Remember the last time we started the season 10 spots behind the falcons?

SaintGup · 09-11-2013, 12:36 PM

Originally Posted by poydras

Unlike the NCAA, rankings mean absolutely ZILCH in the NFL. Why does everyone get so wrapped up with them? If you pull up enough of those you'll probably find the cleveland browns with a #1 ranking somewhere.

Sorry, but though I agree with you on the value of the rankings...
...in some parallel universes, black is white, male is female, if you're fat you will be thin and up is down BUT my friend, The Browns will always be the Browns, no matter what one you travel to.

poydras · 09-11-2013, 12:50 PM

Originally Posted by SaintGup

Sorry, but though I agree with you on the value of the rankings...
...in some parallel universes, black is white, male is female, if you're fat you will be thin and up is down BUT my friend, The Browns will always be the Browns, no matter what one you travel to.

That's what they said about the Saints until 2009.

The point is that NFL rankings are meaningless and getting all upset about them is a waste of time. Like the original poster said, we were 18 going into the 2009 season and we won the Super Bowl. I'm guessing the two seasons before that, we were ranked high and didn't even make the playoffs and then the year before that which was 2006, we were probably ranked 32nd and went to the NFC championship game.

Utah_Saint · 09-11-2013, 01:29 PM

Originally Posted by poydras

That's what they said about the Saints until 2009.

The point is that NFL rankings are meaningless and getting all upset about them is a waste of time. Like the original poster said, we were 18 going into the 2009 season and we won the Super Bowl. I'm guessing the two seasons before that, we were ranked high and didn't even make the playoffs and then the year before that which was 2006, we were probably ranked 32nd and went to the NFC championship game.

I guess I'm still missing the point. Sorry, sometimes I'm a little slow on the uptake.

Are you suggesting the rest of us stop posting about team rankings? Or are you just making a general announcement to the world that you don't like them?

You're 100% correct that these rankings have no effect on whether the Saints will make the Super Bowl. You are also correct that they are in no way a substitute for the NFL championship, which is the ultimate goal of the team. And I'm with you when you say you'd rather get respect by dancing with the Lombardi. But it's not an "either or" situation.

Some of us enjoy reading about how the so called "experts" compare us to other teams and their reasoning behind it. Sometimes we agree with the rankings, sometimes we don't. They're only meant to inspire thought and discussion. It's really not much different than what we do on this site. We discuss team strengths and weaknesses, successes and failures, but in the end, our discussions are merey our opinions so therefore, they're kinda meaningless as well. In the end, it's all about having fun.

poydras · 09-11-2013, 01:57 PM

Originally Posted by Utah_Saint

Are you suggesting the rest of us stop posting about team rankings? Or are you just making a general announcement to the world that you don't like them?

No. Post away. Are you saying that I shouldn't suggest that people not obsess over them? ... and no. I don't care about them one way or the other because they're totally meaningless and knowing our CBS, ESPN, whatever ranking, is only marginally more important than knowing the number of power poles between my home and the Super Dome.

SaintGup · 09-11-2013, 02:16 PM

Originally Posted by poydras

No. Post away. Are you saying that I shouldn't suggest that people not obsess over them? ... and no. I don't care about them one way or the other because they're totally meaningless and knowing our CBS, ESPN, whatever ranking, is only marginally more important than knowing the number of power poles between my home and the Super Dome.

So let me see...are you saying we can't say that people want to say stuff about saying what other people want to say? If so, then I fear that saying what should be said instead of what people want to hear said will lead to saying things that have been said just to say it for saying it's sake. That's what my friend said he said anyway.

Utah_Saint · 09-11-2013, 02:17 PM

Originally Posted by poydras

Are you saying that I shouldn't suggest that people not obsess over them?

No, I wouldn't do that. And I apologize if I came across that way. I honestly didn't intend to. I respect your opinion.

09-11-2013, 12:50 PM	#2
poydras Team Doctor Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: Deep South Posts: 856	Re: Remember the last time we started the season 10 spots behind the falcons? Originally Posted by SaintGup Sorry, but though I agree with you on the value of the rankings... ...in some parallel universes, black is white, male is female, if you're fat you will be thin and up is down BUT my friend, The Browns will always be the Browns, no matter what one you travel to. That's what they said about the Saints until 2009. The point is that NFL rankings are meaningless and getting all upset about them is a waste of time. Like the original poster said, we were 18 going into the 2009 season and we won the Super Bowl. I'm guessing the two seasons before that, we were ranked high and didn't even make the playoffs and then the year before that which was 2006, we were probably ranked 32nd and went to the NFC championship game.

09-11-2013, 01:29 PM	#3
Utah_Saint Site Donor 2019 Join Date: Jan 2012 Location: Salt Lake City, Utah Posts: 3,521	Re: Remember the last time we started the season 10 spots behind the falcons? Originally Posted by poydras That's what they said about the Saints until 2009. The point is that NFL rankings are meaningless and getting all upset about them is a waste of time. Like the original poster said, we were 18 going into the 2009 season and we won the Super Bowl. I'm guessing the two seasons before that, we were ranked high and didn't even make the playoffs and then the year before that which was 2006, we were probably ranked 32nd and went to the NFC championship game. I guess I'm still missing the point. Sorry, sometimes I'm a little slow on the uptake. Are you suggesting the rest of us stop posting about team rankings? Or are you just making a general announcement to the world that you don't like them? You're 100% correct that these rankings have no effect on whether the Saints will make the Super Bowl. You are also correct that they are in no way a substitute for the NFL championship, which is the ultimate goal of the team. And I'm with you when you say you'd rather get respect by dancing with the Lombardi. But it's not an "either or" situation. Some of us enjoy reading about how the so called "experts" compare us to other teams and their reasoning behind it. Sometimes we agree with the rankings, sometimes we don't. They're only meant to inspire thought and discussion. It's really not much different than what we do on this site. We discuss team strengths and weaknesses, successes and failures, but in the end, our discussions are merey our opinions so therefore, they're kinda meaningless as well. In the end, it's all about having fun.

09-11-2013, 01:57 PM	#4
poydras Team Doctor Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: Deep South Posts: 856	Re: Remember the last time we started the season 10 spots behind the falcons? Originally Posted by Utah_Saint Are you suggesting the rest of us stop posting about team rankings? Or are you just making a general announcement to the world that you don't like them? No. Post away. Are you saying that I shouldn't suggest that people not obsess over them? ... and no. I don't care about them one way or the other because they're totally meaningless and knowing our CBS, ESPN, whatever ranking, is only marginally more important than knowing the number of power poles between my home and the Super Dome.

09-11-2013, 02:16 PM	#5
SaintGup 500th Post Join Date: Sep 2009 Location: London, England Posts: 580	Re: Remember the last time we started the season 10 spots behind the falcons? Originally Posted by poydras No. Post away. Are you saying that I shouldn't suggest that people not obsess over them? ... and no. I don't care about them one way or the other because they're totally meaningless and knowing our CBS, ESPN, whatever ranking, is only marginally more important than knowing the number of power poles between my home and the Super Dome. So let me see...are you saying we can't say that people want to say stuff about saying what other people want to say? If so, then I fear that saying what should be said instead of what people want to hear said will lead to saying things that have been said just to say it for saying it's sake. That's what my friend said he said anyway.

09-11-2013, 02:17 PM	#6
Utah_Saint Site Donor 2019 Join Date: Jan 2012 Location: Salt Lake City, Utah Posts: 3,521	Re: Remember the last time we started the season 10 spots behind the falcons? Originally Posted by poydras Are you saying that I shouldn't suggest that people not obsess over them? No, I wouldn't do that. And I apologize if I came across that way. I honestly didn't intend to. I respect your opinion.

09-11-2013, 12:36 PM	#1
SaintGup 500th Post Join Date: Sep 2009 Location: London, England Posts: 580	Re: Remember the last time we started the season 10 spots behind the falcons? Originally Posted by poydras Unlike the NCAA, rankings mean absolutely ZILCH in the NFL. Why does everyone get so wrapped up with them? If you pull up enough of those you'll probably find the cleveland browns with a #1 ranking somewhere. Sorry, but though I agree with you on the value of the rankings... ...in some parallel universes, black is white, male is female, if you're fat you will be thin and up is down BUT my friend, The Browns will always be the Browns, no matter what one you travel to. SloMotion likes this.

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