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I suggested no such thing and would appreciate my words being taken at face value.

Here is your scenario, you have to give 2 losses to somewhere in the NFL. Where would you rather have them?

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Go ahead and do that then. I'm pointing out the obvious, because I'm tired of the passive aggressive remarks about how we are spoiled if we're mad about a loss, and how it doesn't matter that much. But I can see that my words are falling on stubborn and deaf ears.

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There is no way Oak was saying it was ok to lose. That is out of context. I read it as 'if we are going to lose it is better to do so to an AFC opponent'. He's a Saints fan like all of us so why would he want us to lose? Come on man!

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All good teams have a bad day every now and then. I am happy to be 6-2 and I still think we will win our division. People are saying how great Carolina is playing their last few games but they haven't played any world beaters.

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Well to be fair, neither have we.

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LOL

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I understand that logic, Oak. My point is that these are games we should have won. So to answer your question, I'd rather have two losses to teams where I would more expect to have a loss. Now we MUST beat all of the best teams on our schedule. There really is no margin for error now, if there ever was.


(typo corrected)

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And we've lost...they've won.

Not good.

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First thing you did was jump in here and direct your anger at other Saints fans, just like a Panthers or Falcons fans would do.

No need and ***** at us when we have no outcome on the game. You sound just like a rival fan with the whining...

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Yet again, I did not say 'WANTED to lose". The suggestion is that it somehow matters less because it was an AFC team. There will be no tie breaker scenarios if we can't beat the teams we should beat. It's a simple point I'm making.

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Quote me using the word "spoiled" in this thread... I dare ya LOL.

There is no passive in me and what is absolutely hilarious is that you do not know what Passive Aggressive means. Don't go looking it up now... LOL

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Its an embarrassing loss

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Everyone is saying, we're 6-2, it's ok, but go back and look at who we've beaten, no one. They are all losers or .500 at best. Sans the Pats. That is my biggest concern. Throw our injuries on top of that and our upcoming schedule. I'ts going to be rough.

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The first thing I did was jump on fans who don't understand common sense. That does not apply to all. I have given the reason behind my irratation many times.

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Our lines are killing us.

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It's less about the number of losses and more about "how" they happened.


And they keep happening.

And losses will continue to pile up if the problems aren't fixed.

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Great way to differentiate... :rolleyes:

And two losses to AFC teams is better than two losses to NFC teams in the rankings, seems like pretty good common sense to me.

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The passive aggressive is your backhanded attempts to call out fans while making it look like you're painting a silver lining.

You are constantly telling us how we expect too much and we "whine" after every loss, as if you have never said anything negative about the Saints. I don't think it's whining when I say I'm tired of losing to average teams. It's merely a statement.

Still want to look up the meaning of passive aggressive?

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What exactly did you think I was trying to differentiate? That statement above was quite clear.

And rankings, really? Rankings? This isn't college football. Records matter here. The record says we are behind the seahawks. Will we catch them? I hope so. Right now I'm more concerned with the 49ers, but regardless of who our main competition is, we will not gain home field if we don't play better on the road.

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And Oak, let me be clear. It isn't this thread that I am referencing when I talk about people saying it's not a big deal, or doesn't matter. Your thread annoys me because I strongly disagree with your logic behind it.

It's the many, many comments I've read over several threads since the Pats game that are starting to push my buttons. The sky is not falling, and that is very true. But these losses are extremely important in the race for homefield. I'm not concerned about the division.

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some fans with no common sense, apparently your definition of differentiate is different than mine

And if you didn't understand what I was trying to say then you are the fan who doesn't have common sense.

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Chris Ivory SHREDDED us. That's a little funny. We still have Ingram, who had a career day at 19 yards. Hamstring looked better than Ingram's toe.

We sat Robinson to play Ingram? That right there screams that we don't really need this game.

#5 beats HIMSELF. Again. And somehow we'll hold on to this clown because he has a career best as well. He needs to start a car dealership or something.

Ben Watson, anyone? Calling BEN Watson... I don't know, maybe take a little heat off Graham?

Jimmy Graham needs coaching, not contracting. I tend to think he's luckier than he is good. It's 50/50, like his ability to catch.

Overall, a miserable day. We are not a Super Bowl team, but I'd be happy to eat that.

Alaska

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Alaska for the win! Post of the day for me

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Ok mitch, humor me. What do you mean? The only rankings I'm aware of in the NFL are Power Rankings, which are completely subjective polls written by people who's opinions have no bearing on the standings.

We've lost to two AFC teams and the 'hawks have lost to one, which equals 2 losses to 1. If we end in a tie with some team and have a better NFC record than them, then it's ok. But with losses like these, it's not likely we'll see a tie.

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Rankings = Standings in this case, quite easy to figure out

What if they lose to the Bucs today? 21-7 at the half? Too much football left to be getting pissed, especially when you can't change any of it

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He's talking about NFC conference wins and losses. What "rank" or win-loss in division and conference on the path to the playoffs. Losing out of conference games are nominal compared to intra-conference games, in general. We've also won intra-division games.

Our 2 losses have come to out of conference AFC teams, which you'd rather do than lose to teams in the NFC.

If you lose conference games and division games early, you're constantly playing catchup trying to get back in line for the playoff hunt. How you finish in your conference deems where you fall in the playoffs. So it is a ranking per se. It's definitely a math equation and we're still doing fine in line to the playoffs, and we have the ability to correct problems and still have shot at home field advantage in the playoffs. So much football left to play, so much will happen between now and then.

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Halo, I hear what you're saying but it's all relative. We're mathematically fine as of now but the way this team has played is not a good sign especially considering the meat of our schedule is on the horizon.

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No mitch. You're saying that the standings are effected more by NFC games. That's completely false. Standings are effected by ALL wins and losses. We are behind right now.

maybe the seahawks do lose today. and maybe WE lose to the Bucs later on, considering we almost did the first time. We have to play better. The 49ers seem to be hitting their stride whereas the Saints and Seahawks seem to be regressing.

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I'd say with 100% certainty that the offense was more of a disappointment today than the defense.

I don't think there's any doubt about it.

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Actually if the Seahawks lose against the Bucs today, making them 7-2 with a loss to a NFC/AFC team we'll be tied for the NFC lead at 6-2 with 2 losses to the AFC

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Agreed and I know exactly what people are trying to say. But all of that of the intradivision and conference games don't save us if we give games away, regardless of conference is what I'm saying. My concern is how we play on the road. Let's not forget how close we came to losing to the bucs on the road as well.

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Yes, and you are going back to the tie-breaker scenario. what weight does that hold if we do not finish tied? In the end, it could happen and perhaps we'll be talking about how it was a good thing we won all of our NFC games. But right now, a loss is a loss, and it puts a lot more pressure to win down this difficult stretch of schedule coming up. If we play our best, we can do it. If we continue to sputter, I think we can easily agree that we won't be pulling many rabbits out of the hat.

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That's the whole point, too much football left to let one midseason loss to allow you to come calling out fans for not having common sense, because you are pissed about a loss...

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Depends what you mean by low. At the start of the season, I didn't think we would be as good as 7-1. Please do not tell me I am not much of a fan.When I last looked, almost every team over the decades have made idiotic mistakes and play calls that have contributed to losses.

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We're at the halfway point, and as much as I don't like to say it, I'm not sure we've really beaten anyone of significance yet, and we look extremely vulnerable. We lost to a team that just got beat by 40 points. Does that sound like a reason to be pretty ticked about this one? It does to me. I'll be over it by tomorrow, because that's what I have to do.

But within the context of the season this loss is inexcusable. And if others don't understand that, then I'm not going to sugar coat it. I get attacked for my opinions at times. People didn't like when I said the loss to the Patriots hurts equally to any other loss. Why? I don't know why. But this is my response to them and to the comments about today. This is why we come here, to discuss. I didn't sign up to come here and high five everybody when I don't agree with them.

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And when those teams made those idiotic mistakes that cost them wins, did it come back to bite them? Many times it does. It's up to this team to show some pride and not let this keep them down. Right now, they look uninspired.

As to your first comment, I don't think you have low expectations if you didn't think we'd be 7-1. I thought we could be at least that. Oak didn't think we would be 6-2. And given our underwhelming schedule thus far, that seems like low expectations to me.

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So pretty much calling others ignorant(no common sense) and trying to argue the fact is okay because you were previously attacked?

It's one thing to be mad but attacking others isn't cool, makes the ones who can't find the ignore button not want to be here...

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Win the division.

Priority #1.

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I don't know or see what they are at the moment. Really next week is the best chance I have knowing/seeing how inspired they are

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I don't think what I'm saying is an attack. I said i was tired of hearing that it's not a big deal, and we should be glad it's a non conference game. That's a statement, not an attack. From there on mitch, you've been inciting a great deal of animosity in this conversation. You seem to be much more hurt than anyone else here. I'm annoyed, not hurt. Big difference.

When people continue to argue with me about simple math, I will in fact to tell them that they lack common since, yes. I respond to people who argue with me, because I disagree and have a human instinct to defend my own position. I'm pretty sure most people can handle that.