Saints cheap shots on Matty Lice??

cmike · 09-08-2013, 07:42 PM

I watched the game with a bunch of Falcons fans and they were upset. But after multiple replays they ALL agreed, hey what was Vaccaro to do. He was already going in to make the tackle and Matt slid just before the contact. It was a bang bang play. Should Vaccaro have been flagged? Yes. Was it dirty? Not sure. Judging by the play, it happened so fast that he just committed with his follow through.

I put more blame on Matt though, if your gonna slide get down sooner to protect yourself. Drew ran once and slide with no defender within 10 yards. Protect yourself Matt and stop trying to squeak out every yard.

Beastmode · 09-08-2013, 08:05 PM

Originally Posted by cmike

I put more blame on Matt though, if your gonna slide get down sooner to protect yourself. Drew ran once and slide with no defender within 10 yards. Protect yourself Matt and stop trying to squeak out every yard.

Peyton Manning was notorious for trying to squeeze out every last inch and basically crawl into the slide for a couple more yards. Either go down immediately or be prepared to get nailed penalty or no penalty.

I think the NFL changed the rule because of him that you are down where you start but not sure. Defenders should not have to pull back the second they go into the motion is how I see it. 30 degree angle or 5 degrees with the ground it should not matter. Until you are on the ground it's open season on the QB.

Vrillon82 · 09-08-2013, 08:56 PM

Originally Posted by Beastmode

Peyton Manning was notorious for trying to squeeze out every last inch and basically crawl into the slide for a couple more yards. Either go down immediately or be prepared to get nailed penalty or no penalty.

I think the NFL changed the rule because of him that you are down where you start but not sure. Defenders should not have to pull back the second they go into the motion is how I see it. 30 degree angle or 5 degrees with the ground it should not matter. Until you are on the ground it's open season on the QB.

You down where you start has been a rule for years, most likely enforced during the Steve Young years.

The Dude · 09-08-2013, 09:24 PM

Originally Posted by Beastmode

Peyton Manning was notorious for trying to squeeze out every last inch and basically crawl into the slide for a couple more yards. Either go down immediately or be prepared to get nailed penalty or no penalty.

I think the NFL changed the rule because of him that you are down where you start but not sure. Defenders should not have to pull back the second they go into the motion is how I see it. 30 degree angle or 5 degrees with the ground it should not matter. Until you are on the ground it's open season on the QB.

I couldnt see who it was but I saw one of our defenders flat out stop to a stand still to keep from hitting Ryan, he was right in his face and Ryan still had the ball. Had he kept going Ryan would have been crushed and it would have been legal.
These rules are making these defenders scared to do their jobs.
Seriously our guy just ran up to him and stopped right in his face and just threw his arms up like he was trying to scare him. It was actuallly kind of funny.
Anyone else see this?

09-08-2013, 07:42 PM	#1
cmike 1000 Posts + Join Date: Oct 2010 Location: Gulfport Posts: 1,449	Re: Saints cheap shots on Matty Lice?? I watched the game with a bunch of Falcons fans and they were upset. But after multiple replays they ALL agreed, hey what was Vaccaro to do. He was already going in to make the tackle and Matt slid just before the contact. It was a bang bang play. Should Vaccaro have been flagged? Yes. Was it dirty? Not sure. Judging by the play, it happened so fast that he just committed with his follow through. I put more blame on Matt though, if your gonna slide get down sooner to protect yourself. Drew ran once and slide with no defender within 10 yards. Protect yourself Matt and stop trying to squeak out every yard. Halo, SmashMouth and jlouhill like this.

09-08-2013, 08:05 PM	#2
Beastmode 5000 POSTS! + Join Date: Jul 2010 Posts: 9,126	Re: Saints cheap shots on Matty Lice?? Originally Posted by cmike I put more blame on Matt though, if your gonna slide get down sooner to protect yourself. Drew ran once and slide with no defender within 10 yards. Protect yourself Matt and stop trying to squeak out every yard. Peyton Manning was notorious for trying to squeeze out every last inch and basically crawl into the slide for a couple more yards. Either go down immediately or be prepared to get nailed penalty or no penalty. I think the NFL changed the rule because of him that you are down where you start but not sure. Defenders should not have to pull back the second they go into the motion is how I see it. 30 degree angle or 5 degrees with the ground it should not matter. Until you are on the ground it's open season on the QB.
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09-08-2013, 08:56 PM	#3
Vrillon82 1000 Posts + Join Date: Aug 2012 Posts: 1,127	Re: Saints cheap shots on Matty Lice?? Originally Posted by Beastmode Peyton Manning was notorious for trying to squeeze out every last inch and basically crawl into the slide for a couple more yards. Either go down immediately or be prepared to get nailed penalty or no penalty. I think the NFL changed the rule because of him that you are down where you start but not sure. Defenders should not have to pull back the second they go into the motion is how I see it. 30 degree angle or 5 degrees with the ground it should not matter. Until you are on the ground it's open season on the QB. You down where you start has been a rule for years, most likely enforced during the Steve Young years.
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09-08-2013, 09:24 PM	#4
The Dude 5000 POSTS! + Join Date: Jul 2011 Posts: 9,076	Re: Saints cheap shots on Matty Lice?? Originally Posted by Beastmode Peyton Manning was notorious for trying to squeeze out every last inch and basically crawl into the slide for a couple more yards. Either go down immediately or be prepared to get nailed penalty or no penalty. I think the NFL changed the rule because of him that you are down where you start but not sure. Defenders should not have to pull back the second they go into the motion is how I see it. 30 degree angle or 5 degrees with the ground it should not matter. Until you are on the ground it's open season on the QB. I couldnt see who it was but I saw one of our defenders flat out stop to a stand still to keep from hitting Ryan, he was right in his face and Ryan still had the ball. Had he kept going Ryan would have been crushed and it would have been legal. These rules are making these defenders scared to do their jobs. Seriously our guy just ran up to him and stopped right in his face and just threw his arms up like he was trying to scare him. It was actuallly kind of funny. Anyone else see this?
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