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I'm always happy for a win, no matter how we do it, and yesterday's win was an INCREDIBLE start to the season. The defense played well enough to win and that's important, but I'm still worried about the offense. 23 points doesn't win a lot of games in a league that's getting more and more like Arena Football. There were a lot of low scoring games yesterday though. Next up is the yucks who totally shot themselves in the foot yesterday and pulled defeat out of the jaws of victory with an insanely stupid play, but the kind of play we've become accustomed to with schiano as their head coach.. We'll know more this time next week.

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The offense will get in sync and get their timing together; Drew's too competitive not to.

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I can't believe someone is actually worried about our offense. Our offense. Really?

Well come to think of it, it's not surprising at all. What's next on the checklist to complain about?

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Poydras is a worry wart.

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What worried me yesterday was how Drew under threw a lot of passes.
His pick was under thrown, had Stills wide open for what could have been 6 but Stills had to wait on the ball and it was broken up. Hopefully it was just a one day thing and Drew hasn't lost some arm strength.

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I don't expect perfection but I do worry about under thrown passes that leads to turnovers and missed opportunities. It wasn't just one pass. It was several. Even the completed passes had receivers going to the ground to make the catch when they could have made extra yardage if the ball had a little more on it. Now was it because of being under pressure, I'm not 100% sure and will need to look at the replay but sitting in the dome yesterday I saw several under thrown balls.

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The Stills under throw could have been a timing issue... I can see Drew still working out the window for Stills and i can also see Stills adrenalin at 150% because of where he was and the whole first NFL game etc... Once he gets comfortable i hope the timing gets better.

Honestly, against Atlanta in the dome, my fat azz could run a 4.2s 40 for one of Drews passes with nothing but goal line in front of me also :).. So if I could have run a 4.2s then Kenny was running a 2.9s 40:bng:

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Drew has never had a big arm. His timing was off thats all. The INT was just a great play by the DB and the other under-throws were timing issues considering they were all to stills.

Rhythm and timing is tough for an offense to get down. A new running scheme and new receivers means growing pains for the first few weeks.

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Bye week rust.

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I thought yesterday looked to me like a LOT of other Saints games from the past (especially 2010, it seemed to happen a lot then) where the offense kinda does a Rip Van Winkle, and goes to sleep for a while, for a quarter or so, then it suddenly wakes up and says "Oh, gee, I almost forgot, we're AWESOME" and then they just turn on the jets again and start humming.

I remember the quote from Aaron Kromer last year, that the Saints offense historically tends to be, it's either a three-and-out, or it's points. Historically that is the pattern they have observed.

Obviously, in theory the coaches want to score every time they have the ball, and are never satisfied with anything....in theory....but in reality, that pattern is okay by them, as long as they DO score a lot of points and as long as they can limit the three-and-outs.


But historically, in terms of the offense, once they get that first first down in a drive, or maybe the second first down, then it's usually off to the races from there on.

This was Sunday, BTW:

Itals: Three and outs (or close to it)
Bold = Points

01:34 - 4 plays 19 yards Punt
03:07 6 palys 23 yds Downs
05:35 12 plays 50 yds Field Goal
01:26 3 plays 31 yds Touchdown
04:02 6 plays 67 yds Field Goal
00:30 2plays 7 yards End of Half
01:08 3 plays -9 yards Punt
05:19 10 plays 80 yds Touchdown
00:08 1 play 0 Intercepted Pass ----
04:53 10 plays 55 yds Punt ---> In a way, this and the INT are the only times they truly "failed" all day
06:12 10 68 yds Field Goal
00:43 2 plays -2 End of Game

If either of those two in red had been POINTS, they would have had a ratio of almost exactly 2 to 1 between scores and punts/3 and outs.

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Wow, another close one. I kinda had this one penciled in as a win but I didn't know we'd be playing under those conditions. Three yards in one game and 5 seconds in another separate us from being 0-2 instead of 2-0 so I'm still in a "we'll see" mode as to what this team is going to do. I think I'll know more after seeing them play this weekend. No hate-fest rivalry, no first game jitters, no inclement weather and sitting around in the locker room getting stiff after warm-ups; just a normal game at a normal time in the Super Dome against a pretty good opponent.

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The only trouble I see are that injuries are piling up, and fast.

If we had just a normal amount of dinged up players we're an easy 2-0, probably double digit wins in both games.

You could see the D-line running out of gas in the 4th quarter. How they managed to keep fighting was amazing to me and they deserve major respect, and a day off.

Arizona is gameplanning to exploit our injured d-line as we speak.

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Good teams find a way to win these kinds of games.

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Arizona is a dangerous team ... they ran a few trick plays yesterday with good results ... they're streaky, play good special teams, lead the NFL in blocked punts/FGA (I think), Patrick Peterson played both ways well at CB/WR except he did have problems with Megatron, a banged-up Larry Fitzgerald still managed to score and Kerry Taylor? from the practice squad has stepped up nicely ... Palmer is looking pretty comfortable in the pocket for a change and they have a very serviceable running game with Mendenhall ... the young guys on their D (honey-badger-don't-care, :)) looked pretty good as well.

All-in-all, I think my early season observations that the Cards were a team easily dismissed may have been a little hasty ... if this game wasn't being played in the Dome, I may have had to go with ARI, :neutral:.

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Multiple choice question

The Saints offense (points/game) ranks
A-6th
B-23rd

The Saints defense (points/game) ranks
A-23rd
B-6th

Any other year A is the correct answer, not this year so far.

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It's like 'bizarro world' seeing the Saints defense in the top ten & the Saints offense in the bottom third, :shock:

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There's no way to assess either the offense or the defense based on the first two games. Look at what happened to the 49ers last night after a similar weather delay. They came back out and had nothing.

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I agree and I'm just thinking when was the last time (post Dome Patrol) the Saints defense ever ranked higher then the Saints offense ... IDK what happened to the 49'ers and I certainly did not expect/predict something like that would happen, but I certainly enjoyed it, :lol:. Gotta' give Seattle credit though, :mrgreen:.

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I just wonder.... Are we still in trouble.

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But seriously, has Drew Brees lost a step in the game?
Should we be looking for a replacement/trying our second string?




(sarcasm)

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Something is wrong with his arm. He's too old and he makes too much money. If we kept Nix and Bushrod we'd be able to run the ball and it's all because Brees is a greedy S.o.B who doesn't care about this team.

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I want my moneys worth out of that contract.
Don't know if he can throw the deep ball.

Is Tevaris Jackson still available? What about Jamarcus Russell?




:dunce:

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Maybe we should trade for Freeman !?!?! :confused:

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All joking aside; I bet Freeman could be pretty good with Payton coaching... :bng:

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If Freeman would be pretty good I can only imagine what Matty ice would be.

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IDK, Freeman is looking like the kind of QB that needs constant reassurance from his coach/organization, ie a blankie & a bottle, sorta' like he's never got past the days when mom & dad were on the sidelines always telling him how good he was. Is Freeman the kind of QB that could take a head-coach-less team through a season and win almost half their games?

You gotta' be strong to be the Saints QB.

... still "melty", :lol:.

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Foundation of a D can come from anywhere. Its what you do with the players you have. LB's DE's Safteies... you put the right players in the right situations and let them make plays.

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This is why they play the games.

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You;re still joking...

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I heard he voluntarily entered the NFL drug program. Does that mean he get's 'em for free now?

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Does he have to turn up for a photo shoot or a meeting, because that doesn't work out for him at all

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Grubbs is certainly no carl nicks and fins DT embarrassed DLP and grubbs yesterday

Drew makes the O line look better because he has fantastic pocket presence, the glaring weakness shows up when we try to run the ball, which is strange because grubbs came from a run first team

I think its the zone blocking scheme, our personel doesnt look fit for it

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Well... are we still in trouble? Will we even make the playoffs? Are we even remotely worthy?

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And we still struggled yesterday in the power game, gotta question paying that much for those results...

If Saints offense wasn't so clutch on those short passes, we'd be in trouble...

Right now, I'm questioning how much we paid for Grubbs...

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We're 5-0 and you think I'm going to jinx us by changing my prediction?!?!?

I'm going to pick us to lose every game from now on!

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:lolup: what ever it takes. your a sport to take one on the chin for the team