Six and Two!

|Mitch| · 11-03-2013, 04:36 PM

Originally Posted by burningmetal

The first thing I did was jump on fans who don't understand common sense.

Originally Posted by burningmetal

What exactly did you think I was trying to differentiate? That statement above was quite clear.

some fans with no common sense, apparently your definition of differentiate is different than mine

Originally Posted by burningmetal

And rankings, really? Rankings? This isn't college football. Records matter here. The record says we are behind the seahawks. Will we catch them? I hope so. Right now I'm more concerned with the 49ers, but regardless of who our main competition is, we will not gain home field if we don't play better on the road.

And if you didn't understand what I was trying to say then you are the fan who doesn't have common sense.

AlaskaSaints · 11-03-2013, 04:38 PM

Chris Ivory SHREDDED us. That's a little funny. We still have Ingram, who had a career day at 19 yards. Hamstring looked better than Ingram's toe.

We sat Robinson to play Ingram? That right there screams that we don't really need this game.

#5 beats HIMSELF. Again. And somehow we'll hold on to this clown because he has a career best as well. He needs to start a car dealership or something.

Ben Watson, anyone? Calling BEN Watson... I don't know, maybe take a little heat off Graham?

Jimmy Graham needs coaching, not contracting. I tend to think he's luckier than he is good. It's 50/50, like his ability to catch.

Overall, a miserable day. We are not a Super Bowl team, but I'd be happy to eat that.

Alaska

4everSaint · 11-03-2013, 04:42 PM

Originally Posted by AlaskaSaints

Chris Ivory SHREDDED us. That's a little funny. We still have Ingram, who had a career day at 19 yards. Hamstring looked better than Ingram's toe.

We sat Robinson to play Ingram? That right there screams that we don't really need this game.

#5 beats HIMSELF. Again. And somehow we'll hold on to this clown because he has a career best as well. He needs to start a car dealership or something.

Ben Watson, anyone? Calling BEN Watson... I don't know, maybe take a little heat off Graham?

Jimmy Graham needs coaching, not contracting. I tend to think he's luckier than he is good. It's 50/50, like his ability to catch.

Overall, a miserable day. We are not a Super Bowl team, but I'd be happy to eat that.

Alaska

Alaska for the win! Post of the day for me

burningmetal · 11-03-2013, 04:42 PM

Originally Posted by |Mitch|

some fans with no common sense, apparently your definition of differentiate is different than mine

And if you didn't understand what I was trying to say then you are the fan who doesn't have common sense.

Ok mitch, humor me. What do you mean? The only rankings I'm aware of in the NFL are Power Rankings, which are completely subjective polls written by people who's opinions have no bearing on the standings.

We've lost to two AFC teams and the 'hawks have lost to one, which equals 2 losses to 1. If we end in a tie with some team and have a better NFC record than them, then it's ok. But with losses like these, it's not likely we'll see a tie.

|Mitch| · 11-03-2013, 04:45 PM

Originally Posted by burningmetal

Ok mitch, humor me. What do you mean? The only rankings I'm aware of in the NFL are Power Rankings, which are completely subjective polls written by people who's opinions have no bearing on the standings.

Rankings = Standings in this case, quite easy to figure out

Originally Posted by burningmetal

We've lost to two AFC teams and the 'hawks have lost to one, which equals 2 losses to 1. If we end in a tie with some team and have a better NFC record than them, then it's ok. But with losses like these, it's not likely we'll see a tie.

What if they lose to the Bucs today? 21-7 at the half? Too much football left to be getting pissed, especially when you can't change any of it

Halo · 11-03-2013, 04:48 PM

Originally Posted by burningmetal

Ok mitch, humor me. What do you mean? The only rankings I'm aware of in the NFL are Power Rankings, which are completely subjective polls written by people who's opinions have no bearing on the standings.

We've lost to two AFC teams and the 'hawks have lost to one, which equals 2 losses to 1. If we end in a tie with some team and have a better NFC record than them, then it's ok. But with losses like these, it's not likely we'll see a tie.

He's talking about NFC conference wins and losses. What "rank" or win-loss in division and conference on the path to the playoffs. Losing out of conference games are nominal compared to intra-conference games, in general. We've also won intra-division games.

Our 2 losses have come to out of conference AFC teams, which you'd rather do than lose to teams in the NFC.

If you lose conference games and division games early, you're constantly playing catchup trying to get back in line for the playoff hunt. How you finish in your conference deems where you fall in the playoffs. So it is a ranking per se. It's definitely a math equation and we're still doing fine in line to the playoffs, and we have the ability to correct problems and still have shot at home field advantage in the playoffs. So much football left to play, so much will happen between now and then.

saintsfan1976 · 11-03-2013, 04:51 PM

Halo, I hear what you're saying but it's all relative. We're mathematically fine as of now but the way this team has played is not a good sign especially considering the meat of our schedule is on the horizon.

burningmetal · 11-03-2013, 04:52 PM

Originally Posted by |Mitch|

Rankings = Standings in this case, quite easy to figure out

What if they lose to the Bucs today? 21-7 at the half? Too much football left to be getting pissed, especially when you can't change any of it

No mitch. You're saying that the standings are effected more by NFC games. That's completely false. Standings are effected by ALL wins and losses. We are behind right now.

maybe the seahawks do lose today. and maybe WE lose to the Bucs later on, considering we almost did the first time. We have to play better. The 49ers seem to be hitting their stride whereas the Saints and Seahawks seem to be regressing.

Danno · 11-03-2013, 04:54 PM

Originally Posted by thebdj

Are you kidding me? They certainly have to do work against the rush. We got gashed. Outside of that, there was a lot of very good work in there. They were put on the field time after time because, and I never thought I would say this, our woeful offence couldn't do anything with the ball!

I'd say with 100% certainty that the offense was more of a disappointment today than the defense.

I don't think there's any doubt about it.

|Mitch| · 11-03-2013, 04:55 PM

Originally Posted by burningmetal

No mitch. You're saying that the standings are effected more by NFC games. That's completely false. Standings are effected by ALL wins and losses. We are behind right now.

Actually if the Seahawks lose against the Bucs today, making them 7-2 with a loss to a NFC/AFC team we'll be tied for the NFC lead at 6-2 with 2 losses to the AFC

11-03-2013, 04:36 PM	#61
\|Mitch\| 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Oct 2009 Location: Alexandria, La Posts: 11,303	Re: Six and Two! Originally Posted by burningmetal The first thing I did was jump on fans who don't understand common sense. Originally Posted by burningmetal What exactly did you think I was trying to differentiate? That statement above was quite clear. some fans with no common sense, apparently your definition of differentiate is different than mine Originally Posted by burningmetal And rankings, really? Rankings? This isn't college football. Records matter here. The record says we are behind the seahawks. Will we catch them? I hope so. Right now I'm more concerned with the 49ers, but regardless of who our main competition is, we will not gain home field if we don't play better on the road. And if you didn't understand what I was trying to say then you are the fan who doesn't have common sense.

11-03-2013, 04:38 PM	#62
AlaskaSaints 1000 Posts + Join Date: Nov 2010 Location: Anchorage, AK Posts: 2,484 Blog Entries: 2	Re: Six and Two! Chris Ivory SHREDDED us. That's a little funny. We still have Ingram, who had a career day at 19 yards. Hamstring looked better than Ingram's toe. We sat Robinson to play Ingram? That right there screams that we don't really need this game. #5 beats HIMSELF. Again. And somehow we'll hold on to this clown because he has a career best as well. He needs to start a car dealership or something. Ben Watson, anyone? Calling BEN Watson... I don't know, maybe take a little heat off Graham? Jimmy Graham needs coaching, not contracting. I tend to think he's luckier than he is good. It's 50/50, like his ability to catch. Overall, a miserable day. We are not a Super Bowl team, but I'd be happy to eat that. Alaska SloMotion likes this.
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11-03-2013, 04:42 PM	#63
4everSaint 500th Post Join Date: Dec 2010 Location: Madison, MS Posts: 668	Re: Six and Two! Originally Posted by AlaskaSaints Chris Ivory SHREDDED us. That's a little funny. We still have Ingram, who had a career day at 19 yards. Hamstring looked better than Ingram's toe. We sat Robinson to play Ingram? That right there screams that we don't really need this game. #5 beats HIMSELF. Again. And somehow we'll hold on to this clown because he has a career best as well. He needs to start a car dealership or something. Ben Watson, anyone? Calling BEN Watson... I don't know, maybe take a little heat off Graham? Jimmy Graham needs coaching, not contracting. I tend to think he's luckier than he is good. It's 50/50, like his ability to catch. Overall, a miserable day. We are not a Super Bowl team, but I'd be happy to eat that. Alaska Alaska for the win! Post of the day for me

11-03-2013, 04:42 PM	#64
burningmetal 1000 Posts + Join Date: Mar 2012 Posts: 3,905 Blog Entries: 3	Re: Six and Two! Originally Posted by \|Mitch\| some fans with no common sense, apparently your definition of differentiate is different than mine And if you didn't understand what I was trying to say then you are the fan who doesn't have common sense. Ok mitch, humor me. What do you mean? The only rankings I'm aware of in the NFL are Power Rankings, which are completely subjective polls written by people who's opinions have no bearing on the standings. We've lost to two AFC teams and the 'hawks have lost to one, which equals 2 losses to 1. If we end in a tie with some team and have a better NFC record than them, then it's ok. But with losses like these, it's not likely we'll see a tie.

11-03-2013, 04:45 PM	#65
\|Mitch\| 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Oct 2009 Location: Alexandria, La Posts: 11,303	Re: Six and Two! Originally Posted by burningmetal Ok mitch, humor me. What do you mean? The only rankings I'm aware of in the NFL are Power Rankings, which are completely subjective polls written by people who's opinions have no bearing on the standings. Rankings = Standings in this case, quite easy to figure out Originally Posted by burningmetal We've lost to two AFC teams and the 'hawks have lost to one, which equals 2 losses to 1. If we end in a tie with some team and have a better NFC record than them, then it's ok. But with losses like these, it's not likely we'll see a tie. What if they lose to the Bucs today? 21-7 at the half? Too much football left to be getting pissed, especially when you can't change any of it

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11-03-2013, 04:48 PM	#66
Halo Site Donor MONTHLY Join Date: May 2002 Location: New Orleans, LA Posts: 20,206 Blog Entries: 45	Re: Six and Two! Originally Posted by burningmetal Ok mitch, humor me. What do you mean? The only rankings I'm aware of in the NFL are Power Rankings, which are completely subjective polls written by people who's opinions have no bearing on the standings. We've lost to two AFC teams and the 'hawks have lost to one, which equals 2 losses to 1. If we end in a tie with some team and have a better NFC record than them, then it's ok. But with losses like these, it's not likely we'll see a tie. He's talking about NFC conference wins and losses. What "rank" or win-loss in division and conference on the path to the playoffs. Losing out of conference games are nominal compared to intra-conference games, in general. We've also won intra-division games. Our 2 losses have come to out of conference AFC teams, which you'd rather do than lose to teams in the NFC. If you lose conference games and division games early, you're constantly playing catchup trying to get back in line for the playoff hunt. How you finish in your conference deems where you fall in the playoffs. So it is a ranking per se. It's definitely a math equation and we're still doing fine in line to the playoffs, and we have the ability to correct problems and still have shot at home field advantage in the playoffs. So much football left to play, so much will happen between now and then. \|Mitch\| and thebdj like this.
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11-03-2013, 04:51 PM	#67
saintsfan1976 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: Atlanta Posts: 10,533 Blog Entries: 3	Re: Six and Two! Halo, I hear what you're saying but it's all relative. We're mathematically fine as of now but the way this team has played is not a good sign especially considering the meat of our schedule is on the horizon. Mr.Riaton likes this.

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burningmetal 1000 Posts + Join Date: Mar 2012 Posts: 3,905 Blog Entries: 3	Re: Six and Two! Originally Posted by \|Mitch\| Rankings = Standings in this case, quite easy to figure out What if they lose to the Bucs today? 21-7 at the half? Too much football left to be getting pissed, especially when you can't change any of it No mitch. You're saying that the standings are effected more by NFC games. That's completely false. Standings are effected by ALL wins and losses. We are behind right now. maybe the seahawks do lose today. and maybe WE lose to the Bucs later on, considering we almost did the first time. We have to play better. The 49ers seem to be hitting their stride whereas the Saints and Seahawks seem to be regressing.

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Danno Site Donor 2014 Truth Addict Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: Spanish Fort, AL (via NO and B/R) Posts: 24,640	Re: Six and Two! Originally Posted by thebdj Are you kidding me? They certainly have to do work against the rush. We got gashed. Outside of that, there was a lot of very good work in there. They were put on the field time after time because, and I never thought I would say this, our woeful offence couldn't do anything with the ball! I'd say with 100% certainty that the offense was more of a disappointment today than the defense. I don't think there's any doubt about it. Rell&Gold likes this.

11-03-2013, 04:55 PM	#70
\|Mitch\| 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Oct 2009 Location: Alexandria, La Posts: 11,303	Re: Six and Two! Originally Posted by burningmetal No mitch. You're saying that the standings are effected more by NFC games. That's completely false. Standings are effected by ALL wins and losses. We are behind right now. Actually if the Seahawks lose against the Bucs today, making them 7-2 with a loss to a NFC/AFC team we'll be tied for the NFC lead at 6-2 with 2 losses to the AFC

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