Goldson suspended for hit on Sproles

09-17-2013, 03:25 AM

The league is using him as a scapegoat the same as they used the Saints.
Everyone likes big hits and hard nosed football buy there is s difference in hard and dirty.Wether e like it or not the game is changing and its at that point when s big change is beinh made, in 5 years players will have adapted and young fans wont care and we will sound like our dads/grandads etc reminiscing about the good old days.But with the changes hopefully so will the players . Nothing worse than seeing a childhood hero punch drunk from one to many shots. I know I feel partly guilty for enjoying the big fights, hits, KOs they were in for both our money and our entertainment
Im sure it has nothing to do with the Bucs playing the Pats next week either.

DemonicSaint · 09-17-2013, 03:37 AM

Originally Posted by papz

NFL suspended Bucs S Dashon Goldson one game for his illegal helmet-to-helmet hit on a defenseless Darren Sproles in Sunday's Week 2 loss.

Goldson's suspension is the result of "a flagrant and repeat violation of rules prohibiting hits to the head and neck area." He was flagged for unnecessary roughness on the Sproles hit. The previous week, Goldson was fined $30,000 for committing a personal foul on Jets TE Jeff Cumberland. Goldson has 15 personal foul penalties since the start of the 2010 season. He'll likely appeal the suspension. As of now, Goldson is set to miss next week's game against the Patriots. Ahmad Black will likely get the start in his place. Goldson will be eligible to return in Week 4 against the Cardinals at home.

Source: Ian Rapoport on Twitter

As for Ahmad Black, he should be banned for that hit on Jimmy. >.<

SloMotion · 09-17-2013, 06:21 AM

I guess I'll accept the fact that in today's litigious society the need for the NFL to protect itself with fines/suspensions and water the game down until Tchaikovsky's Symphony No. 4 is the leagues' theme song, but I don't have to like it,

.

One problem I see already is the consistency of fines/suspensions ... there is none (go figure, eh?

). You got hundreds of these hits going on every week throughout the season, you can't just 'selectively' fine & suspend players ... that in itself invites the lawsuits the league is trying to avoid with all this crap.

Another problem is the guys generating the 'big hits' that are drawing the fines/suspensions are the ones people are buying tickets to see. Start handcuffing your defensive superstars and pretty much all's you have is arena football on a regulation-size field, ridiculous scores of 100-86 and QB's throwing for 1,000yds per game.

I can see a world without football in my future ... or at least not as much football, <sigh>.

lee909 · 09-17-2013, 06:39 AM

I would say the best defensive players over the last few years have no been dirty though or even nasty hitters.
Von Miller, JJ Watt, Ed Reed,

SloMotion · 09-17-2013, 06:58 AM

Originally Posted by lee909

I would say the best defensive players over the last few years have no been dirty though or even nasty hitters.
Von Miller, JJ Watt, Ed Reed,

Yeah, there's always a few choir-boys that ruin it for the rest of 'em,

.

Football, to me, is by nature a nasty game and I question if the NFL can really regulate it this way. Regardless of how careful you play, questionable contact is gonna' happen. You don't play a contact sport at half-speed thinking about 'not hurting' your opponent ... that's how you get hurt yourself.

Honestly, I think they're gonna' have to come up with some kind of database in order to keep track of an individual/all player's infractions and establish a more consistent way of handing out fines/suspensions then they've demonstrated thus far.

It is a slippery slope the NFL has embarked on, my friends ... but I do totally disagree with the blatant/intentional/targeted stuff when it happens.

xan · 09-17-2013, 07:28 AM

Where is Black's fine/suspension? I thought it was his hit that brought the discipline. Schiano the Douche teaches and encourages this, so when is he getting a year ban?

SloMotion · 09-17-2013, 07:35 AM

Originally Posted by xan

Where is Black's fine/suspension? I thought it was his hit that brought the discipline. Schiano the Douche teaches and encourages this, so when is he getting a year ban?

That's exactly what I'm talking about ... for each and every fine/suspension they hand out, there will be countless others they don't, giving rise to the equity/integrity/fairness of the whole system ... "the slope is slippery" ... they better get a handle on it or it will be the end of the NFL as we know it ... bet.

Mardigras9 · 09-17-2013, 10:06 AM

Like it or not, that is the rules of the NFL now. This guy was fined against the Jets and turned around and did it again against the Saints.

His suspension is merited.

TheOak · 09-17-2013, 11:21 AM

Originally Posted by rezburna

IDK who wrote your rule book, but going at the head has been fine up until now. Never heard anybody complain about it. You had some running backs who would get mad when you go low and say hit me up high, but its only when the tackle was made and because they were frustrated they got tackled. So yeah, they have unwritten rules, but those weren't it. We can pull up the film from the players of your time. Those head hunting hits were applauded. They're on highlight reels. How do you feel about Deacon Jones and the way he played, because if I'm not mistaken isn't he in the HOF?

My rule book and the way I was taught to play the game and tackle is quite simple.

The head and feet can fake you out, the numbers never lie. If the numbers move left HE is moving left, always put your face mask in the numbers, wrap, drive, and try to strip.

It's called fundamental football. Hollywood players like yourself missed a lot of tackles going for the head.... Caused a lot of points in open field situations.

Such a paradox.... The Saints couldn't tackle but we condone aiming for the head.

It's like a one handed pop fly catch... Why, what is the point? You have another hand Hollywood, use it and don't risk dropping the ball. Why risk missing the tackles, go for the numbers.

I don't know or care who you were coached by buy bad form is bad form and it leads to bad injuries.

TheOak · 09-18-2013, 10:15 AM

Conflicting tweets:

@alexmarvez: The NFL has fined Dashon Goldson $100K for his hit on Darren Sproles but he's eligible to play Sunday v. @Patriots, a source told @FOXSports

@LarryHolder: RT @RapSheet: Source: Dashon Goldson won his appeal. He'll play this week.

m.twitter.com/LarryHolder

Clarity:

@LarryHolder: RT @alexmarvez: The NFL has fined Dashon Goldson $100K for his hit on Darren Sproles but he's eligible to play Sunday v. @Patriots, a sourc.

09-17-2013, 03:25 AM	#51
Threaded by lee909 Site Donor 2015 Join Date: Mar 2012 Location: Watford England Posts: 8,803 Blog Entries: 1 Rating: (0 votes - average) The league is using him as a scapegoat the same as they used the Saints. Everyone likes big hits and hard nosed football buy there is s difference in hard and dirty.Wether e like it or not the game is changing and its at that point when s big change is beinh made, in 5 years players will have adapted and young fans wont care and we will sound like our dads/grandads etc reminiscing about the good old days.But with the changes hopefully so will the players . Nothing worse than seeing a childhood hero punch drunk from one to many shots. I know I feel partly guilty for enjoying the big fights, hits, KOs they were in for both our money and our entertainment Im sure it has nothing to do with the Bucs playing the Pats next week either.
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09-17-2013, 03:37 AM	#52
DemonicSaint Registered Join Date: Feb 2013 Location: Las Vegas, NV Posts: 81	Re: Goldson suspended for hit on Sproles Originally Posted by papz NFL suspended Bucs S Dashon Goldson one game for his illegal helmet-to-helmet hit on a defenseless Darren Sproles in Sunday's Week 2 loss. Goldson's suspension is the result of "a flagrant and repeat violation of rules prohibiting hits to the head and neck area." He was flagged for unnecessary roughness on the Sproles hit. The previous week, Goldson was fined $30,000 for committing a personal foul on Jets TE Jeff Cumberland. Goldson has 15 personal foul penalties since the start of the 2010 season. He'll likely appeal the suspension. As of now, Goldson is set to miss next week's game against the Patriots. Ahmad Black will likely get the start in his place. Goldson will be eligible to return in Week 4 against the Cardinals at home. Source: Ian Rapoport on Twitter As for Ahmad Black, he should be banned for that hit on Jimmy. >.<

09-17-2013, 06:21 AM	#53
SloMotion 5000 POSTS! + Join Date: Jan 2012 Posts: 6,776 Blog Entries: 15	Re: Goldson suspended for hit on Sproles I guess I'll accept the fact that in today's litigious society the need for the NFL to protect itself with fines/suspensions and water the game down until Tchaikovsky's Symphony No. 4 is the leagues' theme song, but I don't have to like it, . One problem I see already is the consistency of fines/suspensions ... there is none (go figure, eh? ). You got hundreds of these hits going on every week throughout the season, you can't just 'selectively' fine & suspend players ... that in itself invites the lawsuits the league is trying to avoid with all this crap. Another problem is the guys generating the 'big hits' that are drawing the fines/suspensions are the ones people are buying tickets to see. Start handcuffing your defensive superstars and pretty much all's you have is arena football on a regulation-size field, ridiculous scores of 100-86 and QB's throwing for 1,000yds per game. I can see a world without football in my future ... or at least not as much football, <sigh>.

09-17-2013, 06:39 AM	#54
lee909 Site Donor 2015 Join Date: Mar 2012 Location: Watford England Posts: 8,803 Blog Entries: 1	Re: Goldson suspended for hit on Sproles I would say the best defensive players over the last few years have no been dirty though or even nasty hitters. Von Miller, JJ Watt, Ed Reed,

09-17-2013, 06:58 AM	#55
SloMotion 5000 POSTS! + Join Date: Jan 2012 Posts: 6,776 Blog Entries: 15	Re: Goldson suspended for hit on Sproles Originally Posted by lee909 I would say the best defensive players over the last few years have no been dirty though or even nasty hitters. Von Miller, JJ Watt, Ed Reed, Yeah, there's always a few choir-boys that ruin it for the rest of 'em, . Football, to me, is by nature a nasty game and I question if the NFL can really regulate it this way. Regardless of how careful you play, questionable contact is gonna' happen. You don't play a contact sport at half-speed thinking about 'not hurting' your opponent ... that's how you get hurt yourself. Honestly, I think they're gonna' have to come up with some kind of database in order to keep track of an individual/all player's infractions and establish a more consistent way of handing out fines/suspensions then they've demonstrated thus far. It is a slippery slope the NFL has embarked on, my friends ... but I do totally disagree with the blatant/intentional/targeted stuff when it happens.

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09-17-2013, 07:28 AM	#56
xan Professor Crab and Site Donor 2014 Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: Princeton Posts: 3,369 Blog Entries: 34	Re: Goldson suspended for hit on Sproles Where is Black's fine/suspension? I thought it was his hit that brought the discipline. Schiano the Douche teaches and encourages this, so when is he getting a year ban? SaintsBro likes this.

09-17-2013, 07:35 AM	#57
SloMotion 5000 POSTS! + Join Date: Jan 2012 Posts: 6,776 Blog Entries: 15	Re: Goldson suspended for hit on Sproles Originally Posted by xan Where is Black's fine/suspension? I thought it was his hit that brought the discipline. Schiano the Douche teaches and encourages this, so when is he getting a year ban? That's exactly what I'm talking about ... for each and every fine/suspension they hand out, there will be countless others they don't, giving rise to the equity/integrity/fairness of the whole system ... "the slope is slippery" ... they better get a handle on it or it will be the end of the NFL as we know it ... bet.

09-17-2013, 10:06 AM	#58
Mardigras9 Site Donor 2015 Join Date: Dec 2010 Location: Land Mass between LA and AL Posts: 4,375	Re: Goldson suspended for hit on Sproles Like it or not, that is the rules of the NFL now. This guy was fined against the Jets and turned around and did it again against the Saints. His suspension is merited.

09-17-2013, 11:21 AM	#59
TheOak 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Dec 2009 Location: Cypress Tx. Posts: 19,026	Re: Goldson suspended for hit on Sproles Originally Posted by rezburna IDK who wrote your rule book, but going at the head has been fine up until now. Never heard anybody complain about it. You had some running backs who would get mad when you go low and say hit me up high, but its only when the tackle was made and because they were frustrated they got tackled. So yeah, they have unwritten rules, but those weren't it. We can pull up the film from the players of your time. Those head hunting hits were applauded. They're on highlight reels. How do you feel about Deacon Jones and the way he played, because if I'm not mistaken isn't he in the HOF? My rule book and the way I was taught to play the game and tackle is quite simple. The head and feet can fake you out, the numbers never lie. If the numbers move left HE is moving left, always put your face mask in the numbers, wrap, drive, and try to strip. It's called fundamental football. Hollywood players like yourself missed a lot of tackles going for the head.... Caused a lot of points in open field situations. Such a paradox.... The Saints couldn't tackle but we condone aiming for the head. It's like a one handed pop fly catch... Why, what is the point? You have another hand Hollywood, use it and don't risk dropping the ball. Why risk missing the tackles, go for the numbers. I don't know or care who you were coached by buy bad form is bad form and it leads to bad injuries. RaginCajun83, \|Mitch\| and lee909 like this.
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09-18-2013, 10:15 AM	#60
TheOak 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Dec 2009 Location: Cypress Tx. Posts: 19,026	Re: Goldson suspended for hit on Sproles Conflicting tweets: @alexmarvez: The NFL has fined Dashon Goldson $100K for his hit on Darren Sproles but he's eligible to play Sunday v. @Patriots, a source told @FOXSports @LarryHolder: RT @RapSheet: Source: Dashon Goldson won his appeal. He'll play this week. m.twitter.com/LarryHolder Clarity: @LarryHolder: RT @alexmarvez: The NFL has fined Dashon Goldson $100K for his hit on Darren Sproles but he's eligible to play Sunday v. @Patriots, a sourc.

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