Cutting Will Smith

Beastmode · 08-10-2013, 05:20 PM

Originally Posted by CharityMike

Either 20lbs is not easy to see or he has a tighter uniform. He looked fat and slow!

He would have to get below his draft weight and that is not going to happen.

lee909 · 08-10-2013, 08:42 AM

Last bit on the contract

The Saints did finally push for a paycut in 2013, but by that time the damage was done. Even in reducing his pay from $9 to $3 million Smith still has a cap charge of $8 million this season putting him around the top 15 at the position. When they do release him next season he will still carry over $2 million in cap penalties due to that 2012 restructure.

westbankdaze · 08-10-2013, 08:48 AM

There is no way Smith is going to play LB this season. He will be a backup DE.

The LB corps is worrisome. We didn't get to see some of the guys but I am not sure we are going to see alot of improvement from Tez and galette. Neither are good in coverage so I don't see how we will get that improvement in the flats. I don't think the outcome would have been any different than what we saw last night based on all those screen passes they were throwing.

dizzle88 · 08-10-2013, 08:51 AM

Rememer when we all said theres no way Shanle gets on the field this season?

All you heard from the coaching staff is how good of a player he was - every week

I hope its not the case with will smith, bring him in as an extra lineman sure, but I'd rather have jason david play OLB than will smith

westbankdaze · 08-10-2013, 08:53 AM

Shanle looked better as a LB than what we showed last night when the ones were on the field.

B_Dub_Saint · 08-10-2013, 08:57 AM

Its kinda forcing him out. Everyone knows he's to slow for Olb.

halloween 65 · 08-10-2013, 09:52 AM

Originally Posted by B_Dub_Saint

Its kinda forcing him out. Everyone knows he's to slow for Olb.

And this is why I would put him on the inside, he could be very effective shedding blocks and tough against the run.

Beastmode · 08-10-2013, 10:33 AM

The problem isn't Will, he's getting old. The problem is whoever wrote that contract. He's going to get paid either way and it goes against the cap. Makes no difference.

I say release him. At least he's not taking up a roster spot and we can get something out of the bargain bin in a couple of weeks. I would even say there are better options at backup DE which is really the only role he's suited for at this point. I thought he would be ok but unless he turns the corner hard by next game I agree, he's not playing that position.

FinSaint · 08-10-2013, 04:11 PM

I was a bit surprised at how slow and out of place Smith looked in the 1st preseason game - maybe I let the optimist in me talk me into believing that somehow this positional change would work out... IDK.

Anyway, I was very disappointed with how he behaved on the field and it didn't look any better during the second watch, so maybe he could move back into a "hand on the turf" position or maybe he'll improve... but at the moment I just can't see a way he could be a starter in any of the positions available to him in this defense.

pinch · 08-12-2013, 08:37 AM

Originally Posted by FinSaint

I was a bit surprised at how slow and out of place Smith looked in the 1st preseason game - maybe I let the optimist in me talk me into believing that somehow this positional change would work out... IDK.

Anyway, I was very disappointed with how he behaved on the field and it didn't look any better during the second watch, so maybe he could move back into a "hand on the turf" position or maybe he'll improve... but at the moment I just can't see a way he could be a starter in any of the positions available to him in this defense.

Yup. Linebacker is entirely different than DE and I've been skeptical from the beginning that ANY of our guys would transition smoothly. After watching that game I think we're going to have a mess on our hands.

08-10-2013, 05:20 PM	#1
Beastmode 5000 POSTS! + Join Date: Jul 2010 Posts: 9,126	Re: Cutting Will Smith Originally Posted by CharityMike Either 20lbs is not easy to see or he has a tighter uniform. He looked fat and slow! He would have to get below his draft weight and that is not going to happen.
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08-10-2013, 08:42 AM	#2
lee909 5000 POSTS! + Join Date: Mar 2012 Location: Watford England Posts: 8,875 Blog Entries: 1	Re: Cutting Will Smith Last bit on the contract The Saints did finally push for a paycut in 2013, but by that time the damage was done. Even in reducing his pay from $9 to $3 million Smith still has a cap charge of $8 million this season putting him around the top 15 at the position. When they do release him next season he will still carry over $2 million in cap penalties due to that 2012 restructure.

08-10-2013, 08:48 AM	#3
westbankdaze 500th Post Join Date: Jul 2011 Posts: 843	Re: Cutting Will Smith There is no way Smith is going to play LB this season. He will be a backup DE. The LB corps is worrisome. We didn't get to see some of the guys but I am not sure we are going to see alot of improvement from Tez and galette. Neither are good in coverage so I don't see how we will get that improvement in the flats. I don't think the outcome would have been any different than what we saw last night based on all those screen passes they were throwing. K Major likes this.
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08-10-2013, 08:51 AM	#4
dizzle88 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Oct 2009 Posts: 11,542	Re: Cutting Will Smith Rememer when we all said theres no way Shanle gets on the field this season? All you heard from the coaching staff is how good of a player he was - every week I hope its not the case with will smith, bring him in as an extra lineman sure, but I'd rather have jason david play OLB than will smith ClintSaints likes this.

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westbankdaze 500th Post Join Date: Jul 2011 Posts: 843	Re: Cutting Will Smith Shanle looked better as a LB than what we showed last night when the ones were on the field.
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08-10-2013, 08:57 AM	#6
B_Dub_Saint 1000 Posts + Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: Lafayette, LA Posts: 2,345 Blog Entries: 1	Re: Cutting Will Smith Its kinda forcing him out. Everyone knows he's to slow for Olb. Halo and halloween 65 like this.

08-10-2013, 09:52 AM	#7
halloween 65 5000 POSTS! + Join Date: Sep 2011 Location: Grand Haven, Michigan by way of a little Mississippi River town in Louisiana Posts: 5,893	Re: Cutting Will Smith Originally Posted by B_Dub_Saint Its kinda forcing him out. Everyone knows he's to slow for Olb. And this is why I would put him on the inside, he could be very effective shedding blocks and tough against the run. ClintSaints likes this.

08-10-2013, 10:33 AM	#8
Beastmode 5000 POSTS! + Join Date: Jul 2010 Posts: 9,126	Re: Cutting Will Smith The problem isn't Will, he's getting old. The problem is whoever wrote that contract. He's going to get paid either way and it goes against the cap. Makes no difference. I say release him. At least he's not taking up a roster spot and we can get something out of the bargain bin in a couple of weeks. I would even say there are better options at backup DE which is really the only role he's suited for at this point. I thought he would be ok but unless he turns the corner hard by next game I agree, he's not playing that position. Halo and ClintSaints like this.
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08-10-2013, 04:11 PM	#9
FinSaint Site Donor 2015 Join Date: Aug 2011 Location: Finland... formerly Southern Virginia Posts: 4,964	Re: Cutting Will Smith I was a bit surprised at how slow and out of place Smith looked in the 1st preseason game - maybe I let the optimist in me talk me into believing that somehow this positional change would work out... IDK. Anyway, I was very disappointed with how he behaved on the field and it didn't look any better during the second watch, so maybe he could move back into a "hand on the turf" position or maybe he'll improve... but at the moment I just can't see a way he could be a starter in any of the positions available to him in this defense.
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08-12-2013, 08:37 AM	#10
pinch 100th Post Join Date: Jun 2011 Location: Diamondhead, MS Posts: 272 Blog Entries: 1	Re: Cutting Will Smith Originally Posted by FinSaint I was a bit surprised at how slow and out of place Smith looked in the 1st preseason game - maybe I let the optimist in me talk me into believing that somehow this positional change would work out... IDK. Anyway, I was very disappointed with how he behaved on the field and it didn't look any better during the second watch, so maybe he could move back into a "hand on the turf" position or maybe he'll improve... but at the moment I just can't see a way he could be a starter in any of the positions available to him in this defense. Yup. Linebacker is entirely different than DE and I've been skeptical from the beginning that ANY of our guys would transition smoothly. After watching that game I think we're going to have a mess on our hands.

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