Joe Morgan arrested for DUI

TheOak · 05-30-2013, 07:22 AM

Originally Posted by D_it_up

I'm sorry. I wasn't aware that I was surrounded by actual saints here and not just fans of the team.

Originally Posted by NOS2SB

Give the guy a break. I'm sure many on this forum have driven drunk once in their lives. I don't condone it, but it happens. Hell, I got a DUI when I was arround that age and had to learn the hard way. Haven't drove drunk since and won't.

Ahhh sensibility.

When and where I grew up (Abbeville/mid-late 80s) I do not ever remember anyone getting a DWI, there were no seat belt laws, there were no open container laws either either. At 15 I had a drivers license, and poor judgment. On a Saturday night the streets were full of underage kids drinking and driving I suppose poor judgment was something only I suffered.. That is however no excuse.

At the age of 23 I got my first and only DWI, my father had to bail me out and bring me home. If anything I remember about that night it is what he told me in the car ride home. "I am not going to chew your azz, you are an adult and you have not done anything I have not done before, You just got caught. Hopefully we have both learned a lesson from this."

While getting behind the wheel drunk was poor judgment, at some point in the night he had the sensibility to pull over and not continue with poor judgment.

I see some anomalies in here as typically alcohol is not known to support good judgment once it is consumed. Perhaps it is the brand and type of alcohol that supports a sound decision making process. I personally have never come across that brand.

I am making no excuses for Joe, just stating my experiences.

Cruize · 05-30-2013, 02:00 AM

You only harmed yourself Joe. You are blessed. Be a man and never let it happen again.

D_it_up · 05-30-2013, 03:26 AM

1) How many members of this forum drink alcohol?
2) By show of hands, how many that drink have never, ever, EVER driven after drinking, if even after a few? (I never got caught is not an acceptable answer).

Wait. Are those crickets I'm hearing?.

The kid made a mistake. None of us here are judge, jury and executioner of his life. Dig around in your own backyard before you dig around in someone else's.

Crusader · 05-30-2013, 03:34 AM

Originally Posted by D_it_up

1) How many members of this forum drink alcohol?
2) By show of hands, how many that drink have never, ever, EVER driven after drinking, if even after a few? (I never got caught is not an acceptable answer).

I have never ever and will never ever. The only exception would be if there was an absolute emergency and no othr way to get help, get someone to safety etc. There just are no excuses.

D_it_up · 05-30-2013, 03:40 AM

Originally Posted by Crusader

I have never ever and will never ever. The only exception would be if there was an absolute emergency and no othr way to get help, get someone to safety etc. There just are no excuses.

Well, I guarantee you are one of the very few.

dizzle88 · 05-30-2013, 03:49 AM

Originally Posted by D_it_up

1) How many members of this forum drink alcohol?
2) By show of hands, how many that drink have never, ever, EVER driven after drinking, if even after a few? (I never got caught is not an acceptable answer).
.

Never have and never will, I've always thought that driving is a privilege and it can be taken away very easily

Have you ever noticed how when you dont have your car for a day (service, MOT etc) you all of a sudden have loads of stuff you want to do

Long story short, I wouldnt put myself in that kind of position because i value the freedom of driving too much

D_it_up · 05-30-2013, 03:55 AM

I'm sorry. I wasn't aware that I was surrounded by actual saints here and not just fans of the team.

D_it_up · 05-30-2013, 08:24 AM

I got one just two months after I turned 21. Paid the price, learned from it, moved on. It's been 16 years since that happened and I rarely even drink anymore. If I do, I have three different cab companies in my cell phone for that reason alone.

I say let the guy learn from his mistake before we go start a lynch mob after him holding torches and pitchforks. If he makes the mistake again, then cut ties. Of course, it's not my decision, but that's what I would do. Plus, I would tack on about 50 extra suicides while he watched the rest of the team practice.

SapperSaint · 05-30-2013, 08:29 AM

I am in no way saying Joe is the most evil person ever to wear a Saints uniform. I am not saying that he should be kicked off the team. But what I am saying, is that I do not like drunk drivers.

This is not a personal attack to Joe or to any of you that have done it. It happens everyday. Somebody, somewhere, is drunk or have had one too many and is behind the wheel of a vehicle right now.

Here is the thing. Lets just say he had caused a wreck and taken someones life. Not only has he caused pain to the victims family and friends, he has to go through life knowing that he killed someone. Everytime someone looks at him, they will know he killed someone. I hear all of this "Some of you are cast the first stone, people", BS. No, I have not gotten behind the wheel after drinking. I know first hand what it can lead to.

Don't tell me that this was just a little slap on the hand situation. He, just like everyone else; with or around him, knew he was drunk and shouldn't have driven. No one had the balls to stop him, Joe included. Thats the problem.

I wonder if he had killed someone one if most of you would be saying "Give the guy a break"? Be pissed at me all you want for my stance on this. I'm just greatful that no one was hurt/injured/killed.

TheOak · 05-30-2013, 08:35 AM

Originally Posted by SapperSaint

I am in no way saying Joe is the most evil person ever to wear a Saints uniform. I am not saying that he should be kicked off the team. But what I am saying, is that I do not like drunk drivers.

This is not a personal attack to Joe or to any of you that have done it. It happens everyday. Somebody, somewhere, is drunk or have had one too many and is behind the wheel of a vehicle right now.

Here is the thing. Lets just say he had caused a wreck and taken someones life. Not only has he caused pain to the victims family and friends, he has to go through life knowing that he killed someone. Everytime someone looks at him, they will know he killed someone. I hear all of this "Some of you are cast the first stone, people", BS. No, I have not gotten behind the wheel after drinking. I know first hand what it can lead to.

Don't tell me that this was just a little slap on the hand situation. He, just like everyone else; with or around him, knew he was drunk and shouldn't have driven. No one had the balls to stop him, Joe included. Thats the problem.

I wonder if he had killed someone one if most of you would be saying "Give the guy a break"? Be pissed at me all you want for my stance on this. I'm just greatful that no one was hurt/injured/killed.

I fully appreciate your view on people that drink and drive. However, we cant punish on should of, would of, could of. If that was the case then just make running a red light a mandatory 2 year sentence, as that could have killed someone also. When you get into the "coulds", its a very slippery slope that could lead to your basic rights being taken away. The entire gun law argument is based on "coulds".

The possibilities are part of the lesson, not the punishment.

05-30-2013, 07:22 AM	#1
TheOak 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Dec 2009 Location: Cypress Tx. Posts: 19,050	Re: Joe Morgan arrested for DUI Originally Posted by D_it_up I'm sorry. I wasn't aware that I was surrounded by actual saints here and not just fans of the team. Originally Posted by NOS2SB Give the guy a break. I'm sure many on this forum have driven drunk once in their lives. I don't condone it, but it happens. Hell, I got a DUI when I was arround that age and had to learn the hard way. Haven't drove drunk since and won't. Ahhh sensibility. When and where I grew up (Abbeville/mid-late 80s) I do not ever remember anyone getting a DWI, there were no seat belt laws, there were no open container laws either either. At 15 I had a drivers license, and poor judgment. On a Saturday night the streets were full of underage kids drinking and driving I suppose poor judgment was something only I suffered.. That is however no excuse. At the age of 23 I got my first and only DWI, my father had to bail me out and bring me home. If anything I remember about that night it is what he told me in the car ride home. "I am not going to chew your azz, you are an adult and you have not done anything I have not done before, You just got caught. Hopefully we have both learned a lesson from this." While getting behind the wheel drunk was poor judgment, at some point in the night he had the sensibility to pull over and not continue with poor judgment. I see some anomalies in here as typically alcohol is not known to support good judgment once it is consumed. Perhaps it is the brand and type of alcohol that supports a sound decision making process. I personally have never come across that brand. I am making no excuses for Joe, just stating my experiences. D_it_up likes this.
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05-30-2013, 02:00 AM	#2
Cruize 1000 Posts + Join Date: May 2007 Posts: 4,467	Re: Joe Morgan arrested for DUI You only harmed yourself Joe. You are blessed. Be a man and never let it happen again.
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05-30-2013, 03:26 AM	#3
D_it_up Faqda Falcons Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: Ruston, Louisiana Posts: 3,465 Blog Entries: 3	Re: Joe Morgan arrested for DUI 1) How many members of this forum drink alcohol? 2) By show of hands, how many that drink have never, ever, EVER driven after drinking, if even after a few? (I never got caught is not an acceptable answer). Wait. Are those crickets I'm hearing?. The kid made a mistake. None of us here are judge, jury and executioner of his life. Dig around in your own backyard before you dig around in someone else's. darksoul35 likes this.

05-30-2013, 03:34 AM	#4
Crusader Resident Swede Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: Märsta, Sweden Posts: 8,048	Re: Joe Morgan arrested for DUI Originally Posted by D_it_up 1) How many members of this forum drink alcohol? 2) By show of hands, how many that drink have never, ever, EVER driven after drinking, if even after a few? (I never got caught is not an acceptable answer). I have never ever and will never ever. The only exception would be if there was an absolute emergency and no othr way to get help, get someone to safety etc. There just are no excuses. jeanpierre likes this.

05-30-2013, 03:40 AM	#5
D_it_up Faqda Falcons Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: Ruston, Louisiana Posts: 3,465 Blog Entries: 3	Re: Joe Morgan arrested for DUI Originally Posted by Crusader I have never ever and will never ever. The only exception would be if there was an absolute emergency and no othr way to get help, get someone to safety etc. There just are no excuses. Well, I guarantee you are one of the very few.

05-30-2013, 03:49 AM	#6
dizzle88 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Oct 2009 Posts: 11,539	Re: Joe Morgan arrested for DUI Originally Posted by D_it_up 1) How many members of this forum drink alcohol? 2) By show of hands, how many that drink have never, ever, EVER driven after drinking, if even after a few? (I never got caught is not an acceptable answer). . Never have and never will, I've always thought that driving is a privilege and it can be taken away very easily Have you ever noticed how when you dont have your car for a day (service, MOT etc) you all of a sudden have loads of stuff you want to do Long story short, I wouldnt put myself in that kind of position because i value the freedom of driving too much jeanpierre likes this.

05-30-2013, 03:55 AM	#7
D_it_up Faqda Falcons Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: Ruston, Louisiana Posts: 3,465 Blog Entries: 3	Re: Joe Morgan arrested for DUI I'm sorry. I wasn't aware that I was surrounded by actual saints here and not just fans of the team. Crusader, TheOak and K Major like this.

05-30-2013, 08:24 AM	#8
D_it_up Faqda Falcons Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: Ruston, Louisiana Posts: 3,465 Blog Entries: 3	Re: Joe Morgan arrested for DUI I got one just two months after I turned 21. Paid the price, learned from it, moved on. It's been 16 years since that happened and I rarely even drink anymore. If I do, I have three different cab companies in my cell phone for that reason alone. I say let the guy learn from his mistake before we go start a lynch mob after him holding torches and pitchforks. If he makes the mistake again, then cut ties. Of course, it's not my decision, but that's what I would do. Plus, I would tack on about 50 extra suicides while he watched the rest of the team practice.
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05-30-2013, 08:29 AM	#9
SapperSaint Pink Nightmare Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: Mississippi Posts: 3,028 Blog Entries: 7	Re: Joe Morgan arrested for DUI I am in no way saying Joe is the most evil person ever to wear a Saints uniform. I am not saying that he should be kicked off the team. But what I am saying, is that I do not like drunk drivers. This is not a personal attack to Joe or to any of you that have done it. It happens everyday. Somebody, somewhere, is drunk or have had one too many and is behind the wheel of a vehicle right now. Here is the thing. Lets just say he had caused a wreck and taken someones life. Not only has he caused pain to the victims family and friends, he has to go through life knowing that he killed someone. Everytime someone looks at him, they will know he killed someone. I hear all of this "Some of you are cast the first stone, people", BS. No, I have not gotten behind the wheel after drinking. I know first hand what it can lead to. Don't tell me that this was just a little slap on the hand situation. He, just like everyone else; with or around him, knew he was drunk and shouldn't have driven. No one had the balls to stop him, Joe included. Thats the problem. I wonder if he had killed someone one if most of you would be saying "Give the guy a break"? Be pissed at me all you want for my stance on this. I'm just greatful that no one was hurt/injured/killed. Crusader and jeanpierre like this.
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05-30-2013, 08:35 AM	#10
TheOak 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Dec 2009 Location: Cypress Tx. Posts: 19,050	Re: Joe Morgan arrested for DUI Originally Posted by SapperSaint I am in no way saying Joe is the most evil person ever to wear a Saints uniform. I am not saying that he should be kicked off the team. But what I am saying, is that I do not like drunk drivers. This is not a personal attack to Joe or to any of you that have done it. It happens everyday. Somebody, somewhere, is drunk or have had one too many and is behind the wheel of a vehicle right now. Here is the thing. Lets just say he had caused a wreck and taken someones life. Not only has he caused pain to the victims family and friends, he has to go through life knowing that he killed someone. Everytime someone looks at him, they will know he killed someone. I hear all of this "Some of you are cast the first stone, people", BS. No, I have not gotten behind the wheel after drinking. I know first hand what it can lead to. Don't tell me that this was just a little slap on the hand situation. He, just like everyone else; with or around him, knew he was drunk and shouldn't have driven. No one had the balls to stop him, Joe included. Thats the problem. I wonder if he had killed someone one if most of you would be saying "Give the guy a break"? Be pissed at me all you want for my stance on this. I'm just greatful that no one was hurt/injured/killed. I fully appreciate your view on people that drink and drive. However, we cant punish on should of, would of, could of. If that was the case then just make running a red light a mandatory 2 year sentence, as that could have killed someone also. When you get into the "coulds", its a very slippery slope that could lead to your basic rights being taken away. The entire gun law argument is based on "coulds". The possibilities are part of the lesson, not the punishment. SaintnDE and darksoul35 like this.

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