1st Round Pick Draft Suckage

jeanpierre · 07-30-2013, 06:34 AM

Originally Posted by |Mitch|

But anyone who saw him in 2011 when we were still running GWs man coverage saw him grab 7.5 sacks.

Funny; we're going back to a very similar system... And now with Vaccaro in the mix; there will be times that all 3 safeties are on the field at the same time and Harper will most likely be blitzing at will

Mitch, a safety, a defensive back, should have a primary responsibility of coverage. 7.5 Sacks in how many plays in a season vs the mistackles, blown coverages, poor angles?!? As rare as they've been for this defense the last seven years, I'd give up the sacks by a safety for better coverage, better tackling, and a better turnover rate and let the front seven make the Sacks...

jeanpierre · 07-30-2013, 06:37 AM

Originally Posted by CheramieIII

jordan is working out so far but kenny is going to be a yeti. i was going to say beast but the word is often over used in athletic discussions.

kenny the yeti the artic beast

Yeti?!? His Size?!?

Prefer a velociraptor, no fear, intelligent, fierce, fast, cunning, deadly, yeah, a velociraptor...

thebdj · 07-30-2013, 07:02 AM

Originally Posted by jeanpierre

Yeti?!? His Size?!?

Prefer a velociraptor, no fear, intelligent, fierce, fast, cunning, deadly, yeah, a velociraptor...

Does this mean that every time he breaks up a pass or makes an Interception I can use the quote 'Clever Girl'

I'm assuming everyone will get that JP reference haha

|Mitch| · 07-30-2013, 07:41 AM

Originally Posted by jeanpierre

Mitch, a safety, a defensive back, should have a primary responsibility of coverage. 7.5 Sacks in how many plays in a season vs the mistackles, blown coverages, poor angles?!? As rare as they've been for this defense the last seven years, I'd give up the sacks by a safety for better coverage, better tackling, and a better turnover rate and let the front seven make the Sacks...

Um; isn't that the reason Vaccaro was drafted?! I want my cake and eat it too, let Harper return to multiple sacks a season and Vaccaro can handle the pass coverage

Danno · 07-30-2013, 07:55 AM

Originally Posted by |Mitch|

But anyone who saw him in 2011 when we were still running GWs man coverage saw him grab 7.5 sacks.

Funny; we're going back to a very similar system... And now with Vaccaro in the mix; there will be times that all 3 safeties are on the field at the same time and Harper will most likely be blitzing at will

Its not simply blitzing. Its playing that traditional SS role that plays close to the line to support the LB's and cover that short to intermediate zone.

Harper did that very well and thats what he received that huge contract for.

Fifteen yards and in is where Harper shines. Outside of that 15 yards is when he gets into trouble, like most SS's do.

The real headscratcher was Jenkins. He seemed ideal for that deep centerfield saftey spot Spags runs. I'll chalk his down year up to the Spags disaster too.

|Mitch| · 07-30-2013, 03:51 PM

Originally Posted by Spot on Dtan

I know it's been over-discussed, but were I a Saints fan, I'd like to see Harper get some snaps at LB.

He's too small to get any consistent snaps at LB, teams would run right at him, and throw right to who he's covering.

He's basically playing a LB role when he blitzes from the box, but he's usually the unblocked man due to numbers

Seer1 · 07-30-2013, 03:54 PM

Originally Posted by Spot on Dtan

Anyone who saw Roman Harper in pass coverage knows that KV was the right pick.

There was a very good argument for an OLB instead and had Jenkins not come along, a nose tackle as well.

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jeanpierre Site Donor 2018 Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Thibodaux Posts: 43,543 Blog Entries: 39	Re: 1st Round Pick Draft Suckage Originally Posted by \|Mitch\| But anyone who saw him in 2011 when we were still running GWs man coverage saw him grab 7.5 sacks. Funny; we're going back to a very similar system... And now with Vaccaro in the mix; there will be times that all 3 safeties are on the field at the same time and Harper will most likely be blitzing at will Mitch, a safety, a defensive back, should have a primary responsibility of coverage. 7.5 Sacks in how many plays in a season vs the mistackles, blown coverages, poor angles?!? As rare as they've been for this defense the last seven years, I'd give up the sacks by a safety for better coverage, better tackling, and a better turnover rate and let the front seven make the Sacks... Spot on Dtan likes this.

07-30-2013, 06:37 AM	#42
jeanpierre Site Donor 2018 Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Thibodaux Posts: 43,543 Blog Entries: 39	Re: 1st Round Pick Draft Suckage Originally Posted by CheramieIII jordan is working out so far but kenny is going to be a yeti. i was going to say beast but the word is often over used in athletic discussions. kenny the yeti the artic beast Yeti?!? His Size?!? Prefer a velociraptor, no fear, intelligent, fierce, fast, cunning, deadly, yeah, a velociraptor...

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thebdj 100th Post Join Date: Sep 2010 Location: London, England Posts: 272	Re: 1st Round Pick Draft Suckage Originally Posted by jeanpierre Yeti?!? His Size?!? Prefer a velociraptor, no fear, intelligent, fierce, fast, cunning, deadly, yeah, a velociraptor... Does this mean that every time he breaks up a pass or makes an Interception I can use the quote 'Clever Girl' I'm assuming everyone will get that JP reference haha jeanpierre likes this.

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\|Mitch\| 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Oct 2009 Location: Alexandria, La Posts: 11,303	Re: 1st Round Pick Draft Suckage Originally Posted by jeanpierre Mitch, a safety, a defensive back, should have a primary responsibility of coverage. 7.5 Sacks in how many plays in a season vs the mistackles, blown coverages, poor angles?!? As rare as they've been for this defense the last seven years, I'd give up the sacks by a safety for better coverage, better tackling, and a better turnover rate and let the front seven make the Sacks... Um; isn't that the reason Vaccaro was drafted?! I want my cake and eat it too, let Harper return to multiple sacks a season and Vaccaro can handle the pass coverage

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Danno Truth Addict Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: Spanish Fort, AL (via NO and B/R) Posts: 24,713	Re: 1st Round Pick Draft Suckage Originally Posted by \|Mitch\| But anyone who saw him in 2011 when we were still running GWs man coverage saw him grab 7.5 sacks. Funny; we're going back to a very similar system... And now with Vaccaro in the mix; there will be times that all 3 safeties are on the field at the same time and Harper will most likely be blitzing at will Its not simply blitzing. Its playing that traditional SS role that plays close to the line to support the LB's and cover that short to intermediate zone. Harper did that very well and thats what he received that huge contract for. Fifteen yards and in is where Harper shines. Outside of that 15 yards is when he gets into trouble, like most SS's do. The real headscratcher was Jenkins. He seemed ideal for that deep centerfield saftey spot Spags runs. I'll chalk his down year up to the Spags disaster too. \|Mitch\|, thebdj and ProMallNinja like this.

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\|Mitch\| 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Oct 2009 Location: Alexandria, La Posts: 11,303	Re: 1st Round Pick Draft Suckage Originally Posted by Spot on Dtan I know it's been over-discussed, but were I a Saints fan, I'd like to see Harper get some snaps at LB. He's too small to get any consistent snaps at LB, teams would run right at him, and throw right to who he's covering. He's basically playing a LB role when he blitzes from the box, but he's usually the unblocked man due to numbers Halo and Seer1 like this.

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Seer1 Site Donor Join Date: Apr 2010 Location: Bayou Bayfield CO Posts: 4,722	Re: 1st Round Pick Draft Suckage Originally Posted by Spot on Dtan Anyone who saw Roman Harper in pass coverage knows that KV was the right pick. There was a very good argument for an OLB instead and had Jenkins not come along, a nose tackle as well.

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