Re: There May Be Mark Ingram to Giant Rumors
 

May be? Where ya been hoss?

http://blackandgold.com/saints/59885...lks-rumor.html

Re: There May Be Mark Ingram to Giant Rumors
 

Its pretty obvious watching the game.

When Ingram got the hand-off he was met by 3 defenders 2 yards behind the LOS.

When Thomas got the hand-off he was NOT met by 3 defenders 2 yards behind the LOS.


It may not be the O-line's fault, but it isn't Ingram's.

Re: There May Be Mark Ingram to Giant Rumors
 

ok let me get this straight

the offense will get us there not the defense

your happy to trade Ingram before the trade dead line and go with two vets and two unproven backs for the season.

your nuts in my book.

unless the is a vet FA out there we can add to one of the most complex offense systems in the NFL and not really miss a beat. there are a few out there.

Willis McGahee
Beanie Wells
Cedric Benson
Kevin Smith
Michael Turner
Brandon Jacobs

to name a few

plus you would be doing ingram a huge favor moving him to the NYG. their OL is built for his style of running. plus they will abuse him

Re: There May Be Mark Ingram to Giant Rumors
 

First thing I thought, when I tuned into the Giants Cowboys last night.

Re: There May Be Mark Ingram to Giant Rumors
 

When Ingram goes in there is nothing to keep the defense honest and they crash hard after him. If we can see this I know Sean Payton can see this... May be setting up defenses for fakes to Ingram to open up something bigger. Sean Payton knows his tools and is brilliant, he also knows that the first few weeks of game tape will be watched over and over across the league.

Re: There May Be Mark Ingram to Giant Rumors
 

Thomas is a more patient RB and that makes all the difference. Ingram doesn't seem to have the same vision, hopefully this improves as the season progresses if he stays healthy.

Re: There May Be Mark Ingram to Giant Rumors
 

My best guess is that Ingram gets worse... Only because he is frustrated and will try to force things.. Doing that is the opposite of exercising vision and he will torpedo him self.

He is starting to pitch little fits at the end of runs and the camera guys know it, that's why they stay on him after his runs... I hope he can control himself until he either gets over his hump or leaves New Orleans.. We do not need any penalties because of it.

Re: There May Be Mark Ingram to Giant Rumors
 

Trading Ingram has my vote. Id rather have a draft pick in next years draft.I rather have Thomas carrying the load.

Re: There May Be Mark Ingram to Giant Rumors
 

I agree, it's not the OL or Ingrams fault. Its STILL the coach's fault. Did they even throw a pass to Ingram? The Falcons just went off of what they saw last year, which was when Ingram is in, it's a run. The coach's did nothing to change that way of thought.

When PT is in there, they don't know if it's a run or pass. I thought the coaching staff finally understood this in the pre-season but apparently not. The more they only put Ingram in to run, the longer it's going to be before he is effective.

Re: There May Be Mark Ingram to Giant Rumors
 

Love ya like a brother but your boy Ivory had 10 carries for only 15 yards yesterday.
If all you do is run the ball with certain personnel in, defenses will stack the box and stop the run. Until Ingram is involved more in the passing game he will be ineffective.