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Old 09-16-2013, 05:46 PM   #1
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Re: Between a Rock and a Hard Place ...

the fix is we need a running game.
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Brees under-threw Henderson for years, there's nothing new here, just a little rust.
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Originally Posted by Euphoria View Post
the fix is we need a running game.
And I'm confident we have that... All day.
Just need to rearrange a few pieces.
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Old 09-17-2013, 12:54 PM   #4
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Originally Posted by TheOak View Post
And I'm confident we have that... All day.
Just need to rearrange a few pieces.
Define "a few"...

Payton indicated the desire to run a zone blocking scheme.

2013 would be inaugural season, if so.

Do we need 4 new O linemen then??

If not, how long does it take to run an effective zone RBS??
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Originally Posted by saintsfan1976 View Post
Define "a few"...

Payton indicated the desire to run a zone blocking scheme.

2013 would be inaugural season, if so.

Do we need 4 new O linemen then??

If not, how long does it take to run an effective zone RBS??
Thomas and Sproles the usual... Maybe 5 more touches to Thomas, bench Ingram and lets see if K. Robinson is what we think he is... A Chris Ivory that stays healthy.

Honestly Sproles and Thomas are getting it done as we are.

If you go through the play by play and focus on Ingram, you will see that he had an awful lot of second and third and shorts that he didnt make the 2-3 yards on for a 1st down.

Ingram's YPC is not as damaging as his failures on 2-1, 2-2, 4-1 in the goal line... He didnt get at least 2 first downs and one TD where we needed no more than one to two yards.


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Zone Blocking scheme is actually easier to run and favors fleet footed athletic linemen that usually get over powered by big d-linemen. Ive seen some of that going on lol.

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Old 09-17-2013, 02:23 PM   #6
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Re: Between a Rock and a Hard Place ...

Originally Posted by saintsfan1976 View Post
Define "a few"...

Payton indicated the desire to run a zone blocking scheme.

2013 would be inaugural season, if so.

Do we need 4 new O linemen then??

If not, how long does it take to run an effective zone RBS??
IIRC we ran a zone blocking scheme in the 09 season. Thomas was the only one who ran behind that zone scheme and that could have a lot to do with his success. Even with that being said I still blame Ingram for his inability to get the running game going.

Most of his carries are loss of yards or no gains... he actually sets the offense back when he gets the ball. I would hate on the guy less if he actually got 2 ypc. Hell, he even had a false start against Tampa... so disappointed in Ingram.
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