Haralson a Saint

Danno · 08-27-2013, 08:06 AM

Originally Posted by papz

If he makes the roster.

I'm guessing he will as we could use the experience but it'll probably come at the expense of Rufus Johnson... though he'll probably land on our practice squad.

I don't know about that. Rufus is basically a Jack LB. Haralson plays mostly SAM. Right now I'm thinking Rufus is 60/40 to make the roster.

Haralson allows Wilson and Galette to focus on playing the WOLB spot.

papz · 08-27-2013, 09:07 AM

Originally Posted by Danno

I don't know about that. Rufus is basically a Jack LB. Haralson plays mostly SAM. Right now I'm thinking Rufus is 60/40 to make the roster.

Haralson allows Wilson and Galette to focus on playing the WOLB spot.

How many LB'ers do you envision us keeping? If we keep 7, something is going to have to give. If we keep 8, his chances go up slightly... but I still don't see him making the team imo. My preference is to keep an extra lineman on either side of the ball or a secondary guy who excels on special teams than the extra linebacker. So if Haralson makes the team, for me, I just don't see it. But if we do go that route and keep an extra LB, I don't see Rufus helping us much out this year as opposed to some of the other LB's that are on the bubble. This isn't me knocking Rufus at all, I just don't feel he's ready to contribute which is why the PS imo, is the most logical scenario for both sides.

Danno · 08-27-2013, 09:15 AM

Originally Posted by papz

How many LB'ers do you envision us keeping? If we keep 7, something is going to have to give. If we keep 8, his chances go up slightly... but I still don't see him making the team imo. My preference is to keep an extra lineman on either side of the ball or a secondary guy who excels on special teams than the extra linebacker. So if Haralson makes the team, for me, I just don't see it. But if we do go that route and keep an extra LB, I don't see Rufus helping us much out this year as opposed to some of the other LB's that are on the bubble. This isn't me knocking Rufus at all, I just don't feel he's ready to contribute which is why the PS imo, is the most logical scenario for both sides.

In a 3-4 I can see us keeping 9, especially since it appears to be our weak spot. And LB's are typically very good ST'ers.

Here's my take so far...
ILB - David Hawthorne
ILB - Ramon Humber
ILB - Curtis Lofton
ILB - Kevin Reddick (or Jonathan Vilma if healthy)
OLB - Junior Galette
OLB - Rufus Johnson
OLB - Eric Martin (or Baraka Atkins, can't decide yet)
OLB - Parys Haralson
OLB - Martez Wilson

papz · 08-27-2013, 09:30 AM

Originally Posted by Danno

In a 3-4 I can see us keeping 9, especially since it appears to be our weak spot. And LB's are typically very good ST'ers.

Here's my take so far...
ILB - David Hawthorne
ILB - Ramon Humber
ILB - Curtis Lofton
ILB - Kevin Reddick (or Jonathan Vilma if healthy)
OLB - Junior Galette
OLB - Rufus Johnson
OLB - Eric Martin (or Baraka Atkins, can't decide yet)
OLB - Parys Haralson
OLB - Martez Wilson

If 9 ends up being the number, my feelings would definitely change. I'm looking at a Steelers roster projection and people anticipate them keeping 10 guys. I can't say I was familiar of how the position slot shakes up in a 3-4, so I'm just going to assume I may be wrong here regarding Rufus' likelihood of making the team... if the number is that high.

halloween 65 · 08-27-2013, 01:03 PM

Originally Posted by Danno

In a 3-4 I can see us keeping 9, especially since it appears to be our weak spot. And LB's are typically very good ST'ers.

Here's my take so far...
ILB - David Hawthorne
ILB - Ramon Humber
ILB - Curtis Lofton
ILB - Kevin Reddick (or Jonathan Vilma if healthy)
OLB - Junior Galette
OLB - Rufus Johnson
OLB - Eric Martin (or Baraka Atkins, can't decide yet)
OLB - Parys Haralson
OLB - Martez Wilson

With all I have read on Haralson he will beat out Junior or Wilson on the OLB starting spot, now if he does I would love to see Wilson on the ILB spot. If this guy is as good as they say he gives us a lot more flexability to move other lb's around. Here goes. ILB's Wilson, Hawthorn, Humber, and Reddick. OLB-Galette, Haralson, Martin, Johnson. Here me out on Rufus-Haralson would be an excellent mentor for this young man and possibly unleash his potential. I like Lofton very much and think he is one of the best MLB in a 4-3 in the game today but I would shop him as soon as possible to a 4-3 team.If we are going 3-4 I would not wait until next season to put the finishing touches on the front 7. We could get a real good deal with Lofton.

Saintswrath · 08-27-2013, 09:20 AM

Originally Posted by papz

How many LB'ers do you envision us keeping? If we keep 7, something is going to have to give. If we keep 8, his chances go up slightly... but I still don't see him making the team imo. My preference is to keep an extra lineman on either side of the ball or a secondary guy who excels on special teams than the extra linebacker. So if Haralson makes the team, for me, I just don't see it. But if we do go that route and keep an extra LB, I don't see Rufus helping us much out this year as opposed to some of the other LB's that are on the bubble. This isn't me knocking Rufus at all, I just don't feel he's ready to contribute which is why the PS imo, is the most logical scenario for both sides.

Probably same amount he's been getting paid, the pay usually transfers over unless player is at their final contract year then he can negotiate terms.
His pay with San Francisco was 2.4Mil

Budsdrinker · 08-27-2013, 09:33 AM

Originally Posted by Saintswrath

Probably same amount he's been getting paid, the pay usually transfers over unless player is at their final contract year then he can negotiate terms.
His pay with San Francisco was 2.4Mil

$1.3 mil, he re-did his contract to stay this year with niners. My only concern is if we moved this fast, Wilson or Gallette are not healing as quickly as the staff would like.

08-27-2013, 08:06 AM	#1
Danno Truth Addict Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: Spanish Fort, AL (via NO and B/R) Posts: 24,751	Re: Haralson a Saint Originally Posted by papz If he makes the roster. I'm guessing he will as we could use the experience but it'll probably come at the expense of Rufus Johnson... though he'll probably land on our practice squad. I don't know about that. Rufus is basically a Jack LB. Haralson plays mostly SAM. Right now I'm thinking Rufus is 60/40 to make the roster. Haralson allows Wilson and Galette to focus on playing the WOLB spot.

08-27-2013, 09:07 AM	#2
papz Problem? Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: New Orleans Posts: 11,774	Re: Haralson a Saint Originally Posted by Danno I don't know about that. Rufus is basically a Jack LB. Haralson plays mostly SAM. Right now I'm thinking Rufus is 60/40 to make the roster. Haralson allows Wilson and Galette to focus on playing the WOLB spot. How many LB'ers do you envision us keeping? If we keep 7, something is going to have to give. If we keep 8, his chances go up slightly... but I still don't see him making the team imo. My preference is to keep an extra lineman on either side of the ball or a secondary guy who excels on special teams than the extra linebacker. So if Haralson makes the team, for me, I just don't see it. But if we do go that route and keep an extra LB, I don't see Rufus helping us much out this year as opposed to some of the other LB's that are on the bubble. This isn't me knocking Rufus at all, I just don't feel he's ready to contribute which is why the PS imo, is the most logical scenario for both sides.
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08-27-2013, 09:15 AM	#3
Danno Truth Addict Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: Spanish Fort, AL (via NO and B/R) Posts: 24,751	Re: Haralson a Saint Originally Posted by papz How many LB'ers do you envision us keeping? If we keep 7, something is going to have to give. If we keep 8, his chances go up slightly... but I still don't see him making the team imo. My preference is to keep an extra lineman on either side of the ball or a secondary guy who excels on special teams than the extra linebacker. So if Haralson makes the team, for me, I just don't see it. But if we do go that route and keep an extra LB, I don't see Rufus helping us much out this year as opposed to some of the other LB's that are on the bubble. This isn't me knocking Rufus at all, I just don't feel he's ready to contribute which is why the PS imo, is the most logical scenario for both sides. In a 3-4 I can see us keeping 9, especially since it appears to be our weak spot. And LB's are typically very good ST'ers. Here's my take so far... ILB - David Hawthorne ILB - Ramon Humber ILB - Curtis Lofton ILB - Kevin Reddick (or Jonathan Vilma if healthy) OLB - Junior Galette OLB - Rufus Johnson OLB - Eric Martin (or Baraka Atkins, can't decide yet) OLB - Parys Haralson OLB - Martez Wilson Halo likes this.

08-27-2013, 09:30 AM	#4
papz Problem? Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: New Orleans Posts: 11,774	Re: Haralson a Saint Originally Posted by Danno In a 3-4 I can see us keeping 9, especially since it appears to be our weak spot. And LB's are typically very good ST'ers. Here's my take so far... ILB - David Hawthorne ILB - Ramon Humber ILB - Curtis Lofton ILB - Kevin Reddick (or Jonathan Vilma if healthy) OLB - Junior Galette OLB - Rufus Johnson OLB - Eric Martin (or Baraka Atkins, can't decide yet) OLB - Parys Haralson OLB - Martez Wilson If 9 ends up being the number, my feelings would definitely change. I'm looking at a Steelers roster projection and people anticipate them keeping 10 guys. I can't say I was familiar of how the position slot shakes up in a 3-4, so I'm just going to assume I may be wrong here regarding Rufus' likelihood of making the team... if the number is that high.

08-27-2013, 01:03 PM	#5
halloween 65 5000 POSTS! + Join Date: Sep 2011 Location: Grand Haven, Michigan by way of a little Mississippi River town in Louisiana Posts: 5,893	Re: Haralson a Saint Originally Posted by Danno In a 3-4 I can see us keeping 9, especially since it appears to be our weak spot. And LB's are typically very good ST'ers. Here's my take so far... ILB - David Hawthorne ILB - Ramon Humber ILB - Curtis Lofton ILB - Kevin Reddick (or Jonathan Vilma if healthy) OLB - Junior Galette OLB - Rufus Johnson OLB - Eric Martin (or Baraka Atkins, can't decide yet) OLB - Parys Haralson OLB - Martez Wilson With all I have read on Haralson he will beat out Junior or Wilson on the OLB starting spot, now if he does I would love to see Wilson on the ILB spot. If this guy is as good as they say he gives us a lot more flexability to move other lb's around. Here goes. ILB's Wilson, Hawthorn, Humber, and Reddick. OLB-Galette, Haralson, Martin, Johnson. Here me out on Rufus-Haralson would be an excellent mentor for this young man and possibly unleash his potential. I like Lofton very much and think he is one of the best MLB in a 4-3 in the game today but I would shop him as soon as possible to a 4-3 team.If we are going 3-4 I would not wait until next season to put the finishing touches on the front 7. We could get a real good deal with Lofton.

08-27-2013, 09:20 AM	#6
Saintswrath +Mod Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: Between 504 & 813 Posts: 1,776 Blog Entries: 4	Re: Haralson a Saint Originally Posted by papz How many LB'ers do you envision us keeping? If we keep 7, something is going to have to give. If we keep 8, his chances go up slightly... but I still don't see him making the team imo. My preference is to keep an extra lineman on either side of the ball or a secondary guy who excels on special teams than the extra linebacker. So if Haralson makes the team, for me, I just don't see it. But if we do go that route and keep an extra LB, I don't see Rufus helping us much out this year as opposed to some of the other LB's that are on the bubble. This isn't me knocking Rufus at all, I just don't feel he's ready to contribute which is why the PS imo, is the most logical scenario for both sides. Probably same amount he's been getting paid, the pay usually transfers over unless player is at their final contract year then he can negotiate terms. His pay with San Francisco was 2.4Mil

08-27-2013, 09:33 AM	#7
Budsdrinker A Cajun Transforming TX Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: The Woodlands, Texas Posts: 2,787	Re: Haralson a Saint Originally Posted by Saintswrath Probably same amount he's been getting paid, the pay usually transfers over unless player is at their final contract year then he can negotiate terms. His pay with San Francisco was 2.4Mil $1.3 mil, he re-did his contract to stay this year with niners. My only concern is if we moved this fast, Wilson or Gallette are not healing as quickly as the staff would like.

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