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We have SF a conditional 7th round pick.

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Honestly, ANY breathing body that has played OLB in a 3-4 is better than Will Smith. That was a train wreck waiting to happen. I feel the FO was doing Will a solid by letting him stay and switching positions. I think once Wilson and Gallette come back Fresh Prince's playing time would have significantly decreased.

I like the move for Haralson. Like I said anything is better than Will Smith. I cringed watching him chase down RBs in the open field during the first 2 games of PS.

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This is always the way it was going to go for Will. He would have found playing time at OLB, but mostly on rushing plays and lining up w his hand in the dirt.

I hate it went down like this for Smith especially considering all this man has done for the franchise.

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Will is part of his own situation... A lot of the reason things went down the way they did was because of how expensive he was... With out the crippling dead money he may have been traded by now to a team where he could have played DE for a few more years. He was so expensive that we had to find something for him to do...

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If he makes the roster.

I'm guessing he will as we could use the experience but it'll probably come at the expense of Rufus Johnson... though he'll probably land on our practice squad.

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I don't know about that. Rufus is basically a Jack LB. Haralson plays mostly SAM. Right now I'm thinking Rufus is 60/40 to make the roster.

Haralson allows Wilson and Galette to focus on playing the WOLB spot.

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Hahaha! All these great comments then :"Vikings suck" comes up. WTF?

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What do you think he's gonna be paid?

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How many LB'ers do you envision us keeping? If we keep 7, something is going to have to give. If we keep 8, his chances go up slightly... but I still don't see him making the team imo. My preference is to keep an extra lineman on either side of the ball or a secondary guy who excels on special teams than the extra linebacker. So if Haralson makes the team, for me, I just don't see it. But if we do go that route and keep an extra LB, I don't see Rufus helping us much out this year as opposed to some of the other LB's that are on the bubble. This isn't me knocking Rufus at all, I just don't feel he's ready to contribute which is why the PS imo, is the most logical scenario for both sides.

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As much as I think he is a genius, Will's contract was one of Loomis' dumber moments. FO should have cut/traded him before the big money years hit. Since they didn't, we got this situation on our hands

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In a 3-4 I can see us keeping 9, especially since it appears to be our weak spot. And LB's are typically very good ST'ers.

Here's my take so far...
ILB - David Hawthorne
ILB - Ramon Humber
ILB - Curtis Lofton
ILB - Kevin Reddick (or Jonathan Vilma if healthy)
OLB - Junior Galette
OLB - Rufus Johnson
OLB - Eric Martin (or Baraka Atkins, can't decide yet)
OLB - Parys Haralson
OLB - Martez Wilson

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If he returns to 2012 or even earlier form we may have actually inadvertently upgraded that position, this dude is a BEAST from the highlights and stats i've read and seen..
If he's even halfway there he's basically a faster Will Smith at best.

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Good list Danno, I'm sure one or two WRs they keep will play special teams as well

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Probably same amount he's been getting paid, the pay usually transfers over unless player is at their final contract year then he can negotiate terms.
His pay with San Francisco was 2.4Mil

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I was thinking the exact same thing.

However, the appropriate time for a "Vikings suck" comment is ALWAYS.

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2012 form would be a bad thing since he missed all of that season with a torn triceps. ;)

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If 9 ends up being the number, my feelings would definitely change. I'm looking at a Steelers roster projection and people anticipate them keeping 10 guys. I can't say I was familiar of how the position slot shakes up in a 3-4, so I'm just going to assume I may be wrong here regarding Rufus' likelihood of making the team... if the number is that high.

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$1.3 mil, he re-did his contract to stay this year with niners. My only concern is if we moved this fast, Wilson or Gallette are not healing as quickly as the staff would like.

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There are three separate costs associated with Will Smiths contract.

His base didnt explode until 2011.

Then there is the 2m roster bonus every year.

His dead money hit hasn't been below 7M since 2009 which is the year he had 13 sacks.

So by the time he was not preforming to his contract value it was too expensive to cut him due to Dead Money..

So in reality it has been cheaper to keep him and swallow the cap hit than to suffer the dead money escalation.

Reference
Will Smith Contracts, Salaries, Cap Hits, & Transactions

It was bad from the start but no one knew he wouldn't live up to expectations until it was too late.

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Also at the time you had a good tandem with Grant which meant only one was getting a double team but then Grant went to crap which led to Smith drawing the double team which led to his lower numbers.

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Yep... Some people do not see the dynamics that are associated with some people stats... That happens and Smiths numbers go down due to a double team and some where there is a WR that looks great on paper not because of his abilities but because of a super star drawing all the double coverages.

Colston on the field is great, Graham on the field is great, Moore on the field is great put them all on the field at the same time and the requirement for good single coverage makes them very dangerous. :bng:

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The New Orleans Saints trade their 2014 1st and 2nd round pick for Aldon Smith...

:)

Madden move.

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I'd do it ... Kids a monster ! No developmental phase just plug and pluck ( falcons lol )

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This may be just what the dr. ordered for this new 3-4 defense.

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With all I have read on Haralson he will beat out Junior or Wilson on the OLB starting spot, now if he does I would love to see Wilson on the ILB spot. If this guy is as good as they say he gives us a lot more flexability to move other lb's around. Here goes. ILB's Wilson, Hawthorn, Humber, and Reddick. OLB-Galette, Haralson, Martin, Johnson. Here me out on Rufus-Haralson would be an excellent mentor for this young man and possibly unleash his potential. I like Lofton very much and think he is one of the best MLB in a 4-3 in the game today but I would shop him as soon as possible to a 4-3 team.If we are going 3-4 I would not wait until next season to put the finishing touches on the front 7. We could get a real good deal with Lofton.

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A 7th round pick IF he makes the team. I don't know the percentages but a 7th round pick isn't a shoe in to make any roster. I have read that only about 5% of 7th rounders crack the starting line up. Not only did we get a guarantee with that 7th round pick. It sounds like many think he'll be a starter. I guess the 9ers would have let him go today without getting anything if they hadn't traded with the Saints.

The Saints got a sweet deal.

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1-on-1 with Parys Haralson

Excellent interview with some highlights of him... take a look

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looks to be a solid depth move at the least.

if he returns to his form before the triceps injury it is a very good move.

still does not change the 2014 draft and the look for an impact LB early

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Conditional 7th? Sold! No take-backs. Excellent deal. We knock it out with the UDFA pool anyways that late in the draft.

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That deal was a win/win, both parties made away well.. The 49ers now have 11 draft picks for 2014 and 3 of those are sevenths...
They will use them to trade up.

We at the very worst matched Smiths talent.

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Cap ramifications aside, I think 90% of us would have traded smith for Haralson without blinking an eye

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Oh God yes, no question about it. That's a really good way to look at it too.

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And the remaining 10% couldn't enjoy good acid if they tried......and that's virtually impossible.

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Hahaha! Combined with your avatar, that's classic!

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I realize a lot of people will not get this picture, but those that do will giggle for a while. I find it hysterical.
http://img.tapatalk.com/d/13/08/28/y9a4avad.jpg

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2011 my bad

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Didn't the same thing happen last year with Barrett Ruud? That went well!

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Will Smith is more of a man than many of you losers. Try to not be a disloyal fraction of mankind.

Many of you don't know who you are and won't realize this is a description of your loyalty and manhood. Danno the loser comes to mind. That is how pathetic some of you clearly are. You don't have a clue... much less about football.

Move to Atlanta if you're a disloyal piece of guano.

Two Dat.

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I'm disappointed to see that your vacation did not free you of all that pent up agression.