Will Smith out for the Season

homerj07 · 08-26-2013, 04:55 PM

The injuries are piling up. That I don't like.

Papa Voodoo · 08-26-2013, 05:02 PM

True, but at least it wasn't Keenan Lewis, Cam Jordan, and Lofton. Could have been much worse. I doubt any key players wil be in on Thursday.

iceshack149 · 08-26-2013, 05:17 PM

Will Smith was one of the only good players that the Saints had on the defense over last few years. He's a great DE in the 43 and I appreciate what he did while he was here.

People forget that he'd worked all his life to get to the NFL and become successful. Many fans celebrated when he was in his prime and many now are celebrating his apparent departure.

|Mitch| · 08-26-2013, 05:21 PM

Originally Posted by iceshack149

He's a great DE in the 34 and I appreciate what he did while he was here.

There lies the problem, he was the starting OLB and only played on the line occasionally.

papz · 08-26-2013, 05:24 PM

Originally Posted by iceshack149

Will Smith was one of the only good players that the Saints had on the defense over last few years. He's a great DE in the 34 and I appreciate what he did while he was here.

People forget that he'd worked all his life to get to the NFL and become successful. Many fans celebrated when he was in his prime and many now are celebrating his apparent departure.

He was always under appreciated. No one forced the Saints to pony up all that money to re-sign him. He was a very good and loyal Saint.

thebdj · 08-26-2013, 05:49 PM

Was he really under-appreciated? His production for his pay was a little bit out of kilter.

He was indeed a good and loyal Saint but not one in years to come that we will say 'Wow, remember that guy!'.

I still wanted him as part of the active squad this year so this is a disappointing blow but as I said before, not one that especially concerns me from a defensive productivity point of view this year.

papz · 08-26-2013, 05:58 PM

Originally Posted by thebdj

Was he really under-appreciated? His production for his pay was a little bit out of kilter.

Imo, yes he was... and a lot. Every since he signed his large contract, people would always harp on his production. People were so focused on him not producing on the level of his contract, they tended to forget what good he brought to the table.

He was indeed a good and loyal Saint but not one in years to come that we will say 'Wow, remember that guy!'.

Well, he's certainly not Hall of Fame material nor a waiting highlight reel.

I still wanted him as part of the active squad this year so this is a disappointing blow but as I said before, not one that especially concerns me from a defensive productivity point of view this year.

I would have been fine either way. If he made the team, I would have been rooting for him. If he were gone, I'd wish him the best.

Danno · 08-26-2013, 06:25 PM

Originally Posted by papz

Imo, yes he was... and a lot. Every since he signed his large contract, people would always harp on his production. People were so focused on him not producing on the level of his contract, they tended to forget what good he brought to the table.

Apparently the cost of a player determines how good or bad they are on the field on Sundays. Its two different discussions that seem to overwhelm the B&G simpletons.

thebdj · 08-27-2013, 09:41 AM

Originally Posted by Danno

Apparently the cost of a player determines how good or bad they are on the field on Sundays. Its two different discussions that seem to overwhelm the B&G simpletons.

This is an interesting comment. If my interpretation of it is correct then you are upset by people who directly link production to cost.

Of course one does not befit the other. Just because you pay a lot for a player doesn't guarantee (and that is the important bit) he is a machine. Vice versa, you pay peanuts sometimes and don't always get mediocre Production or Practice Squad standards.

Unfortunately though there is a lot more pressure to perform when you have taken on a big contract. You eat into one of the most important parts of the game which is the salary cap. In 'you' taking a huge slice of the pie, there is less to share around other able-bodied players and thus, more potential chances at great playmakers.

In more simplistic terms, if you spent a lot of money on a sports car, you would expect luxury and speed. If all the vehicle did was get you from A to B then you may as well have bought a hatchback. A big price tag doesn't guarantee you that great player but it does enforce expectation and if you do not meet the expectation then you have to take the heat.

That sounds fair right? Not jumping on a 'Bash-Will-Smith' bandwagon, genuinely think he is a loss to the depth of the squad.

Saintaintso · 08-26-2013, 05:52 PM

Titans entire line backing core was out the replacements sacked Matt Ryan 6 times ... And what happened to that other lb that was beating chase Thomas out ? Eric something ???

08-26-2013, 04:55 PM	#1
homerj07 In Doh We Trust Join Date: Sep 2009 Location: Central Florida Posts: 7,027 Blog Entries: 16	Re: Will Smith out for the Season The injuries are piling up. That I don't like. Halo likes this.

08-26-2013, 05:02 PM	#2
Papa Voodoo 1000 Posts + Join Date: Jun 2007 Posts: 1,634	Re: Will Smith out for the Season True, but at least it wasn't Keenan Lewis, Cam Jordan, and Lofton. Could have been much worse. I doubt any key players wil be in on Thursday.

08-26-2013, 05:17 PM	#3
iceshack149 1000 Posts + Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: Fairbanks, AK Posts: 4,407 Blog Entries: 1	Re: Will Smith out for the Season Will Smith was one of the only good players that the Saints had on the defense over last few years. He's a great DE in the 43 and I appreciate what he did while he was here. People forget that he'd worked all his life to get to the NFL and become successful. Many fans celebrated when he was in his prime and many now are celebrating his apparent departure. papz and Crusader like this.

08-26-2013, 05:21 PM	#4
\|Mitch\| 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Oct 2009 Location: Alexandria, La Posts: 11,303	Re: Will Smith out for the Season Originally Posted by iceshack149 He's a great DE in the 34 and I appreciate what he did while he was here. There lies the problem, he was the starting OLB and only played on the line occasionally.

08-26-2013, 05:24 PM	#5
papz Problem? Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: New Orleans Posts: 11,793	Re: Will Smith out for the Season Originally Posted by iceshack149 Will Smith was one of the only good players that the Saints had on the defense over last few years. He's a great DE in the 34 and I appreciate what he did while he was here. People forget that he'd worked all his life to get to the NFL and become successful. Many fans celebrated when he was in his prime and many now are celebrating his apparent departure. He was always under appreciated. No one forced the Saints to pony up all that money to re-sign him. He was a very good and loyal Saint. iceshack149 likes this.

08-26-2013, 05:49 PM	#6
thebdj 100th Post Join Date: Sep 2010 Location: London, England Posts: 272	Re: Will Smith out for the Season Was he really under-appreciated? His production for his pay was a little bit out of kilter. He was indeed a good and loyal Saint but not one in years to come that we will say 'Wow, remember that guy!'. I still wanted him as part of the active squad this year so this is a disappointing blow but as I said before, not one that especially concerns me from a defensive productivity point of view this year.

08-26-2013, 05:58 PM	#7
papz Problem? Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: New Orleans Posts: 11,793	Re: Will Smith out for the Season Originally Posted by thebdj Was he really under-appreciated? His production for his pay was a little bit out of kilter. Imo, yes he was... and a lot. Every since he signed his large contract, people would always harp on his production. People were so focused on him not producing on the level of his contract, they tended to forget what good he brought to the table. He was indeed a good and loyal Saint but not one in years to come that we will say 'Wow, remember that guy!'. Well, he's certainly not Hall of Fame material nor a waiting highlight reel. I still wanted him as part of the active squad this year so this is a disappointing blow but as I said before, not one that especially concerns me from a defensive productivity point of view this year. I would have been fine either way. If he made the team, I would have been rooting for him. If he were gone, I'd wish him the best. thebdj likes this.

08-26-2013, 06:25 PM	#8
Danno Truth Addict Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: Spanish Fort, AL (via NO and B/R) Posts: 24,758	Re: Will Smith out for the Season Originally Posted by papz Imo, yes he was... and a lot. Every since he signed his large contract, people would always harp on his production. People were so focused on him not producing on the level of his contract, they tended to forget what good he brought to the table. Apparently the cost of a player determines how good or bad they are on the field on Sundays. Its two different discussions that seem to overwhelm the B&G simpletons.

08-27-2013, 09:41 AM	#9
thebdj 100th Post Join Date: Sep 2010 Location: London, England Posts: 272	Re: Will Smith out for the Season Originally Posted by Danno Apparently the cost of a player determines how good or bad they are on the field on Sundays. Its two different discussions that seem to overwhelm the B&G simpletons. This is an interesting comment. If my interpretation of it is correct then you are upset by people who directly link production to cost. Of course one does not befit the other. Just because you pay a lot for a player doesn't guarantee (and that is the important bit) he is a machine. Vice versa, you pay peanuts sometimes and don't always get mediocre Production or Practice Squad standards. Unfortunately though there is a lot more pressure to perform when you have taken on a big contract. You eat into one of the most important parts of the game which is the salary cap. In 'you' taking a huge slice of the pie, there is less to share around other able-bodied players and thus, more potential chances at great playmakers. In more simplistic terms, if you spent a lot of money on a sports car, you would expect luxury and speed. If all the vehicle did was get you from A to B then you may as well have bought a hatchback. A big price tag doesn't guarantee you that great player but it does enforce expectation and if you do not meet the expectation then you have to take the heat. That sounds fair right? Not jumping on a 'Bash-Will-Smith' bandwagon, genuinely think he is a loss to the depth of the squad.

08-26-2013, 05:52 PM	#10
Saintaintso 500th Post Join Date: Aug 2012 Posts: 937	Re: Will Smith out for the Season Titans entire line backing core was out the replacements sacked Matt Ryan 6 times ... And what happened to that other lb that was beating chase Thomas out ? Eric something ???
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