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Danno 04-26-2013 08:49 PM

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Originally Posted by hagan714 (Post 498160)
i swear it the freaking commish behind this

I think its just too complicated for the busy networks to unravel. Its a flippin 4 way trade, 1 player and 3 picks.

rmgoris11 04-26-2013 08:49 PM

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Bye bye ivory

voodooido 04-26-2013 08:49 PM

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OK, we gave up both rd 4's for the 3rd. One rd 4 was the Jets

voodooido 04-26-2013 08:50 PM

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2013 NFL Draft Results and Analysis: Round 4 - National Football League - ESPN

lets ya kinda know about the trade here.

SmashMouth 04-26-2013 08:50 PM

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Good trade IMHO

FinSaint 04-26-2013 08:50 PM

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I'm OK with that trade - seems to be good value.

Danno 04-26-2013 08:51 PM

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Originally Posted by SmashMouth (Post 498172)
Good trade IMHO

Agreed, Massive DT and a LT of the future for 3 picks.

I like it.

TheOak 04-26-2013 08:51 PM

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Draft or Drambuie..... One is making me feel better.

lee909 04-26-2013 08:51 PM

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I wonder if Bunkley is on the chopping block

lsutigerfan 04-26-2013 08:52 PM

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Saints traded pick 106 and 109 to move up into the 3rd

lee909 04-26-2013 08:52 PM

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Bunkley might get us back into a late third 4th rounder
i cant belive Okafor is still there

SmashMouth 04-26-2013 08:52 PM

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Originally Posted by lee909 (Post 498177)
I wonder if Bunkley is on the chopping block

Nope... Need him in the rotation.

lumm0x 04-26-2013 08:53 PM

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Definitely need to keep Bunk.

FinSaint 04-26-2013 08:53 PM

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Originally Posted by lee909 (Post 498177)
I wonder if Bunkley is on the chopping block


No, Jenkins is a different type of DT/NT and they need the change of pace between the two.

One of the weaknesses listed on DraftScout was that Jenkins gets tired fairly quickly when forced to take too many snaps, so he'll need the constant rotation to really be effective.

jcp026 04-26-2013 08:53 PM

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Good luck to Ivory with NYJ. They're going to have to lean heavily on him and he's going to get beat up.

lee909 04-26-2013 08:54 PM

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I know we need depth but the coaches where talking about Hicks playing NT.

Danno 04-26-2013 08:54 PM

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Originally Posted by FinSaint (Post 498184)
No, Jenkins is a different type of DT/NT and they need the change of pace between the two.

One of the weaknesses listed on DraftScout was that Jenkins gets tired fairly quickly when forced to take too many snaps, so he'll need the constant rotation to really be effective.

And as someone said above, he's got his weight down to a svelte 330 lbs.

QBREES9 04-26-2013 08:54 PM

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Good luck Chris

TheOak 04-26-2013 08:55 PM

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From Miami, via Chicago, ivory, 4th.


I'm soooooo confused

alleycat_126 04-26-2013 08:55 PM

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Sorry drew gave it away Chris, we'll miss you...

Rsanders24 04-26-2013 08:55 PM

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Good luck Chris....going to miss that bruising running style!

QBREES9 04-26-2013 08:56 PM

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Good Luck In NYC

xan 04-26-2013 08:56 PM

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I'm totally digging this Draft. So far so good. Now if we can get an olb it will be perfect

Boutte 04-26-2013 08:56 PM

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Jenkins wasn't rated very highly at the sites I checked.

QBREES9 04-26-2013 08:57 PM

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Dose anyone know how many more pick we have

alleycat_126 04-26-2013 08:57 PM

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Chris Ivory - New York Jets - 2013 Player Profile - Rotoworld.com

FinSaint 04-26-2013 08:57 PM

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What time does the coverage start tomorrow EST?

hagan714 04-26-2013 08:57 PM

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with the talent dropping and all the NT still on the board it was not a smart move for two fourths. so far i am not happy with our DC in round 1 and now in round 3. stupid stupid stupid

grrrrrrrrrrrr

jcp026 04-26-2013 08:57 PM

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Originally Posted by QBREES9 (Post 498197)
Dose anyone know how many more pick we have

I think we have a 5th and 6th rounder left.

dafyaman 04-26-2013 08:57 PM

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For those of you who don't understand. Miami had a extra 4th rd pick from trading Brandon Marshall to the Bears. Then they gave that 4th to the Saints for Ivory giving the Saints two 4th round picks. The saints used both of those to trade back into the 3rd to get John Jenkins.

TheOak 04-26-2013 08:58 PM

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Originally Posted by Danno (Post 498187)
And as someone said above, he's got his weight down to a svelte 330 lbs.

Downright willowy.

QBREES9 04-26-2013 08:58 PM

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Thanks jcp026 and the jets fourth

FinSaint 04-26-2013 08:58 PM

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Originally Posted by Boutte (Post 498196)
Jenkins wasn't rated very highly at the sites I checked.


DraftScout had him as the 8th highest DT after Short.

jcp026 04-26-2013 08:59 PM

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Originally Posted by QBREES9 (Post 498206)
Thanks jcp026 and the jets fourth

I think we traded the Jets fourth already to get Jenkins.

lee909 04-26-2013 08:59 PM

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There goes Lemonier to 49ers

jlouhill 04-26-2013 08:59 PM

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LATEST NEWS

04/24/2013 - 2013 NFL DRAFT RANG'S GANG: DT: John Jenkins, Georgia, 6-4, 346, 5.23...Jenkins has been known to let his weight get out of control, but that is the only reason I can see as to why he won't prove to be a quality defender in the NFL. He is remarkably light on his feet for a man of his size and has excellent power. He's too wide to offer much as a pass-rusher but hustles. Perhaps most intriguing, he stood out in Georgia's biggest games, especially against Alabama, Florida and South Carolina. - Rob Rang, NFLDraftScout.com
•More John Jenkins News


Overview

Blessed with great size and surprising overall athleticism, it should come as no surprise that Jenkins was one of the more highly regarded junior college prospects in the country when he left Gulf Coast Community College in 2009. Despite being the focus of every opponents' blocking scheme, Jenkins recorded 41 tackles and two sacks while with GCCC and was recruited by virtually every program in the country.

Jenkins made an immediate impact in the middle for the Bulldogs, appearing in 14 games and earning seven starts. He registered 28 tackles, including six tackles for loss and three sacks. The highlight of his junior season -- recording an interception that appeared to put Georgia in position to win the Outback Bowl -- also served as a lowlight as he suffered a shoulder injury that sidelined him for the rest of the game. The Bulldogs, up 27-20 with 3:56 remaining and in possession of the football, would go on to lose in triple overtime.


Jenkins considered leaving for the NFL after just one season but ultimately elected to return for his senior campaign. While overshadowed by a number of high profile defenders on the Bulldogs' roster, he played a critical part in Georgia earning a trip to the SEC Championship Game, earning Second Team All-SEC honors (as voted by the coaches) with 50 tackles, two tackles for a loss and fumble recovery in 2012.


At his size, Jenkins isn't going to be counted on to provide much pressure on quarterbacks. His primary duty will be to clog up running lanes in the interior. He's quite good in this role and provides just enough of a threat to quarterbacks that he's likely to hear his name called in the first round of the 2013 NFL draft.


Analysis

STRENGTHS: Built like a Coke machine and is just as difficult to move. Has a wide frame with thick, strong limbs. Good strength and use of leverage (generally) to hold up to double-teams and create a pile. Surprisingly quick off the snap and can split gaps to destroy plays before they've even begun.


Good lateral agility, balance to slide laterally in pursuit of the ballcarrier to string out the play while fighting off blockers. Keeps his hands active, showing good effort, strength and technique to battle his ways towards the quarterback.


Good bull rusher. Can simply drive opponents backward. Locates the ball well and shows good effort to the flanks. Slips off of blocks to grab on and drag down ballcarriers attempting to slip past him. Very good strength for the drag-down tackle.


Versatile. Has lined up virtually all over the Georgia defensive line. Appears to possess long enough arms to potentially play the five-technique role, as well as at nose guard or defensive tackle.



WEAKNESSES: Provides little in terms of an interior pass rush. Is simply too wide to not get slowed down while squeezing through tight gaps in the interior line and has only phone booth quickness.


Wears down quickly and will need to be substituted often to be fully effective in the NFL. Allows his pad level to rise as he tires, which negates his strength.


COMPARES TO: B.J. Raji, NG, Green Bay Packers -- Like the former Boston College standout, Jenkins' mass and strength are the most obvious of his impressive physical characteristics, but surprisingly light feet and willingness to fight through blocks to provide some interior pass rush are attributes which could lead to a steady ascent as the draft approaches.


--Rob Rang

Rsanders24 04-26-2013 09:00 PM

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I hope this doesn't come back to hurt us. I believe that was too much to give up to pick a NT who should have still been there in the 4th or one that graded out close to Jenkins.

triman 04-26-2013 09:00 PM

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I am digging it. Top safety LT eventual starter that could star. NT that will be apart of a really great rotation. Great value and fills critical needs. Gil Brandt famous nfl scout wrote that both Armestead and Jenkins in his opinion would play in several pro bowls.

alleycat_126 04-26-2013 09:00 PM

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Originally Posted by Danno (Post 498175)
Agreed, Massive DT and a LT of the future for 3 picks.

I like it.

Don't forget about saving 2 million dollars as well !!!!!

Danno 04-26-2013 09:00 PM

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Originally Posted by Boutte (Post 498196)
Jenkins wasn't rated very highly at the sites I checked.

CBSSPORTS(DraftScout) had him a 2-3 round DT, 8th best DT on his board, compares to BJ Raji

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Analysis
STRENGTHS: Built like a Coke machine and is just as difficult to move. Has a wide frame with thick, strong limbs. Good strength and use of leverage (generally) to hold up to double-teams and create a pile. Surprisingly quick off the snap and can split gaps to destroy plays before they've even begun.

Good lateral agility, balance to slide laterally in pursuit of the ballcarrier to string out the play while fighting off blockers. Keeps his hands active, showing good effort, strength and technique to battle his ways towards the quarterback.

Good bull rusher. Can simply drive opponents backward. Locates the ball well and shows good effort to the flanks. Slips off of blocks to grab on and drag down ballcarriers attempting to slip past him. Very good strength for the drag-down tackle.

Versatile. Has lined up virtually all over the Georgia defensive line. Appears to possess long enough arms to potentially play the five-technique role, as well as at nose guard or defensive tackle.

WEAKNESSES: Provides little in terms of an interior pass rush. Is simply too wide to not get slowed down while squeezing through tight gaps in the interior line and has only phone booth quickness.

Wears down quickly and will need to be substituted often to be fully effective in the NFL. Allows his pad level to rise as he tires, which negates his strength.

COMPARES TO: B.J. Raji, NG, Green Bay Packers -- Like the former Boston College standout, Jenkins' mass and strength are the most obvious of his impressive physical characteristics, but surprisingly light feet and willingness to fight through blocks to provide some interior pass rush are attributes which could lead to a steady ascent as the draft approaches.

--Rob Rang


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