Experience In A 3-4?

Rugby Saint II · 04-19-2013, 04:20 PM

I konow Cam Jordan has experience in a 3-4 and I think Bunkley has played it too. Butler will have played it under RR as well as Coleman. Does Martez Wilson have experince in the 3-4?
The reason I ask is I would like to get a feel for our timing in the transition from the 4-3 to a 3-4. We play a good offense with a new running game when we kick off the season against Atlanta. Apparently the secondary doesn't require as much time with the transition since we will probably be running man with our corners.jmho
Atlanta will probably score points but we need to be able to slow them down defensively.
Can RR install his version of the 3-4 in one off season?

dizzle88 · 04-19-2013, 04:35 PM

Martez has experience in the 3-4 however......he was the middle backer in the 3-4 at college and now he'll be pass rushing outside, I cant wait to see the battle between Martez, Junior and Butler for snaps at OLB

Seer1 · 04-19-2013, 06:58 PM

Is this a 3-4 thread or a playing the clowns thread?

It sounds like even saying 3-4 isn't that simple. From what I'm hearing, Rob's 3-4 almost leans to a hybrid kind of 4-3 at times. That should make things a little easier for most of our guys who haven't played a 3-4 yet -unless we re-sign Ellis or Shanle. We are pulling in some players who have experience with it too to help mentor.

If you're talkin' about playin' the clowns, we still have our secret weapon -half time. Smith can't seem to make adjustments for crap.

Danno · 04-19-2013, 07:12 PM

Most of these guys have played some version of a 3-4 nearly every year they've been in the league.

Spags ran an occasional 3-4 set and Williams ran a ton of it.

I think Payton noticed our best athletes played their best ball when we were in 3-4 sets, so it was probably a pretty easy decision to convert to the 3-4 as our base.

I'd imagine we'll still run some 4-3 this year too.

I can't help but wonder if signing/drafting players like Galette, Wilson, Bunkley, Hicks, Jordan were part of the plan to eventually convert to a 3-4 all along.

Rugby Saint II · 04-19-2013, 08:06 PM

Originally Posted by Danno

Most of these guys have played some version of a 3-4 nearly every year they've been in the league.

Spags ran an occasional 3-4 set and Williams ran a ton of it.

I think Payton noticed our best athletes played their best ball when we were in 3-4 sets, so it was probably a pretty easy decision to convert to the 3-4 as our base.

I'd imagine we'll still run some 4-3 this year too.

I can't help but wonder if signing/drafting players like Galette, Wilson, Bunkley, Hicks, Jordan were part of the plan to eventually convert to a 3-4 all along.

I've wondered the same thing.......but then why would they hire a 4-3 coach last year?

Danno · 04-19-2013, 08:18 PM

Originally Posted by Rugby Saint II

I've wondered the same thing.......but then why would they hire a 4-3 coach last year?

I have no earthly idea Dale. Maybe because several of our respected veterans were best suited for a 4-3?

Vilma, Ellis, and Smith are all 4-3 players to a T. Maybe they thought that 2012 would be their last shot? After all Hicks would make a great 4-3 DT (3-tech) and maybe Spags could elevate Ellis' game, and Vilma played better in a 4-3 and...

Hell, I don't friggin know.

I thought it was a good idea too at first.

I'd love to hear Payton explain why he thought it was a good idea.

hagan714 · 04-19-2013, 08:21 PM

it will be fun to watch how it all unfolds on the field

anything better than 32 is an improvement

homerj07 · 04-19-2013, 08:29 PM

Originally Posted by hagan714

it will be fun to watch how it all unfolds on the field

anything better than 32 is an improvement

Well anything below 25 will be disastorous

Seer1 · 04-19-2013, 10:24 PM

Originally Posted by homerj07

Well anything below 25 will be disastorous

The spen hacks have us going 8-8 this year. I say we make the playoffs 28 or better.

We don't do crap once we get there, but we get there.

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04-19-2013, 04:35 PM	#2
dizzle88 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Oct 2009 Posts: 11,208	Re: Experience In A 3-4? Martez has experience in the 3-4 however......he was the middle backer in the 3-4 at college and now he'll be pass rushing outside, I cant wait to see the battle between Martez, Junior and Butler for snaps at OLB

04-19-2013, 06:58 PM	#3
Seer1 Site Donor Join Date: Apr 2010 Location: Bayou Bayfield CO Posts: 4,722	Re: Experience In A 3-4? Is this a 3-4 thread or a playing the clowns thread? It sounds like even saying 3-4 isn't that simple. From what I'm hearing, Rob's 3-4 almost leans to a hybrid kind of 4-3 at times. That should make things a little easier for most of our guys who haven't played a 3-4 yet -unless we re-sign Ellis or Shanle. We are pulling in some players who have experience with it too to help mentor. If you're talkin' about playin' the clowns, we still have our secret weapon -half time. Smith can't seem to make adjustments for crap.
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04-19-2013, 07:12 PM	#4
Danno Truth Addict Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: Spanish Fort, AL (via NO and B/R) Posts: 24,720	Re: Experience In A 3-4? Most of these guys have played some version of a 3-4 nearly every year they've been in the league. Spags ran an occasional 3-4 set and Williams ran a ton of it. I think Payton noticed our best athletes played their best ball when we were in 3-4 sets, so it was probably a pretty easy decision to convert to the 3-4 as our base. I'd imagine we'll still run some 4-3 this year too. I can't help but wonder if signing/drafting players like Galette, Wilson, Bunkley, Hicks, Jordan were part of the plan to eventually convert to a 3-4 all along.

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Rugby Saint II Bounty Money $$$ Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: 5800 Airline Dr. Metairie, LA. Posts: 24,052	Re: Experience In A 3-4? Originally Posted by Danno Most of these guys have played some version of a 3-4 nearly every year they've been in the league. Spags ran an occasional 3-4 set and Williams ran a ton of it. I think Payton noticed our best athletes played their best ball when we were in 3-4 sets, so it was probably a pretty easy decision to convert to the 3-4 as our base. I'd imagine we'll still run some 4-3 this year too. I can't help but wonder if signing/drafting players like Galette, Wilson, Bunkley, Hicks, Jordan were part of the plan to eventually convert to a 3-4 all along. I've wondered the same thing.......but then why would they hire a 4-3 coach last year?

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Danno Truth Addict Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: Spanish Fort, AL (via NO and B/R) Posts: 24,720	Re: Experience In A 3-4? Originally Posted by Rugby Saint II I've wondered the same thing.......but then why would they hire a 4-3 coach last year? I have no earthly idea Dale. Maybe because several of our respected veterans were best suited for a 4-3? Vilma, Ellis, and Smith are all 4-3 players to a T. Maybe they thought that 2012 would be their last shot? After all Hicks would make a great 4-3 DT (3-tech) and maybe Spags could elevate Ellis' game, and Vilma played better in a 4-3 and... Hell, I don't friggin know. I thought it was a good idea too at first. I'd love to hear Payton explain why he thought it was a good idea. Rugby Saint II likes this.

04-19-2013, 08:21 PM	#7
hagan714 LB Mentallity Join Date: Dec 2005 Posts: 15,870 Blog Entries: 68	Re: Experience In A 3-4? it will be fun to watch how it all unfolds on the field anything better than 32 is an improvement homerj07 likes this.

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homerj07 In Doh We Trust Join Date: Sep 2009 Location: Central Florida Posts: 7,027 Blog Entries: 16	Re: Experience In A 3-4? Originally Posted by hagan714 it will be fun to watch how it all unfolds on the field anything better than 32 is an improvement Well anything below 25 will be disastorous

04-19-2013, 10:24 PM	#9
Seer1 Site Donor Join Date: Apr 2010 Location: Bayou Bayfield CO Posts: 4,722	Re: Experience In A 3-4? Originally Posted by homerj07 Well anything below 25 will be disastorous The spen hacks have us going 8-8 this year. I say we make the playoffs 28 or better. We don't do crap once we get there, but we get there.

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