Ouch....

xan · 08-28-2013, 08:51 AM

Originally Posted by thebdj

Say for example, an NFL approved doctor with no team ties has to perform the diagnosis and if someone is truly out for a season then you get a percentage of their cap hit back. You could even only make that 20-30% which is then not a reason for sending down a massive player on purpose.

This is an interesting proposition, if it could be adjudicated fairly. The problem is the massive grey area of diagnosis and prognosis.

How about having more players on the roster with the same cap?

This will have the effect of forcing down wages, reducing the effect of any one player having a catastrophic impact on the financials, as well as having more players to rotate in, reducing fatigue, which is the biggest contributor to injuries (aside from questionable hits).

Vrillon82 · 08-27-2013, 09:29 PM

my theory on the ACL injuries is what I have targeted Jim and John Harbaugh of doing the last 2-3 years as a coach.

That is teaching players techniques that intentionally injure players, its not necessarily limited to only targeting knees which lead to it that is being taught by these coaches though. But we saw a glimpse of it in the 49ers/Vikings game.

If you have looked over the past years with Harbaughs coaching (thus far in the NFL), theirs this tendency that players are taking out key players of the opposing side quite often.

This is why I think the ACL injury has been so persistent lately, its not just harbaughs coaching it either, but they are prime examples in my book.

jeanpierre · 08-27-2013, 11:31 PM

John Clayton is the NFL's answer to The Cooler...

...the Seventh Fleet could pull into port after being at sea for six months and this man's image on a port entry billboard could cause mass impotence...

...it's fitting his check comes from ESPN...

RockyMountainSaint · 08-27-2013, 11:48 PM

HGH
Bigger, faster, stronger is good if the joints can hold up to it.

They cannot.

RaginCajun83 · 08-28-2013, 12:21 AM

Originally Posted by RockyMountainSaint

HGH
Bigger, faster, stronger is good if the joints can hold up to it.

They cannot.

Keep wondering which NFL player is going to get busted first? Watt? AP?

TheOak · 08-28-2013, 03:28 AM

Originally Posted by RockyMountainSaint

HGH
Bigger, faster, stronger is good if the joints can hold up to it.

They cannot.

HGH is not an anabolic steroid and doesn't make you bigger, stronger, faster; unless you want to wait 4 years.

HGH speeds the healing and recovery time.

Halo · 08-28-2013, 12:23 AM

I want some HGH. It's not even illegal in my profession.
I bet it's easier to get HGH in the NFL than on the street!

QBREES9 · 08-28-2013, 06:20 AM

HGH speeds the healing and recovery time.
I could use some.

SloMotion · 08-28-2013, 06:49 AM

Originally Posted by lee909

With the amount of players getting ACL injuries they need to do something about both looking into the sudden increase of the injury,i have my thoughts why.Also if teams should receive cap relief when players miss the season with injuries.

That's what I'm talking about, ACL injuries are out of control throughout the entire league, they need to remedy that ... don't know about the cap relief angle though, if the teams don't lose any value associated with that injury, they'll never move to investigate/eliminate the source of the injuries.

Originally Posted by Halo

I want some HGH. It's not even illegal in my profession.
I bet it's easier to get HGH in the NFL than on the street!

Originally Posted by QBREES9

HGH speeds the healing and recovery time.
I could use some.

Just do a search for "grow young with HGH" and get over 2million results, it's everywhere. I see advertisements in VFW magazine for some place in New York selling the stuff, so yeah, it's not illegal? Not evaluated by the FDA either, but what does that mean anymore?

skymike · 08-28-2013, 08:27 AM

Originally Posted by QBREES9

HGH speeds the healing and recovery time.
I could use some.

wonder what it does for hangovers?

08-28-2013, 08:51 AM	#1
xan Professor Crab and Site Donor 2014 Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: Princeton Posts: 3,373 Blog Entries: 34	Re: Ouch.... Originally Posted by thebdj Say for example, an NFL approved doctor with no team ties has to perform the diagnosis and if someone is truly out for a season then you get a percentage of their cap hit back. You could even only make that 20-30% which is then not a reason for sending down a massive player on purpose. This is an interesting proposition, if it could be adjudicated fairly. The problem is the massive grey area of diagnosis and prognosis. How about having more players on the roster with the same cap? This will have the effect of forcing down wages, reducing the effect of any one player having a catastrophic impact on the financials, as well as having more players to rotate in, reducing fatigue, which is the biggest contributor to injuries (aside from questionable hits).

08-27-2013, 09:29 PM	#2
Vrillon82 1000 Posts + Join Date: Aug 2012 Posts: 1,127	Re: Ouch.... my theory on the ACL injuries is what I have targeted Jim and John Harbaugh of doing the last 2-3 years as a coach. That is teaching players techniques that intentionally injure players, its not necessarily limited to only targeting knees which lead to it that is being taught by these coaches though. But we saw a glimpse of it in the 49ers/Vikings game. If you have looked over the past years with Harbaughs coaching (thus far in the NFL), theirs this tendency that players are taking out key players of the opposing side quite often. This is why I think the ACL injury has been so persistent lately, its not just harbaughs coaching it either, but they are prime examples in my book.
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TheOak 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Dec 2009 Location: Cypress Tx. Posts: 19,059	Re: Ouch.... Originally Posted by RockyMountainSaint HGH Bigger, faster, stronger is good if the joints can hold up to it. They cannot. HGH is not an anabolic steroid and doesn't make you bigger, stronger, faster; unless you want to wait 4 years. HGH speeds the healing and recovery time.

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SloMotion 5000 POSTS! + Join Date: Jan 2012 Posts: 6,776 Blog Entries: 15	Re: Ouch.... Originally Posted by lee909 With the amount of players getting ACL injuries they need to do something about both looking into the sudden increase of the injury,i have my thoughts why.Also if teams should receive cap relief when players miss the season with injuries. That's what I'm talking about, ACL injuries are out of control throughout the entire league, they need to remedy that ... don't know about the cap relief angle though, if the teams don't lose any value associated with that injury, they'll never move to investigate/eliminate the source of the injuries. Originally Posted by Halo I want some HGH. It's not even illegal in my profession. I bet it's easier to get HGH in the NFL than on the street! Originally Posted by QBREES9 HGH speeds the healing and recovery time. I could use some. Just do a search for "grow young with HGH" and get over 2million results, it's everywhere. I see advertisements in VFW magazine for some place in New York selling the stuff, so yeah, it's not illegal? Not evaluated by the FDA either, but what does that mean anymore? SmashMouth and Rugby Saint II like this.

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