Rob Ryan: Everybody is Competing on Defense

SmashMouth · 05-29-2013, 02:18 PM

Originally Posted by Danno

2 seasons ago we were 13th best defense in points allowed, and we didn't have the talent or depth we have now.

We've replaced Shanle, Cassillas, Porter, McBride, Herring, Dunbar, Rogers, Franklin, Charleston, Ellis, and King.

Starters in red.

We can surely become a top tier defense with who we have now. Talent isn't the problem.

...question remains ...Can Ryan get it done it FIVE MINUTES?

QBREES9 · 05-29-2013, 10:16 PM

Well when you were the worst Defense in the NFL. Yeah people are going to talk.

Seer1 · 05-30-2013, 09:41 AM

Originally Posted by QBREES9

Well when you were the worst Defense in the NFL. Yeah people are going to talk.

Yes we are!

TheOak · 05-30-2013, 10:53 AM

We were not the worst in the league in 2012, its mind blowing how when it comes to offense no one cares about yards, but only the score board. When the discussion changes to defense people only look at yardage.

Defense
In 2012 we were 31st in PPG 28.4

In 2011 we were 13th in PPG 21.2
In 2010 we were 7th in PPG 19.2,
In 2009 we were 20th in PPG 21.3 (the sky didnt fall)

There is only a 7 point difference between our Super Bowl winning Defense and our 2012 defense.

We do not, nor have we had the worst defense in the league during the Payton era. We did have one season where we had the wrong coach coaching our defense. 2012 was not the defense, it was the coaching.

Offense
In 2012 we were 3rd in PPG 28.8
In 2011 we were 2nd in PPG 34.2
In 2010 we were 11th in PPG 24
In 2009 we were 1st in PPG 31.9

In 2012 that is a .4 PPG delta between allowed and scored.

Between 2011 and 2012 there is a 12.6 point differential between points scored and points allowed, and that reflected in our record.

Spagnuolo is gone, our defense remains, and is has been and is still a defense that can get us to a Championship.

Danno · 05-30-2013, 11:00 AM

Originally Posted by TheOak

We were not the worst in the league in 2012, its mind blowing how when it comes to offense no one cares about yards, but only the score board. When the discussion changes to defense people only look at yardage.

Defense
In 2012 we were 31st in PPG 28.4

In 2011 we were 13th in PPG 21.2
In 2010 we were 7th in PPG 19.2,
In 2009 we were 20th in PPG 21.3 (the sky didnt fall)

There is only a 7 point difference between our Super Bowl winning Defense and our 2012 defense.

We do not, nor have we had the worst defense in the league during the Payton era. We did have one season where we had the wrong coach coaching our defense. 2012 was not the defense, it was the coaching.

Offense
In 2012 we were 3rd in PPG 28.8
In 2011 we were 2nd in PPG 34.2
In 2010 we were 11th in PPG 24
In 2009 we were 1st in PPG 31.9

In 2012 that is a .4 PPG delta between allowed and scored.

Between 2011 and 2012 there is a 12.6 point differential between points scored and points allowed, and that reflected in our record.

Spagnuolo is gone, our defense remains, and is has been and is still a defense that can get us to a Championship.

Yep, and its my opinion that we have more talent (on paper) on this 2013 squad than any other defense we've fielded in the Payton era.

This defense should be, at the very worst, middle of the pack.

Seer1 · 05-30-2013, 11:24 AM

Crikey! Thirty-first, thirty-second, what's the difference? We were just flat out awful! I'm with Hagan that it'd take a really bad **** flingin' monkey to put us back where we were last year. So if Rob's just a plain old monkey, we end up way far into the playoffs with a middle of the road defense. If he's a good coach then this season becomes legend......wait for it.......throw in a Who Dat right here..... dary!

|Mitch| · 05-30-2013, 11:43 AM

I'm getting excited for the season already... Can't wait to see the Saints in the new scheme

Also excited to see what new wrinkles Payton has came up with

05-29-2013, 02:18 PM	#11
SmashMouth I donated, did you? Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Mandeville, LA Posts: 38,123 Blog Entries: 29	Re: Rob Ryan: Everybody is Competing on Defense Originally Posted by Danno 2 seasons ago we were 13th best defense in points allowed, and we didn't have the talent or depth we have now. We've replaced Shanle, Cassillas, Porter, McBride, Herring, Dunbar, Rogers, Franklin, Charleston, Ellis, and King. Starters in red. We can surely become a top tier defense with who we have now. Talent isn't the problem. ...question remains ...Can Ryan get it done it FIVE MINUTES?

05-29-2013, 10:16 PM	#12
QBREES9 Moderator Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: New Haven Ct Posts: 23,985	Re: Rob Ryan: Everybody is Competing on Defense Well when you were the worst Defense in the NFL. Yeah people are going to talk.

05-30-2013, 09:41 AM	#13
Seer1 Site Donor Join Date: Apr 2010 Location: Bayou Bayfield CO Posts: 4,722	Re: Rob Ryan: Everybody is Competing on Defense Originally Posted by QBREES9 Well when you were the worst Defense in the NFL. Yeah people are going to talk. Yes we are!

05-30-2013, 10:53 AM	#14
TheOak 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Dec 2009 Location: Cypress Tx. Posts: 19,026	Re: Rob Ryan: Everybody is Competing on Defense We were not the worst in the league in 2012, its mind blowing how when it comes to offense no one cares about yards, but only the score board. When the discussion changes to defense people only look at yardage. Defense In 2012 we were 31st in PPG 28.4 In 2011 we were 13th in PPG 21.2 In 2010 we were 7th in PPG 19.2, In 2009 we were 20th in PPG 21.3 (the sky didnt fall) There is only a 7 point difference between our Super Bowl winning Defense and our 2012 defense. We do not, nor have we had the worst defense in the league during the Payton era. We did have one season where we had the wrong coach coaching our defense. 2012 was not the defense, it was the coaching. Offense In 2012 we were 3rd in PPG 28.8 In 2011 we were 2nd in PPG 34.2 In 2010 we were 11th in PPG 24 In 2009 we were 1st in PPG 31.9 In 2012 that is a .4 PPG delta between allowed and scored. Between 2011 and 2012 there is a 12.6 point differential between points scored and points allowed, and that reflected in our record. Spagnuolo is gone, our defense remains, and is has been and is still a defense that can get us to a Championship. Danno likes this.
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05-30-2013, 11:00 AM	#15
Danno Truth Addict Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: Spanish Fort, AL (via NO and B/R) Posts: 24,720	Re: Rob Ryan: Everybody is Competing on Defense Originally Posted by TheOak We were not the worst in the league in 2012, its mind blowing how when it comes to offense no one cares about yards, but only the score board. When the discussion changes to defense people only look at yardage. Defense In 2012 we were 31st in PPG 28.4 In 2011 we were 13th in PPG 21.2 In 2010 we were 7th in PPG 19.2, In 2009 we were 20th in PPG 21.3 (the sky didnt fall) There is only a 7 point difference between our Super Bowl winning Defense and our 2012 defense. We do not, nor have we had the worst defense in the league during the Payton era. We did have one season where we had the wrong coach coaching our defense. 2012 was not the defense, it was the coaching. Offense In 2012 we were 3rd in PPG 28.8 In 2011 we were 2nd in PPG 34.2 In 2010 we were 11th in PPG 24 In 2009 we were 1st in PPG 31.9 In 2012 that is a .4 PPG delta between allowed and scored. Between 2011 and 2012 there is a 12.6 point differential between points scored and points allowed, and that reflected in our record. Spagnuolo is gone, our defense remains, and is has been and is still a defense that can get us to a Championship. Yep, and its my opinion that we have more talent (on paper) on this 2013 squad than any other defense we've fielded in the Payton era. This defense should be, at the very worst, middle of the pack.

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05-30-2013, 11:24 AM	#16
Seer1 Site Donor Join Date: Apr 2010 Location: Bayou Bayfield CO Posts: 4,722	Re: Rob Ryan: Everybody is Competing on Defense Crikey! Thirty-first, thirty-second, what's the difference? We were just flat out awful! I'm with Hagan that it'd take a really bad **** flingin' monkey to put us back where we were last year. So if Rob's just a plain old monkey, we end up way far into the playoffs with a middle of the road defense. If he's a good coach then this season becomes legend......wait for it.......throw in a Who Dat right here..... dary!

05-30-2013, 11:43 AM	#17
\|Mitch\| 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Oct 2009 Location: Alexandria, La Posts: 11,303	Re: Rob Ryan: Everybody is Competing on Defense I'm getting excited for the season already... Can't wait to see the Saints in the new scheme Also excited to see what new wrinkles Payton has came up with Seer1 likes this.

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