New Orleans Saints pick Oklahoma receiver Kenny Stills in the fifth round

04-27-2013, 04:44 PM

Originally Posted by The Dude

Wearing a dress would make him a cross dresser, not gay.Believe it or not cross dressers are usually straight. Now he may be a gay cross dresser but either way is fine with me as long as he can catch.

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Seer1 · 04-27-2013, 04:55 PM

Again, it's Nawlons. Nobody cares what you're wearing underneath your pads. Regardless of what kind of pads those may be.

Rugby Saint II · 04-27-2013, 05:08 PM

Bye bye Devery.

K Major · 04-27-2013, 05:08 PM

Originally Posted by neugey

Oklahoma skill players are as pro-ready as they come. This was a really nice pick for the fifth round. My only concern is having too many receivers now with Toon and Stills added to who we already have.

Damn, I keep forgetting we drafted Toon last year.

homerj07 · 04-27-2013, 05:20 PM

WTF is with all the tattoos. Don't get me wrong a few here or there I get. But DAMN!! What is this kid an Oklahoma member of the Yakuza? (Check his hands is he missing a little finger?)

burningmetal · 04-28-2013, 04:05 AM

What's up with "Weaknesses" section saying he "doesn't appear to have elite speed"? He's not gonna come in and be the fastest player in the league or anything, but 4.38 is a weakness? Furthermore, he has the football speed, which is all that really matters.

I can't find an obvious weakness in any part of his game. He's not perfect, but who is? I'm only worried about his attitude. His attitude for playing the game is fine, but we don't need this guy to be a Pacman Jones off the field. He doesn't have great size, but we don't need him to.

lee909 · 04-28-2013, 04:13 AM

Originally Posted by Halo

Scouting reports are guesses at best. Some are just talent assessments. Wonder what the "scounting reports" were for:
Art Monk

Joe Montana

Jerry Rice

Brett Favre

Jimmy Graham

TE09
Jimmy Graham
TE Miami

6'6" Height
35" Arm Length
260LBS. Weight
10 5/8" Hands

Graham is a very raw tight end that left the basketball team to turn out for football in time for the 2009 season. He is extremely athletic and has a huge upside but still needs a ton of technique work from running routes to blocking. He is not restricted in his routes and shows a good burst coming out of his breaks to separate from defenders but at the same time struggles to get off the line vs. good press linebackers. He shows strength when going for the ball in a crowd as well as flashes of strength as a blocker but can be sloppy in his footwork when he needs to adjust on the move when blocking in space. He has received comparisons to Tony Gonzalez who played football and basketball at Cal but he is not as developed as Gonzalez was at the same stage. He still needs to shed the basketball work ethic he came with.
Analysis
Strengths
Graham has an outstanding combination of size and speed for the tight end position. A former basketball player, he shows impressive natural athleticism on the gridiron. Despite limited experience, he has capable hands to make a play in traffic. High-character guy. Possesses tremendous potential.
Weaknesses
Graham lacks game experience with only one year of football under his belt. At this time, work ethic as a pure football player needs to improve. His toughness is in question as he still carries the basketball player label. Blocking tenacity and overall technique need polish and refinement.

alexonfyre · 04-28-2013, 10:34 AM

Originally Posted by lee909

TE09
Jimmy Graham
TE Miami

6'6" Height
35" Arm Length
260LBS. Weight
10 5/8" Hands

Graham is a very raw tight end that left the basketball team to turn out for football in time for the 2009 season. He is extremely athletic and has a huge upside but still needs a ton of technique work from running routes to blocking. He is not restricted in his routes and shows a good burst coming out of his breaks to separate from defenders but at the same time struggles to get off the line vs. good press linebackers. He shows strength when going for the ball in a crowd as well as flashes of strength as a blocker but can be sloppy in his footwork when he needs to adjust on the move when blocking in space. He has received comparisons to Tony Gonzalez who played football and basketball at Cal but he is not as developed as Gonzalez was at the same stage. He still needs to shed the basketball work ethic he came with.
Analysis
Strengths
Graham has an outstanding combination of size and speed for the tight end position. A former basketball player, he shows impressive natural athleticism on the gridiron. Despite limited experience, he has capable hands to make a play in traffic. High-character guy. Possesses tremendous potential.
Weaknesses
Graham lacks game experience with only one year of football under his belt. At this time, work ethic as a pure football player needs to improve. His toughness is in question as he still carries the basketball player label. Blocking tenacity and overall technique need polish and refinement.

Yep, that's pretty much Jimmy. I've found scouting reports to be inaccurate when talking about players with the greatest intangibles, like QBs, but spot on with specific skill players, like most WRs and most defensive players in general.

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04-27-2013, 04:55 PM	#52
Seer1 Site Donor Join Date: Apr 2010 Location: Bayou Bayfield CO Posts: 4,722	Re: New Orleans Saints pick Oklahoma receiver Kenny Stills in the fifth round Again, it's Nawlons. Nobody cares what you're wearing underneath your pads. Regardless of what kind of pads those may be.

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04-27-2013, 05:08 PM	#54
K Major Site Donor 2019 Join Date: Jan 2013 Location: Bedford, TX Posts: 24,028 Blog Entries: 3	Re: New Orleans Saints pick Oklahoma receiver Kenny Stills in the fifth round Originally Posted by neugey Oklahoma skill players are as pro-ready as they come. This was a really nice pick for the fifth round. My only concern is having too many receivers now with Toon and Stills added to who we already have. Damn, I keep forgetting we drafted Toon last year.

04-27-2013, 05:20 PM	#55
homerj07 In Doh We Trust Join Date: Sep 2009 Location: Central Florida Posts: 7,027 Blog Entries: 16	Re: New Orleans Saints pick Oklahoma receiver Kenny Stills in the fifth round WTF is with all the tattoos. Don't get me wrong a few here or there I get. But DAMN!! What is this kid an Oklahoma member of the Yakuza? (Check his hands is he missing a little finger?)

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04-28-2013, 04:05 AM	#56
burningmetal 1000 Posts + Join Date: Mar 2012 Posts: 3,905 Blog Entries: 3	Re: New Orleans Saints pick Oklahoma receiver Kenny Stills in the fifth round What's up with "Weaknesses" section saying he "doesn't appear to have elite speed"? He's not gonna come in and be the fastest player in the league or anything, but 4.38 is a weakness? Furthermore, he has the football speed, which is all that really matters. I can't find an obvious weakness in any part of his game. He's not perfect, but who is? I'm only worried about his attitude. His attitude for playing the game is fine, but we don't need this guy to be a Pacman Jones off the field. He doesn't have great size, but we don't need him to.
	If I had a nickel for every time I heard that, the NFL would fine and suspend me.

04-28-2013, 04:13 AM	#57
lee909 Site Donor 2015 Join Date: Mar 2012 Location: Watford England Posts: 8,717 Blog Entries: 1	Re: New Orleans Saints pick Oklahoma receiver Kenny Stills in the fifth round Originally Posted by Halo Scouting reports are guesses at best. Some are just talent assessments. Wonder what the "scounting reports" were for: Art Monk Joe Montana Jerry Rice Brett Favre Jimmy Graham TE09 Jimmy Graham TE Miami 6'6" Height 35" Arm Length 260LBS. Weight 10 5/8" Hands Graham is a very raw tight end that left the basketball team to turn out for football in time for the 2009 season. He is extremely athletic and has a huge upside but still needs a ton of technique work from running routes to blocking. He is not restricted in his routes and shows a good burst coming out of his breaks to separate from defenders but at the same time struggles to get off the line vs. good press linebackers. He shows strength when going for the ball in a crowd as well as flashes of strength as a blocker but can be sloppy in his footwork when he needs to adjust on the move when blocking in space. He has received comparisons to Tony Gonzalez who played football and basketball at Cal but he is not as developed as Gonzalez was at the same stage. He still needs to shed the basketball work ethic he came with. Analysis Strengths Graham has an outstanding combination of size and speed for the tight end position. A former basketball player, he shows impressive natural athleticism on the gridiron. Despite limited experience, he has capable hands to make a play in traffic. High-character guy. Possesses tremendous potential. Weaknesses Graham lacks game experience with only one year of football under his belt. At this time, work ethic as a pure football player needs to improve. His toughness is in question as he still carries the basketball player label. Blocking tenacity and overall technique need polish and refinement.
	"Two receivers to the left, Garcon to the right. Manning in the shotgun, puts Collie in motion. Looks in his direction...it's picked off! It's picked off! It's Tracy Porter again! He's runnin' free! He's gonna go all the way!

04-28-2013, 10:34 AM	#58
alexonfyre Site Donor Join Date: Aug 2011 Location: Black Pearl University Posts: 799	Re: New Orleans Saints pick Oklahoma receiver Kenny Stills in the fifth round Originally Posted by lee909 TE09 Jimmy Graham TE Miami 6'6" Height 35" Arm Length 260LBS. Weight 10 5/8" Hands Graham is a very raw tight end that left the basketball team to turn out for football in time for the 2009 season. He is extremely athletic and has a huge upside but still needs a ton of technique work from running routes to blocking. He is not restricted in his routes and shows a good burst coming out of his breaks to separate from defenders but at the same time struggles to get off the line vs. good press linebackers. He shows strength when going for the ball in a crowd as well as flashes of strength as a blocker but can be sloppy in his footwork when he needs to adjust on the move when blocking in space. He has received comparisons to Tony Gonzalez who played football and basketball at Cal but he is not as developed as Gonzalez was at the same stage. He still needs to shed the basketball work ethic he came with. Analysis Strengths Graham has an outstanding combination of size and speed for the tight end position. A former basketball player, he shows impressive natural athleticism on the gridiron. Despite limited experience, he has capable hands to make a play in traffic. High-character guy. Possesses tremendous potential. Weaknesses Graham lacks game experience with only one year of football under his belt. At this time, work ethic as a pure football player needs to improve. His toughness is in question as he still carries the basketball player label. Blocking tenacity and overall technique need polish and refinement. Yep, that's pretty much Jimmy. I've found scouting reports to be inaccurate when talking about players with the greatest intangibles, like QBs, but spot on with specific skill players, like most WRs and most defensive players in general.

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