I hate to bring this up, but...

TheOak · 06-21-2013, 05:37 PM

Originally Posted by biloxi-indian

Saints placed their exclusive-rights franchise tag on Brees. Under the rules of the exclusive franchise tag, Brees could not be contacted by other teams and remained exclusive property of the Saints.

That's correct, and he won his franchise tag appeal, he could have played under the tag and made more money last year and hit the market this year. But he didn't, he signed his contract....

biloxi-indian · 06-21-2013, 08:15 PM

Originally Posted by TheOak

That's correct, and he won his franchise tag appeal, he could have played under the tag and made more money last year and hit the market this year. But he didn't, he signed his contract....

Oak, just for the record, there is no appeal with a franchise tag. He negotiated a long-term deal. If he had not negotiated a long-term deal he could have taken the average salary for QB or sit out a year.

Also, the franchise tag was worth approximately $14mm/yr...so his approximate $20mm/yr was a bit more. Just saying.

Btw; I don't disagree with your premise, just the facts.

MatthewT · 06-21-2013, 11:36 AM

I am probably in the minority here, but let Graham play out his last year and see what happens. In the NFL the injury risk is just too much to rip up contracts before they expire, especially a team friendly one.

saintfan · 06-21-2013, 12:12 PM

I'm not going to sweat it. Loomie knows what he's doing, and I don't think the Saints would let Jimmy walk based on where he's at right now.

But if he DID leave for the money I wouldn't hold it against him.

Seer1 · 06-21-2013, 12:21 PM

One year at a time my friend. If we get the ring, look for a wholesale buh-bye next year. If we don't many, including Jimmy"ll be around for a while. The Pats are going to need TEs this year and Jimmy's ours for this one.*

*Providing he stays healthy.

jeanpierre · 06-21-2013, 05:24 PM

Worst case scenario - he gets franchised next season, approximately 6.5mil/year, then we could tag him again next year with escalator, allowing two years to find a replacement...

The smart move: contract extension now, giving more money sooner and spreading the salary cap hit over more years with less of a dent per year...

He gets wealthier faster and the Saints have a manageable salary impact...

Plus you eliminate the "distraction"; and Drew won't let the big Mo affect his play, game...

Luda34 · 06-21-2013, 06:23 PM

I was thinking the samething and I believe your right we need to sign him before the seasons over.

vpheughan · 06-21-2013, 07:09 PM

Loyalty? No such thing anymore from either side. "When I say it's a game, you say it's a business. When I say it's a business, you say it's a game."

RaginCajun83 · 06-21-2013, 10:56 PM

What me worry? Saints have Loomis, he'll make sure Jimmy gets paid and it doesn't put the Saints is salary cap hell for the next 5-8 years

biloxi-indian · 06-24-2013, 08:40 AM

Oak,

Trying to decipher your statement re; Brees ability to;

"and hit the market this year"

Do you have one of those "linky" things which provides a bit of clarity.

TIA

06-21-2013, 05:37 PM	#1
TheOak 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Dec 2009 Location: Cypress Tx. Posts: 19,039	Re: I hate to bring this up, but... Originally Posted by biloxi-indian Saints placed their exclusive-rights franchise tag on Brees. Under the rules of the exclusive franchise tag, Brees could not be contacted by other teams and remained exclusive property of the Saints. That's correct, and he won his franchise tag appeal, he could have played under the tag and made more money last year and hit the market this year. But he didn't, he signed his contract....
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06-21-2013, 08:15 PM	#2
biloxi-indian Site Donor Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: Southlake, TX Posts: 1,706	Re: I hate to bring this up, but... Originally Posted by TheOak That's correct, and he won his franchise tag appeal, he could have played under the tag and made more money last year and hit the market this year. But he didn't, he signed his contract.... Oak, just for the record, there is no appeal with a franchise tag. He negotiated a long-term deal. If he had not negotiated a long-term deal he could have taken the average salary for QB or sit out a year. Also, the franchise tag was worth approximately $14mm/yr...so his approximate $20mm/yr was a bit more. Just saying. Btw; I don't disagree with your premise, just the facts.

06-21-2013, 11:36 AM	#3
MatthewT 1000 Posts + Join Date: Sep 2004 Location: Mississippi Posts: 2,729	Re: I hate to bring this up, but... I am probably in the minority here, but let Graham play out his last year and see what happens. In the NFL the injury risk is just too much to rip up contracts before they expire, especially a team friendly one. TheOak likes this.

06-21-2013, 12:12 PM	#4
saintfan Donated Plasma Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: San Francisco, CA Posts: 18,556 Blog Entries: 5	Re: I hate to bring this up, but... I'm not going to sweat it. Loomie knows what he's doing, and I don't think the Saints would let Jimmy walk based on where he's at right now. But if he DID leave for the money I wouldn't hold it against him.

06-21-2013, 12:21 PM	#5
Seer1 Site Donor Join Date: Apr 2010 Location: Bayou Bayfield CO Posts: 4,722	Re: I hate to bring this up, but... One year at a time my friend. If we get the ring, look for a wholesale buh-bye next year. If we don't many, including Jimmy"ll be around for a while. The Pats are going to need TEs this year and Jimmy's ours for this one.* *Providing he stays healthy.

06-21-2013, 05:24 PM	#6
jeanpierre Site Donor 2018 Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Thibodaux Posts: 43,543 Blog Entries: 39	Re: I hate to bring this up, but... Worst case scenario - he gets franchised next season, approximately 6.5mil/year, then we could tag him again next year with escalator, allowing two years to find a replacement... The smart move: contract extension now, giving more money sooner and spreading the salary cap hit over more years with less of a dent per year... He gets wealthier faster and the Saints have a manageable salary impact... Plus you eliminate the "distraction"; and Drew won't let the big Mo affect his play, game...

06-21-2013, 06:23 PM	#7
Luda34 1000 Posts + Join Date: Dec 2010 Location: Houston Tx Posts: 1,219	Re: I hate to bring this up, but... I was thinking the samething and I believe your right we need to sign him before the seasons over.

06-21-2013, 07:09 PM	#8
vpheughan 1000 Posts + Join Date: Aug 2007 Posts: 4,543	Re: I hate to bring this up, but... Loyalty? No such thing anymore from either side. "When I say it's a game, you say it's a business. When I say it's a business, you say it's a game." Seer1 likes this.
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06-21-2013, 10:56 PM	#9
RaginCajun83 Hou Saints Fan Join Date: Sep 2009 Location: Houston, Tx Posts: 5,050	Re: I hate to bring this up, but... What me worry? Saints have Loomis, he'll make sure Jimmy gets paid and it doesn't put the Saints is salary cap hell for the next 5-8 years

06-24-2013, 08:40 AM	#10
biloxi-indian Site Donor Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: Southlake, TX Posts: 1,706	Re: I hate to bring this up, but... Oak, Trying to decipher your statement re; Brees ability to; "and hit the market this year" Do you have one of those "linky" things which provides a bit of clarity. TIA

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