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this is a discussion within the Saints Community Forum; Ouch. It gets even uglier, the more I look into it. I looked at our backs, in JUST the red zone, or inside the 30. Obviously these numbers are compressed because of the short field, and ___ happens, but still. ...

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Old 09-18-2013, 11:15 AM   #5
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Re: Saints Red Zone Trips, Broken Down

Ouch. It gets even uglier, the more I look into it.

I looked at our backs, in JUST the red zone, or inside the 30. Obviously these numbers are compressed because of the short field, and ___ happens, but still.

Mark Ingram - 5 carries, for 4 yards (not counting the -5 false start penalty on him)
Pierre Thomas - 3 rushes for 5 yards. 3 catches for 7 yards.
Sproles - 3 rushes for 7 yards, 3 catches for 17.

So Ingram rushing = .8 YPC
Pierre = 1.6
Sproles = 2.3

Sproles passing = 5.6
Pierre passing = 2.3

I didn't fool with dropped passes, or which side they're rushing to, because ain't nobody got time for dat. But when you look at the sequences, or who did what, it looks like

(a) Ingram is not producing (which we already knew)
(b) Pierre is not producing as well as people think he is, when he IS given the ball in the red zone, and
(c) Sproles is being increasingly called on to bail the other two out, especially when you look at the sequencing of the plays, they will tend to go penalty/sack/Ingram, something bad happens, THEN Sproles... it's almost always going to Sproles AFTER a negative play or something bad happens. But sproles has the best yards and receptions of any of them!

No question, though, once we get inside the 15 yard line we have not been doing well at getting it into the end zone.
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