Curtis Lofton

|Mitch| · 08-26-2013, 10:13 PM

Originally Posted by westbankdaze

As for Ryan's play book did you see how many times we were in 4-3 alignment on Sunday? We played in that formation for most of the first series.

And do you understand that it's preseason? And Ryan isn't showing the Falcons too much film to prepare?

What you think they've been running 4-3 all through training camp?

TheOak · 08-26-2013, 10:24 PM

Originally Posted by westbankdaze

Desperate times require desperate measures. Play to our strengths now. I'd take our four best DL over our four best LB right now.

As for Ryan's play book did you see how many times we were in 4-3 alignment on Sunday? We played in that formation for most of the first series.

Then what are you yammering about? There is nothing to abandon.... We are in a 3-4 only 20% of the time.

homerj07 · 08-26-2013, 10:38 PM

He plays smart. True we may have to make him a 2 down player. But he still has a few good years.

Luda34 · 08-26-2013, 10:39 PM

Just go back when he was with the Falcowns we was burning him. He kind of like Roman Harper how the hell you can cover a damn TE.

|Mitch| · 08-26-2013, 10:40 PM

Originally Posted by Luda34

Just go back when he was with the Falcowns we was burning him. He kind of like Roman Harper how the hell you can cover a damn TE.

We do the same thing w/ Graham... Teams almost have to double a good TE

halloween 65 · 08-26-2013, 10:50 PM

Originally Posted by westbankdaze

Hey I was all for a 3-4 defense but let's face it we just don't have the LBs and now we have all this talent on the front line. It makes total sense.

Why is that insane?

I disagree, I don't know how this new guy plays or even if he starts but if he does he and Junior can play outside and put Tez inside with Hawthorn, Lofton is good on run downs only, Humber looks much better than Lofton on the inside and plays the pass better. I like Lofton but a 3-4 lb. he is not. We could have a really good set of 3-4 lb.'s if they play them to their strengths.

saintsfan1976 · 08-27-2013, 08:36 AM

Originally Posted by westbankdaze

Guys. We can argue semantics all day long but our D is atrocious. If we are going to go down again this year id rather it be with the young guns than the same ole show from last year.

To me we should abandon the 3-4 this year and go back to a 4-3 with Foster in the DL lineup. Since we are hurting so bad at LB going back to 3 LB might make some sense.

No offense but, 3-4....4-3.... you're getting caught up in semantics as well..

The "change" to 3-4 was not as drastic as you may think. Payton's brought in 3-4 type defenders for years. D Coordinators say they're only lined up in a 3-4 less than 20% of the time anyway.

We changed DC's. THAT was the most important part. You can call it a 2-7-2 defense if you like, but the (positive) difference is Rob Ryan.

Rugby Saint II · 08-27-2013, 02:50 PM

Curtis Lofton was a prize free agent just last year. He may need to play only 2 downs at a time, but we'll get the best out of him this year. Ryan will use him to his strengths.

saintsfan403 · 08-27-2013, 03:50 PM

Fear the Beard.

Jack Vegas · 08-27-2013, 04:27 PM

It is ironic that now we finally have the players for a decent 4-3 setup with Hicks/Jordan maturing and Humber/Hawthorne looking so solid. But it's a 3-4 league now anyway. Well past time the change was made.

Lofton is a good player. Yes he has to be protected but that is one of the great things about a 3-4 defense. He can be the player that he is and his weakness don't hurt you so much because you have a rangier guy next to him that can play coverage and run sideline to sideline.

08-26-2013, 10:13 PM	#21
\|Mitch\| 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Oct 2009 Location: Alexandria, La Posts: 11,303	Re: Curtis Lofton Originally Posted by westbankdaze As for Ryan's play book did you see how many times we were in 4-3 alignment on Sunday? We played in that formation for most of the first series. And do you understand that it's preseason? And Ryan isn't showing the Falcons too much film to prepare? What you think they've been running 4-3 all through training camp?

08-26-2013, 10:24 PM	#22
TheOak 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Dec 2009 Location: Cypress Tx. Posts: 19,026	Re: Curtis Lofton Originally Posted by westbankdaze Desperate times require desperate measures. Play to our strengths now. I'd take our four best DL over our four best LB right now. As for Ryan's play book did you see how many times we were in 4-3 alignment on Sunday? We played in that formation for most of the first series. Then what are you yammering about? There is nothing to abandon.... We are in a 3-4 only 20% of the time.

08-26-2013, 10:38 PM	#23
homerj07 In Doh We Trust Join Date: Sep 2009 Location: Central Florida Posts: 7,027 Blog Entries: 16	Re: Curtis Lofton He plays smart. True we may have to make him a 2 down player. But he still has a few good years.

08-26-2013, 10:39 PM	#24
Luda34 1000 Posts + Join Date: Dec 2010 Location: Houston Tx Posts: 1,219	Re: Curtis Lofton Just go back when he was with the Falcowns we was burning him. He kind of like Roman Harper how the hell you can cover a damn TE.

08-26-2013, 10:40 PM	#25
\|Mitch\| 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Oct 2009 Location: Alexandria, La Posts: 11,303	Re: Curtis Lofton Originally Posted by Luda34 Just go back when he was with the Falcowns we was burning him. He kind of like Roman Harper how the hell you can cover a damn TE. We do the same thing w/ Graham... Teams almost have to double a good TE

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08-26-2013, 10:50 PM	#26
halloween 65 5000 POSTS! + Join Date: Sep 2011 Location: Grand Haven, Michigan by way of a little Mississippi River town in Louisiana Posts: 5,893	Re: Curtis Lofton Originally Posted by westbankdaze Hey I was all for a 3-4 defense but let's face it we just don't have the LBs and now we have all this talent on the front line. It makes total sense. Why is that insane? I disagree, I don't know how this new guy plays or even if he starts but if he does he and Junior can play outside and put Tez inside with Hawthorn, Lofton is good on run downs only, Humber looks much better than Lofton on the inside and plays the pass better. I like Lofton but a 3-4 lb. he is not. We could have a really good set of 3-4 lb.'s if they play them to their strengths.

08-27-2013, 08:36 AM	#27
saintsfan1976 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: Atlanta Posts: 10,832 Blog Entries: 3	Re: Curtis Lofton Originally Posted by westbankdaze Guys. We can argue semantics all day long but our D is atrocious. If we are going to go down again this year id rather it be with the young guns than the same ole show from last year. To me we should abandon the 3-4 this year and go back to a 4-3 with Foster in the DL lineup. Since we are hurting so bad at LB going back to 3 LB might make some sense. No offense but, 3-4....4-3.... you're getting caught up in semantics as well.. The "change" to 3-4 was not as drastic as you may think. Payton's brought in 3-4 type defenders for years. D Coordinators say they're only lined up in a 3-4 less than 20% of the time anyway. We changed DC's. THAT was the most important part. You can call it a 2-7-2 defense if you like, but the (positive) difference is Rob Ryan.

08-27-2013, 02:50 PM	#28
Rugby Saint II Bounty Money $$$ Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: 5800 Airline Dr. Metairie, LA. Posts: 24,052	Re: Curtis Lofton Curtis Lofton was a prize free agent just last year. He may need to play only 2 downs at a time, but we'll get the best out of him this year. Ryan will use him to his strengths. saintsfan403 likes this.

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saintsfan403 1000 Posts + Join Date: Sep 2012 Location: WHO DAT NATION Posts: 2,261	Re: Curtis Lofton Fear the Beard.

08-27-2013, 04:27 PM	#30
Jack Vegas 1000 Posts + Join Date: Jul 2011 Posts: 2,254	Re: Curtis Lofton It is ironic that now we finally have the players for a decent 4-3 setup with Hicks/Jordan maturing and Humber/Hawthorne looking so solid. But it's a 3-4 league now anyway. Well past time the change was made. Lofton is a good player. Yes he has to be protected but that is one of the great things about a 3-4 defense. He can be the player that he is and his weakness don't hurt you so much because you have a rangier guy next to him that can play coverage and run sideline to sideline.
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