Marshall Faulk's Bold Prediction!!!

ClintSaints · 09-05-2013, 08:12 AM

Originally Posted by SmashMouth

I always liked Marshall ...

Btw... What was our final preseason defensive ranking?

We were 8th overall.

cmsaint · 09-05-2013, 09:03 AM

I love you Marshall but you should have filed a concussion lawsuit.

Might sneak into the teens on total D.

O will be top 5 as usual.

Danno · 09-05-2013, 10:04 AM

Its only an 8 spot jump from our 2011 ranking when we had a similar style defense with less talent.

Not that shocking.

Saintaintso · 09-05-2013, 10:21 AM

Well in theory , Marshall has seen more of the saints than we have . If I recall correctly he was present for many public and private practices for the saints. Perhaps Rob and Peyton have kept it under the radar ...

I mean we've gotten the updates from training camp , reports saying our defense repeatedly bested our offense ... Maybe there is something to that !

If there were any meaningful snaps taken This preseason they were against the AFC dominant Texans of which we saw our 1st and 2nd team defense perform much better than last years defense . We also saw a rookie Kenny stills moss a pro bowl corner with one hand ...

We are running a 3-3-5 for anyone that is concerned about our defense , which puts our depth at safety and lb to use ... It would also give roman Harper a real chance to succeed in this defense

If we make a concerted effort to run the ball and ingram looks like the Bama version our defense will instantly jump 10 spots with being better rested and not being on the field for the majority of the game.

Judging by his comments , he must have us going undefeated

lee909 · 09-05-2013, 10:29 AM

Until proven otherwise we have the best defense in the league

SapperSaint · 09-05-2013, 10:55 AM

Originally Posted by xan

coalescing

You gotta dumb things down for me just a bit, brother.

Those $2 words hurt my brain.

spkb25 · 09-05-2013, 11:14 AM

24 or less ppg is all I care about

SaintsBro · 09-05-2013, 11:57 AM

I'd like to hear valid reasons why it's NOT possible or not within the realm of possibility.

I keep harping on it -- people here are so spooked about this "worst defense in history" thing -- and it was that -- but it was not actually AS BAD as it really was. If that makes any sense.

Don't let anybody hang that "worst in history" tag on you THIS YEAR, before we play a single snap.

It was the worst in history because those guys rebelled and QUIT on Spagnowedon't. It was an implosion in the locker room. And Spagnowedon't had no answers and no adjustments and couldn't deal with his own mess. And there wasn't a HEAD COACH with the real authority to step in and sort it out and get it back on track. Which would normally happen. So players checked out and phoned it in, and Spagnowedont's much touted "system" never arrived and was never even delivered.

Last season was NOT just another normal day at the office for the Saints. It was more similar to the infamous 1-15 season in 1980, where the whole team gave up on the coach Dick Nolan, than to any season under Sean Payton (and thankfully, they were the "worst defense in history" last year without all the coke they did in 1980).

TheOak · 09-05-2013, 01:06 PM

Reality check for all of us...

How much about what Rob Ryan and our defense are going to actually do this season do we know?

Preseason was Blues Brothers 2000, and practice was 80% closed to the public after week 1 of the preseason.

We can hypothesize all day about every possible scenario but we have a what.... 50% probability of being close to accurate? At best 60%?

Even a 20% unknown factor can be very disruptive to an offense.

Danno · 09-05-2013, 01:27 PM

Originally Posted by SaintsBro

I'd like to hear valid reasons why it's NOT possible or not within the realm of possibility.

I keep harping on it -- people here are so spooked about this "worst defense in history" thing -- and it was that -- but it was not actually AS BAD as it really was. If that makes any sense.

Don't let anybody hang that "worst in history" tag on you THIS YEAR, before we play a single snap.

It was the worst in history because those guys rebelled and QUIT on Spagnowedon't. It was an implosion in the locker room. And Spagnowedon't had no answers and no adjustments and couldn't deal with his own mess. And there wasn't a HEAD COACH with the real authority to step in and sort it out and get it back on track. Which would normally happen. So players checked out and phoned it in, and Spagnowedont's much touted "system" never arrived and was never even delivered.

Last season was NOT just another normal day at the office for the Saints. It was more similar to the infamous 1-15 season in 1980, where the whole team gave up on the coach Dick Nolan, than to any season under Sean Payton (and thankfully, they were the "worst defense in history" last year without all the coke they did in 1980).

I didn't see one single player quit or phone it in. I saw a rudderless ship. The players were trying and trying hard, they just had a lousy system. Its a testament to the high character types we focus on acquiring. The players just weren't a good fit for the scheme and confusion reigned supreme all year long.

But not one single player checked out or phoned it in.

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Danno Truth Addict Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: Spanish Fort, AL (via NO and B/R) Posts: 24,723	Re: Marshall Faulk's Bold Prediction!!! Originally Posted by SaintsBro I'd like to hear valid reasons why it's NOT possible or not within the realm of possibility. I keep harping on it -- people here are so spooked about this "worst defense in history" thing -- and it was that -- but it was not actually AS BAD as it really was. If that makes any sense. Don't let anybody hang that "worst in history" tag on you THIS YEAR, before we play a single snap. It was the worst in history because those guys rebelled and QUIT on Spagnowedon't. It was an implosion in the locker room. And Spagnowedon't had no answers and no adjustments and couldn't deal with his own mess. And there wasn't a HEAD COACH with the real authority to step in and sort it out and get it back on track. Which would normally happen. So players checked out and phoned it in, and Spagnowedont's much touted "system" never arrived and was never even delivered. Last season was NOT just another normal day at the office for the Saints. It was more similar to the infamous 1-15 season in 1980, where the whole team gave up on the coach Dick Nolan, than to any season under Sean Payton (and thankfully, they were the "worst defense in history" last year without all the coke they did in 1980). I didn't see one single player quit or phone it in. I saw a rudderless ship. The players were trying and trying hard, they just had a lousy system. Its a testament to the high character types we focus on acquiring. The players just weren't a good fit for the scheme and confusion reigned supreme all year long. But not one single player checked out or phoned it in.

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