-couch to come in, when Hartley screws up, and have him either jump in and take over or else coach him up a little bit. Hanson would be ideal for that "pushing him and mentoring" role, like Carney did when Hartley was actually kicking his best. You're aware that Jason Hason retired, right? And stated that he's had heel problems.
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04-16-2013, 01:53 PM	#20
SaintsBro Site Donor Join Date: Sep 2010 Location: in line with my ridiculous CLEAR PLASTIC BAG Posts: 3,650 Blog Entries: 3	Re: Training Camp Battles Originally Posted by TheGambler You're aware that Jason Hason retired, right? And stated that he's had heel problems. Did not know about the heel problems. I knew he'd retired, but figured that retired kickers (without heel problems) can un-retire pretty quick if they get a call with the right offer, while they're on the couch. The reason I liked him was because, other than the emo freakshow of Hartley, Payton does tend to like older kickers, there is some precedent there.

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