Will Smith out for the Season

TheOak · 08-26-2013, 01:50 PM

Originally Posted by Jack Vegas

Is anybody really concerned about this loss? Bueller? Bueller? Bueller?

The man cannot play OLB. He would've been a fine backup at 3-4 DE but this is not a serious loss.

It is a very serious loss.. Not a loss of talent but a loss of warm bodies and we haven't much cap to work with.

Jack Vegas · 08-26-2013, 01:56 PM

Originally Posted by TheOak

It is a very serious loss.. Not a loss of talent but a loss of warm bodies and we haven't much cap to work with.

LOL, no. Trust me he will not be missed in the slightest. This is not 2009, or even 2010, 11 or 12. The man CANNOT play linebacker AT ALL and we're much better off giving that roster spot to a younger, faster guy who can actually play the position competently instead of watching Will Smith halfheartedly dragging his fat ass around the field and pretending he's still worthwhile because he went to one Pro Bowl forever ago.

TheOak · 08-26-2013, 02:00 PM

Originally Posted by Jack Vegas

LOL, no. Trust me he will not be missed in the slightest. This is not 2009, or even 2010, 11 or 12. The man CANNOT play linebacker AT ALL and we're much better off giving that roster spot to a younger, faster guy who can actually play the position competently instead of watching Will Smith halfheartedly dragging his fat ass around the field and pretending he's still worthwhile because he went to one Pro Bowl forever ago.

Trusting you has nothing to do with it... If that option were available do you think Smith would have been on the field to get hurt in the first place?

You are assuming Payton was playing Smith because.... ?

Jack Vegas · 08-26-2013, 02:02 PM

Originally Posted by TheOak

You are assuming Payton was playing Smith because.... ?

He is a veteran and Martez/Junior have not been around.

I honestly don't think he would've made the final roster unless cutting him was cost-prohibitive (which is very possible). Jay freaking Richardson has outplayed him by a mile and he's been out of the league for the last 2 years.

TheOak · 08-26-2013, 02:06 PM

Originally Posted by Jack Vegas

He is a veteran and Martez/Junior have not been around.

I honestly don't think he would've made the final roster unless cutting him was cost-prohibitive (which is very possible). Jay freaking Richardson has outplayed him by a mile and he's been out of the league for the last 2 years.

Have you read any of my posts? Will smith costs us 7.8M in dead money if he is cut, we have 4M left in salary cap... Do the math... That is why I said he was not a talent loss but a warm body loss. Then you went on to laugh and explain how he lacks talent..

Ya think?

Jack Vegas · 08-26-2013, 02:15 PM

Originally Posted by TheOak

Have you read any of my posts? Will smith costs us 7.8M in dead money if he is cut, we have 4M left in salary cap...

Your point being?

Now he goes on IR, we don't have to cut him and take a dead money hit, and we can get a younger/faster player to take his spot if "warm bodies" are what you are worried about.

Not seeing the downside here.

TheOak · 08-26-2013, 02:17 PM

Originally Posted by Jack Vegas

Your point being?

Now he goes on IR, costs nothing against the cap, we don't have to cut him and take a dead money hit, and we can get a younger/faster player to take his spot.

Not seeing the downside here.

You fail to see the downside because you do not understand cap, or dead money.

"This includes a player that is on Injured Reserve (IR), Physically Unable to Perform (PUP), and the Practice Squad (PS). Practice Squad contracts are included in a team’s Salary Cap during the season except in certain situations where a practice squad player is signed to another team’s 53-man roster."
NFL Salary Cap Guru

08-26-2013, 01:50 PM	#1
TheOak 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Dec 2009 Location: Cypress Tx. Posts: 19,050	Re: Will Smith out for the Season Originally Posted by Jack Vegas Is anybody really concerned about this loss? Bueller? Bueller? Bueller? The man cannot play OLB. He would've been a fine backup at 3-4 DE but this is not a serious loss. It is a very serious loss.. Not a loss of talent but a loss of warm bodies and we haven't much cap to work with.

08-26-2013, 01:56 PM	#2
Jack Vegas 1000 Posts + Join Date: Jul 2011 Posts: 2,254	Re: Will Smith out for the Season Originally Posted by TheOak It is a very serious loss.. Not a loss of talent but a loss of warm bodies and we haven't much cap to work with. LOL, no. Trust me he will not be missed in the slightest. This is not 2009, or even 2010, 11 or 12. The man CANNOT play linebacker AT ALL and we're much better off giving that roster spot to a younger, faster guy who can actually play the position competently instead of watching Will Smith halfheartedly dragging his fat ass around the field and pretending he's still worthwhile because he went to one Pro Bowl forever ago. SmashMouth and westbankdaze like this.
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08-26-2013, 02:00 PM	#3
TheOak 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Dec 2009 Location: Cypress Tx. Posts: 19,050	Re: Will Smith out for the Season Originally Posted by Jack Vegas LOL, no. Trust me he will not be missed in the slightest. This is not 2009, or even 2010, 11 or 12. The man CANNOT play linebacker AT ALL and we're much better off giving that roster spot to a younger, faster guy who can actually play the position competently instead of watching Will Smith halfheartedly dragging his fat ass around the field and pretending he's still worthwhile because he went to one Pro Bowl forever ago. Trusting you has nothing to do with it... If that option were available do you think Smith would have been on the field to get hurt in the first place? You are assuming Payton was playing Smith because.... ? Crusader likes this.

08-26-2013, 02:02 PM	#4
Jack Vegas 1000 Posts + Join Date: Jul 2011 Posts: 2,254	Re: Will Smith out for the Season Originally Posted by TheOak You are assuming Payton was playing Smith because.... ? He is a veteran and Martez/Junior have not been around. I honestly don't think he would've made the final roster unless cutting him was cost-prohibitive (which is very possible). Jay freaking Richardson has outplayed him by a mile and he's been out of the league for the last 2 years.
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08-26-2013, 02:06 PM	#5
TheOak 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Dec 2009 Location: Cypress Tx. Posts: 19,050	Re: Will Smith out for the Season Originally Posted by Jack Vegas He is a veteran and Martez/Junior have not been around. I honestly don't think he would've made the final roster unless cutting him was cost-prohibitive (which is very possible). Jay freaking Richardson has outplayed him by a mile and he's been out of the league for the last 2 years. Have you read any of my posts? Will smith costs us 7.8M in dead money if he is cut, we have 4M left in salary cap... Do the math... That is why I said he was not a talent loss but a warm body loss. Then you went on to laugh and explain how he lacks talent.. Ya think? saintsfan403 and K Major like this.

08-26-2013, 02:15 PM	#6
Jack Vegas 1000 Posts + Join Date: Jul 2011 Posts: 2,254	Re: Will Smith out for the Season Originally Posted by TheOak Have you read any of my posts? Will smith costs us 7.8M in dead money if he is cut, we have 4M left in salary cap... Your point being? Now he goes on IR, we don't have to cut him and take a dead money hit, and we can get a younger/faster player to take his spot if "warm bodies" are what you are worried about. Not seeing the downside here.
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08-26-2013, 02:17 PM	#7
TheOak 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Dec 2009 Location: Cypress Tx. Posts: 19,050	Re: Will Smith out for the Season Originally Posted by Jack Vegas Your point being? Now he goes on IR, costs nothing against the cap, we don't have to cut him and take a dead money hit, and we can get a younger/faster player to take his spot. Not seeing the downside here. You fail to see the downside because you do not understand cap, or dead money. "This includes a player that is on Injured Reserve (IR), Physically Unable to Perform (PUP), and the Practice Squad (PS). Practice Squad contracts are included in a team’s Salary Cap during the season except in certain situations where a practice squad player is signed to another team’s 53-man roster." NFL Salary Cap Guru

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