Kenny Stills vs Florida State

burningmetal · 04-29-2013, 04:17 AM

Originally Posted by alexonfyre

Here is everything I saw:

:25 - This is hard to say, If he was on the 15-yard out then he did it right and it was underthrown, if he should have been on the 10 yard out he adjusted his route too much and missed the ball.
1:28 - Has position on the DB, who walks right through him to deflect. No effort to box out, only attacks the ball with a single hand to deflect the interception.
1:36 - Not a great pass, but the ball is in his range. He loses track of the ball in the air, doesn't even come close to making a play.
3:05 - Replay shows that he adjusts his route after the ball is in the air, causing him to lose a step or two, that ball was over thrown, but he may have had a shot at it if he stayed on route and run through the DB.
3:32 - Just drops an easy TD
3:42 - Another straight up drop
3:48 - Once again unaware of ball position, despite being in position to challenge the DB for the ball, doesn't make any move, and leads to an interception.

Dude, I'm still confused as to what you're looking at on your end. He doesn't drop a TD, it was batted down, and never got close to his hands... horribly under thrown.

At 1:28, he is practically run over. You can't box a guy out who is running through you. It could have been interference. When I first saw that play I immediately said that was either interference, or the guy made a perfect play on the ball because it sure looked like he went right through him, just as you said... He's not a 260 pound power forward. NFL receivers routinely fail to make that catch.

At 1:36, I don't think he ever saw the ball. Looked like Jones panicked and just airmailed it. Stills was double covered and didn't turn his head till the ball was just past his head.

At 3:42, the defender got a hand in, so it wasn't a straight up drop. After watching it a couple times, I'll say that maybe he should have come back for the ball, but the qb needs to lead him. Usually you come back to the ball when your qb is on the run, but he was open and Jones was not under pressure. Ball has to be in front. But it's one he could have possibly had, I'll give you that.

I agree that the double move he made on one of the deep routes slowed him, but then maybe the double move is what got him open in the first place. That's not something we can conclusively say.

3:48, I can see what you're saying, but he's running a fly pattern at full speed and the ball is under thrown, again. It's not as easy as you might think to stop your momentum on that play, to come back to the ball, but that's a toss up. What he should have done was knock down the corner before he could make a play. That's just my opinion. All in all, this looks like a typical game film for a receiver, to me. And he had far better games than this.

Nobody dropped more balls than Jimmy Graham and Marques Colston last year. We'll see what he does, bro.

04-29-2013, 04:17 AM	#16
burningmetal 1000 Posts + Join Date: Mar 2012 Posts: 3,923 Blog Entries: 3	Re: Kenny Stills vs Florida State Originally Posted by alexonfyre Here is everything I saw: :25 - This is hard to say, If he was on the 15-yard out then he did it right and it was underthrown, if he should have been on the 10 yard out he adjusted his route too much and missed the ball. 1:28 - Has position on the DB, who walks right through him to deflect. No effort to box out, only attacks the ball with a single hand to deflect the interception. 1:36 - Not a great pass, but the ball is in his range. He loses track of the ball in the air, doesn't even come close to making a play. 3:05 - Replay shows that he adjusts his route after the ball is in the air, causing him to lose a step or two, that ball was over thrown, but he may have had a shot at it if he stayed on route and run through the DB. 3:32 - Just drops an easy TD 3:42 - Another straight up drop 3:48 - Once again unaware of ball position, despite being in position to challenge the DB for the ball, doesn't make any move, and leads to an interception. Dude, I'm still confused as to what you're looking at on your end. He doesn't drop a TD, it was batted down, and never got close to his hands... horribly under thrown. At 1:28, he is practically run over. You can't box a guy out who is running through you. It could have been interference. When I first saw that play I immediately said that was either interference, or the guy made a perfect play on the ball because it sure looked like he went right through him, just as you said... He's not a 260 pound power forward. NFL receivers routinely fail to make that catch. At 1:36, I don't think he ever saw the ball. Looked like Jones panicked and just airmailed it. Stills was double covered and didn't turn his head till the ball was just past his head. At 3:42, the defender got a hand in, so it wasn't a straight up drop. After watching it a couple times, I'll say that maybe he should have come back for the ball, but the qb needs to lead him. Usually you come back to the ball when your qb is on the run, but he was open and Jones was not under pressure. Ball has to be in front. But it's one he could have possibly had, I'll give you that. I agree that the double move he made on one of the deep routes slowed him, but then maybe the double move is what got him open in the first place. That's not something we can conclusively say. 3:48, I can see what you're saying, but he's running a fly pattern at full speed and the ball is under thrown, again. It's not as easy as you might think to stop your momentum on that play, to come back to the ball, but that's a toss up. What he should have done was knock down the corner before he could make a play. That's just my opinion. All in all, this looks like a typical game film for a receiver, to me. And he had far better games than this. Nobody dropped more balls than Jimmy Graham and Marques Colston last year. We'll see what he does, bro.
	If I had a nickel for every time I heard that, the NFL would fine and suspend me.

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