Will Smith out for the Season

08-26-2013, 02:15 PM

Originally Posted by TheOak

Have you read any of my posts? Will smith costs us 7.8M in dead money if he is cut, we have 4M left in salary cap...

Your point being?

Now he goes on IR, we don't have to cut him and take a dead money hit, and we can get a younger/faster player to take his spot if "warm bodies" are what you are worried about.

Not seeing the downside here.

saintfan · 08-26-2013, 02:15 PM

Turrible. Just Turrible. Rob Ryan just can't freaking catch a break. Going to be interesting to see what Sean and Loomie do about it...if anything. It's a big opportunity for one of the younger guys, sure, but who?

halloween 65 · 08-26-2013, 02:17 PM

I might think of putting Rufus in there, baptism by fire and see how he turns out, he looks the part but raw.

TheOak · 08-26-2013, 02:17 PM

Originally Posted by Jack Vegas

Your point being?

Now he goes on IR, costs nothing against the cap, we don't have to cut him and take a dead money hit, and we can get a younger/faster player to take his spot.

Not seeing the downside here.

You fail to see the downside because you do not understand cap, or dead money.

"This includes a player that is on Injured Reserve (IR), Physically Unable to Perform (PUP), and the Practice Squad (PS). Practice Squad contracts are included in a team’s Salary Cap during the season except in certain situations where a practice squad player is signed to another team’s 53-man roster."
NFL Salary Cap Guru

Jack Vegas · 08-26-2013, 02:20 PM

Originally Posted by TheOak

You fail to see the downside because you do not understand cap, or dead money.

"This includes a player that is on Injured Reserve (IR), Physically Unable to Perform (PUP), and the Practice Squad (PS). Practice Squad contracts are included in a team’s Salary Cap during the season except in certain situations where a practice squad player is signed to another team’s 53-man roster."
NFL Salary Cap Guru

Yeah, whatever, I edited my post when I realized my mistake. It still doesn't make a difference.

I rarely ever post here, but I've seen the way you operate too many times and I'm done with it. Feel free to post in a less condescending manner in the future.

lee909 · 08-26-2013, 02:20 PM

Thank you Will Smith

TheOak · 08-26-2013, 02:21 PM

Originally Posted by Jack Vegas

Yeah, whatever, I edited my post when I realized my mistake.

Obviously

blackangold · 08-26-2013, 02:34 PM

This is not addition by subtraction as some would like to think. Will Smith was not going to be great at rushing the passer, in-fact he would have been bellow average, however the guy was great at stopping the run.

With this latest development I am interested to see if Wilson and Gallete get time in P4, I feel they should get 1 or two series.

Richardson has played well and I think we should see more of Martin, Johnson has played many snaps but has not made many plays.

|Mitch| · 08-26-2013, 02:41 PM

Originally Posted by blackangold

With this latest development I am interested to see if Wilson and Gallete get time in P4, I feel they should get 1 or two series.

I don't think Wilson will return until week one, or at least that's what I understood. His injury has a 4-6 week diagnosis, I can't see Payton risking further injury for a preseason game.

Crusader · 08-26-2013, 02:43 PM

This isn't good at all. While Smith had become the new Shanle for a lot f fans fact still remains no coach will put a player in the starting lineup that he don't think gives the team the best chance to win. Obviously Smith was that guy at this point whether we fans agree or not.
I sure hope we have some young guys that can develop in a hurry.

08-26-2013, 02:15 PM	#31
Threaded by Jack Vegas 1000 Posts + Join Date: Jul 2011 Posts: 2,254 Rating: (0 votes - average) Originally Posted by TheOak Have you read any of my posts? Will smith costs us 7.8M in dead money if he is cut, we have 4M left in salary cap... Your point being? Now he goes on IR, we don't have to cut him and take a dead money hit, and we can get a younger/faster player to take his spot if "warm bodies" are what you are worried about. Not seeing the downside here.
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08-26-2013, 02:15 PM	#32
saintfan Donated Plasma Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: San Francisco, CA Posts: 18,556 Blog Entries: 5	Re: Will Smith out for the Season Turrible. Just Turrible. Rob Ryan just can't freaking catch a break. Going to be interesting to see what Sean and Loomie do about it...if anything. It's a big opportunity for one of the younger guys, sure, but who?

08-26-2013, 02:17 PM	#33
halloween 65 5000 POSTS! + Join Date: Sep 2011 Location: Grand Haven, Michigan by way of a little Mississippi River town in Louisiana Posts: 5,893	Re: Will Smith out for the Season I might think of putting Rufus in there, baptism by fire and see how he turns out, he looks the part but raw.

08-26-2013, 02:17 PM	#34
TheOak 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Dec 2009 Location: Cypress Tx. Posts: 19,051	Re: Will Smith out for the Season Originally Posted by Jack Vegas Your point being? Now he goes on IR, costs nothing against the cap, we don't have to cut him and take a dead money hit, and we can get a younger/faster player to take his spot. Not seeing the downside here. You fail to see the downside because you do not understand cap, or dead money. "This includes a player that is on Injured Reserve (IR), Physically Unable to Perform (PUP), and the Practice Squad (PS). Practice Squad contracts are included in a team’s Salary Cap during the season except in certain situations where a practice squad player is signed to another team’s 53-man roster." NFL Salary Cap Guru

08-26-2013, 02:20 PM	#35
Jack Vegas 1000 Posts + Join Date: Jul 2011 Posts: 2,254	Re: Will Smith out for the Season Originally Posted by TheOak You fail to see the downside because you do not understand cap, or dead money. "This includes a player that is on Injured Reserve (IR), Physically Unable to Perform (PUP), and the Practice Squad (PS). Practice Squad contracts are included in a team’s Salary Cap during the season except in certain situations where a practice squad player is signed to another team’s 53-man roster." NFL Salary Cap Guru Yeah, whatever, I edited my post when I realized my mistake. It still doesn't make a difference. I rarely ever post here, but I've seen the way you operate too many times and I'm done with it. Feel free to post in a less condescending manner in the future. voodooido, SaintsBro and cmike like this.
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08-26-2013, 02:21 PM	#37
TheOak 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Dec 2009 Location: Cypress Tx. Posts: 19,051	Re: Will Smith out for the Season Originally Posted by Jack Vegas Yeah, whatever, I edited my post when I realized my mistake. Obviously

08-26-2013, 02:34 PM	#38
blackangold 1000 Posts + Join Date: Aug 2011 Posts: 3,422	Re: Will Smith out for the Season This is not addition by subtraction as some would like to think. Will Smith was not going to be great at rushing the passer, in-fact he would have been bellow average, however the guy was great at stopping the run. With this latest development I am interested to see if Wilson and Gallete get time in P4, I feel they should get 1 or two series. Richardson has played well and I think we should see more of Martin, Johnson has played many snaps but has not made many plays.

08-26-2013, 02:41 PM	#39
\|Mitch\| 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Oct 2009 Location: Alexandria, La Posts: 11,303	Re: Will Smith out for the Season Originally Posted by blackangold With this latest development I am interested to see if Wilson and Gallete get time in P4, I feel they should get 1 or two series. I don't think Wilson will return until week one, or at least that's what I understood. His injury has a 4-6 week diagnosis, I can't see Payton risking further injury for a preseason game.

08-26-2013, 02:43 PM	#40
Crusader Resident Swede Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: Märsta, Sweden Posts: 8,049	Re: Will Smith out for the Season This isn't good at all. While Smith had become the new Shanle for a lot f fans fact still remains no coach will put a player in the starting lineup that he don't think gives the team the best chance to win. Obviously Smith was that guy at this point whether we fans agree or not. I sure hope we have some young guys that can develop in a hurry. Halo likes this.

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