Curtis Lofton

westbankdaze · 08-26-2013, 08:33 PM

Guys. We can argue semantics all day long but our D is atrocious. If we are going to go down again this year id rather it be with the young guns than the same ole show from last year.

To me we should abandon the 3-4 this year and go back to a 4-3 with Foster in the DL lineup. Since we are hurting so bad at LB going back to 3 LB might make some sense.

|Mitch| · 08-26-2013, 08:38 PM

Originally Posted by westbankdaze

To me we should abandon the 3-4 this year and go back to a 4-3 with Foster in the DL lineup.

Insanity: doing the same thing over and over again and expecting different results.

rezburna · 08-26-2013, 08:43 PM

Lofton isn't very fast, and a liability in coverage; but he's smart and flies to the ball. He has a high motor, and he's a leader. Hawthorne has looked better, but we have to play players to their strengths and mask their weaknesses. Everybody has weaknesses. Patrick Willis isn't great in pass coverage either.

TheOak · 08-26-2013, 08:44 PM

Originally Posted by rezburna

Lofton isn't very fast, and a liability in coverage; but he's smart and flies to the ball. He has a high motor, and he's a leader. Hawthorne has looked better, but we have to play players to their strengths and mask their weaknesses. Everybody has weaknesses. Patrick Willis isn't great in pass coverage either.

Drew Bree's can't punt.... We try to keep him out of that situation

|Mitch| · 08-26-2013, 08:45 PM

Originally Posted by TheOak

Drew Bree's can't punt.... We try to keep him out of that situation

Wished he could play some LB

westbankdaze · 08-26-2013, 08:45 PM

Originally Posted by |Mitch|

Insanity: doing the same thing over and over again and expecting different results.

Hey I was all for a 3-4 defense but let's face it we just don't have the LBs and now we have all this talent on the front line. It makes total sense.

Why is that insane?

|Mitch| · 08-26-2013, 08:50 PM

Originally Posted by westbankdaze

Why is that insane?

Because we brought in a coordinator who is 3-4?!

And if you always jump back to the comfort zone every-time you face a little toughness, nothing changes...

westbankdaze · 08-26-2013, 08:59 PM

Originally Posted by |Mitch|

Because we brought in a coordinator who is 3-4?!

And if you always jump back to the comfort zone every-time you face a little toughness, nothing changes...

Yeah but we don't have any freaking LB's now! You don't think Rob Ryan knows how to run a 4-3? We are desperate, first thing we did today was pick up a LB.

Long term I think we should go 3-4 but, man, this season it might better we wait another season.

halloween 65 · 08-26-2013, 09:50 PM

Originally Posted by westbankdaze

Hey I was all for a 3-4 defense but let's face it we just don't have the LBs and now we have all this talent on the front line. It makes total sense.

Why is that insane?

I disagree, I don't know how this new guy plays or even if he starts but if he does he and Junior can play outside and put Tez inside with Hawthorn, Lofton is good on run downs only, Humber looks much better than Lofton on the inside and plays the pass better. I like Lofton but a 3-4 lb. he is not. We could have a really good set of 3-4 lb.'s if they play them to their strengths.

saintsfan1976 · 08-27-2013, 07:36 AM

Originally Posted by westbankdaze

Guys. We can argue semantics all day long but our D is atrocious. If we are going to go down again this year id rather it be with the young guns than the same ole show from last year.

To me we should abandon the 3-4 this year and go back to a 4-3 with Foster in the DL lineup. Since we are hurting so bad at LB going back to 3 LB might make some sense.

No offense but, 3-4....4-3.... you're getting caught up in semantics as well..

The "change" to 3-4 was not as drastic as you may think. Payton's brought in 3-4 type defenders for years. D Coordinators say they're only lined up in a 3-4 less than 20% of the time anyway.

We changed DC's. THAT was the most important part. You can call it a 2-7-2 defense if you like, but the (positive) difference is Rob Ryan.

08-26-2013, 08:33 PM	#1
westbankdaze 500th Post Join Date: Jul 2011 Posts: 843	Re: Curtis Lofton Guys. We can argue semantics all day long but our D is atrocious. If we are going to go down again this year id rather it be with the young guns than the same ole show from last year. To me we should abandon the 3-4 this year and go back to a 4-3 with Foster in the DL lineup. Since we are hurting so bad at LB going back to 3 LB might make some sense.
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08-26-2013, 08:38 PM	#2
\|Mitch\| 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Oct 2009 Location: Alexandria, La Posts: 11,303	Re: Curtis Lofton Originally Posted by westbankdaze To me we should abandon the 3-4 this year and go back to a 4-3 with Foster in the DL lineup. Insanity: doing the same thing over and over again and expecting different results.

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rezburna 5000 POSTS! + Join Date: Feb 2013 Location: Kenner, LA Posts: 8,096	Re: Curtis Lofton Lofton isn't very fast, and a liability in coverage; but he's smart and flies to the ball. He has a high motor, and he's a leader. Hawthorne has looked better, but we have to play players to their strengths and mask their weaknesses. Everybody has weaknesses. Patrick Willis isn't great in pass coverage either. \|Mitch\| and TheOak like this.

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TheOak 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Dec 2009 Location: Cypress Tx. Posts: 19,047	Re: Curtis Lofton Originally Posted by rezburna Lofton isn't very fast, and a liability in coverage; but he's smart and flies to the ball. He has a high motor, and he's a leader. Hawthorne has looked better, but we have to play players to their strengths and mask their weaknesses. Everybody has weaknesses. Patrick Willis isn't great in pass coverage either. Drew Bree's can't punt.... We try to keep him out of that situation rezburna likes this.

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\|Mitch\| 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Oct 2009 Location: Alexandria, La Posts: 11,303	Re: Curtis Lofton Originally Posted by TheOak Drew Bree's can't punt.... We try to keep him out of that situation Wished he could play some LB TheOak and rezburna like this.

08-26-2013, 08:50 PM	#7
\|Mitch\| 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Oct 2009 Location: Alexandria, La Posts: 11,303	Re: Curtis Lofton Originally Posted by westbankdaze Why is that insane? Because we brought in a coordinator who is 3-4?! And if you always jump back to the comfort zone every-time you face a little toughness, nothing changes... MarchingOn likes this.

08-26-2013, 08:59 PM	#8
westbankdaze 500th Post Join Date: Jul 2011 Posts: 843	Curtis Lofton Originally Posted by \|Mitch\| Because we brought in a coordinator who is 3-4?! And if you always jump back to the comfort zone every-time you face a little toughness, nothing changes... Yeah but we don't have any freaking LB's now! You don't think Rob Ryan knows how to run a 4-3? We are desperate, first thing we did today was pick up a LB. Long term I think we should go 3-4 but, man, this season it might better we wait another season.
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08-26-2013, 09:50 PM	#9
halloween 65 5000 POSTS! + Join Date: Sep 2011 Location: Grand Haven, Michigan by way of a little Mississippi River town in Louisiana Posts: 5,893	Re: Curtis Lofton Originally Posted by westbankdaze Hey I was all for a 3-4 defense but let's face it we just don't have the LBs and now we have all this talent on the front line. It makes total sense. Why is that insane? I disagree, I don't know how this new guy plays or even if he starts but if he does he and Junior can play outside and put Tez inside with Hawthorn, Lofton is good on run downs only, Humber looks much better than Lofton on the inside and plays the pass better. I like Lofton but a 3-4 lb. he is not. We could have a really good set of 3-4 lb.'s if they play them to their strengths.

08-27-2013, 07:36 AM	#10
saintsfan1976 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: Atlanta Posts: 11,023 Blog Entries: 3	Re: Curtis Lofton Originally Posted by westbankdaze Guys. We can argue semantics all day long but our D is atrocious. If we are going to go down again this year id rather it be with the young guns than the same ole show from last year. To me we should abandon the 3-4 this year and go back to a 4-3 with Foster in the DL lineup. Since we are hurting so bad at LB going back to 3 LB might make some sense. No offense but, 3-4....4-3.... you're getting caught up in semantics as well.. The "change" to 3-4 was not as drastic as you may think. Payton's brought in 3-4 type defenders for years. D Coordinators say they're only lined up in a 3-4 less than 20% of the time anyway. We changed DC's. THAT was the most important part. You can call it a 2-7-2 defense if you like, but the (positive) difference is Rob Ryan.

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