Re: Khiry Robinson runs nasty
 

Who is saying anything about Ingram? Where did I mention Ingram?

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Here's a beauty.

Re: Khiry Robinson runs nasty
 

And really, in the grand scheme of things, Pierre Thomas, Darren Sproles and Chris Ivory all had more yards per carry than Ingram.

Maybe we're not using Ingram right. Maybe he needs 20+ carries per game. Maybe he needs to get more involved in the passing game. Maybe he needs to run outside the tackles or sweeps more.

But in the end does it really matter what the cause is? Predictability, poor blocking, injury, strong headwinds, what ever the reason, the bottom line is, it's just not working.

Re: Khiry Robinson runs nasty
 

And that's great and all, but if you didn't notice, PT and Sproles did that as well and much more, and couldn't gain a yard the first half. Now going against a defeated, tired defense that's just going through the motions waiting for the game to end, yeah, anyone can look good.

Really? Both situations have nothing in common?
Both a 2 yard loss during a goal line stand and a kneel down count as a running play for a 2 yard loss. But the situations are rather different, right? During the goal line stand, especially when the game is tied or close, the defense is trying their hardest to stop the TD; during the victory formation, the defense stands up and touches the guys in front of them.

Do you see it now?

Just like you wouldn't give the same credit to a defense for stopping the run during a victory formation, I don't give credit to a RB who comes in after the fight, against a defense that's defeated, tired, and just wants to see the clock hit 00:00 so they can take a shower and go home.

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Watches the gif over and over.

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He reminds me a lot of PT the way he puts his hand down and cuts.

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And this is why I specifically pointed out carries 1 and 4 (Q4, 4:26 and Q4, 2:14).

These were both situations where the defense had all the gaps covered and the flow of the play was stopped, yet Robinson made something out of it anyway. Those plays had nothing to do with the defense being tired.

If Robinson had simply run through a couple of weak arm tackles, I might agree with you. But those plays were about his instincts and ability to find a hole that didn't exist relative to the original play call.

He reminds me of both PT and Ivory in different ways. PT for the way he kind of shimmies his way around a tackle to get a couple of extra yards, same way Deuce used to do it too. And Ivory for the way he gets going so fast. Two steps and he's at full speed before he even hits the line.

I think the kid has the total package. The two big questions are, can he stay healthy, and can he block? Those are the two things that kept Ivory from becoming a much bigger part of the offense than he ended up being.

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Lets recap Khiry Robinsons tenure with the Saints according to a % of fans.

Preseason - "He was running against second string defenses."
Chiefs 12-52 4.3 AVE
Raiders 10-50 5.0 AVE
Texans 5-11 2.1 AVE
Dolphins 22-115 5.2 AVE

Regular Season - "The opponent gave up"
Cardinals 4-38 yards 9.5 AVE 21-Long

Now the rationalization that Khiry Robinson didn't get carries in weeks 1-2 and until the 4th Qtr because Sean Payton doesn't have faith in him.

1. Does anyone think Robinson would be on this team if Sean Payton didn't have any faith in him? Wouldn't it have been a whole lot easier to keep Cadet and give Robinson's roster spot to another position if Sean didnt think he could get it done?

2. I don't think Robinson or Cadet ran in weeks 1-2 because Sean was giving Ingram his chance to prove him self. That chance only goes so far when it hinders our running game.

Now lets look at that SECOND HALF (score S14-C7) and not the 4th Qtr., after 1/2 time adjustments against Arizona when they were "gassed and tired and defeated". I cant wait for these excuses..

Pierre Thomas - 8/33 4.1 AVE
Khiry Robinson - 4/38 9.5 AVE
Darren Sproles - 3/17 5.6 AVE

So the Cardinals gave up at the 1/2 only 1 TD behind and that's why we were able to run? Even if you cut Robins AVE in half he AVE 4.75 YPC.

Let it go... He ran just as well as PT and Sproles in the Second half even with his production cut in half. Khiry Robin is good and he can run, the only questions i have is can he stay healthy and can he keep the ball secure; so far he has not proven he cant do both... No less than any of our other RBs.

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He also needs to know his pass protections and blitz pick ups. I think that might be the biggest reason why he hasn't gotten into games yet. The offensive line is having enough trouble as it is.