Six and Two!

xan · 11-04-2013, 07:09 AM

The pattern is established. We don't have the 0-line talent or scheme to run the ball nor defend against a quality front 4. We don't have the health of key players to have consistency. We are still another year away from being super bowl contenders. If we make it to the playoffs, this would be a successful season. But we will have to hold on tight to do so. We could lose 4 of the next 5 and be second in the division (D, SF, SEA, CAR) and on the outside looking in on the second wild card spot. Not unreasonable given who we've beaten and who we've lost to. Throw in a quality win and maybe it will change.

In the two losses, we've had the ball at the end with fate in our hands. Good teams win. Great teams don't get into those situations. Bad teams do what we did.

SloMotion · 11-04-2013, 07:28 AM

Originally Posted by xan

... In the two losses, we've had the ball at the end with fate in our hands. Good teams win. Great teams don't get into those situations. Bad teams do what we did.

I'll agree with that, provided we substitute "average" for "bad", eh? I'm always up for a compromise,

. Close to 50% of NFL games this season have been decided by 7pts or less and many on the last few plays ... the bad teams don't get into those situations.

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W. Kovacs · 11-04-2013, 07:34 AM

Originally Posted by xan

The pattern is established. We don't have the 0-line talent or scheme to run the ball nor defend against a quality front 4. We don't have the health of key players to have consistency. We are still another year away from being super bowl contenders. If we make it to the playoffs, this would be a successful season. But we will have to hold on tight to do so. We could lose 4 of the next 5 and be second in the division (D, SF, SEA, CAR) and on the outside looking in on the second wild card spot. Not unreasonable given who we've beaten and who we've lost to. Throw in a quality win and maybe it will change.

In the two losses, we've had the ball at the end with fate in our hands. Good teams win. Great teams don't get into those situations. Bad teams do what we did.

This.

Our goal for the year needs to be developing our rookies and avoiding career ending injuries. If we make the playoffs, great, but I'm not counting on it any more.

We draft O-Line big time in 2014 and hopefully get two more shots at a championship with Drew in 2014 and 2015.

SaintsBro · 11-04-2013, 12:09 PM

Originally Posted by W. Kovacs

This.

Our goal for the year needs to be developing our rookies and avoiding career ending injuries. If we make the playoffs, great, but I'm not counting on it any more.

We draft O-Line big time in 2014 and hopefully get two more shots at a championship with Drew in 2014 and 2015.

I agree completely, forget Super Bowl, forget the playoffs, forget winning any more games -- this year is over, our goal should be next year, building our rookies, and I think to avoid harmful injuries we should immediately sit Drew the rest of the way, to avoid any unnecessary injury to him in a meaningless game... Next year is our shot, except Dude says that it will take "a few years" to build an O-line, so then next year is gonna be a mess too, and the year after that, so I suppose we can pretty much forget about it ever happening with Drew.... we will never get the O-line together in time for Drew, so I guess we're done. 6-2, first in the division, well we can still play for pride, I suppose.

TheOak · 11-04-2013, 08:03 AM

Originally Posted by xan

The pattern is established. We don't have the 0-line talent or scheme to run the ball nor defend against a quality front 4. We don't have the health of key players to have consistency. We are still another year away from being super bowl contenders. If we make it to the playoffs, this would be a successful season. But we will have to hold on tight to do so. We could lose 4 of the next 5 and be second in the division (D, SF, SEA, CAR) and on the outside looking in on the second wild card spot. Not unreasonable given who we've beaten and who we've lost to. Throw in a quality win and maybe it will change.

In the two losses, we've had the ball at the end with fate in our hands. Good teams win. Great teams don't get into those situations. Bad teams do what we did.

We have problems on offense with teams that have a top front 7, and we have problems on defense with teams that have a top o-line... The jets happen to have a top 6 i believe of both.

How many years have we been gashed by good RBs? Its nothing new, Caddillac Williams, Blount, Lynch, Jackson...have been doing it to us since at least 2008. The difference about this season is our o-line not handling a good d-front very well.

On a positive note, we has a RB ave 4.8 YPC yesterday.

11-04-2013, 07:09 AM	#1
xan Professor Crab and Site Donor 2014 Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: Princeton Posts: 3,372 Blog Entries: 34	Re: Six and Two! The pattern is established. We don't have the 0-line talent or scheme to run the ball nor defend against a quality front 4. We don't have the health of key players to have consistency. We are still another year away from being super bowl contenders. If we make it to the playoffs, this would be a successful season. But we will have to hold on tight to do so. We could lose 4 of the next 5 and be second in the division (D, SF, SEA, CAR) and on the outside looking in on the second wild card spot. Not unreasonable given who we've beaten and who we've lost to. Throw in a quality win and maybe it will change. In the two losses, we've had the ball at the end with fate in our hands. Good teams win. Great teams don't get into those situations. Bad teams do what we did. SmashMouth likes this.
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11-04-2013, 07:28 AM	#2
SloMotion 5000 POSTS! + Join Date: Jan 2012 Posts: 6,776 Blog Entries: 15	Re: Six and Two! Originally Posted by xan ... In the two losses, we've had the ball at the end with fate in our hands. Good teams win. Great teams don't get into those situations. Bad teams do what we did. I'll agree with that, provided we substitute "average" for "bad", eh? I'm always up for a compromise, . Close to 50% of NFL games this season have been decided by 7pts or less and many on the last few plays ... the bad teams don't get into those situations. .

11-04-2013, 07:34 AM	#3
W. Kovacs 500th Post Join Date: Jan 2012 Location: Milwaukee, WI Posts: 514	Re: Six and Two! Originally Posted by xan The pattern is established. We don't have the 0-line talent or scheme to run the ball nor defend against a quality front 4. We don't have the health of key players to have consistency. We are still another year away from being super bowl contenders. If we make it to the playoffs, this would be a successful season. But we will have to hold on tight to do so. We could lose 4 of the next 5 and be second in the division (D, SF, SEA, CAR) and on the outside looking in on the second wild card spot. Not unreasonable given who we've beaten and who we've lost to. Throw in a quality win and maybe it will change. In the two losses, we've had the ball at the end with fate in our hands. Good teams win. Great teams don't get into those situations. Bad teams do what we did. This. Our goal for the year needs to be developing our rookies and avoiding career ending injuries. If we make the playoffs, great, but I'm not counting on it any more. We draft O-Line big time in 2014 and hopefully get two more shots at a championship with Drew in 2014 and 2015.

11-04-2013, 12:09 PM	#4
SaintsBro Site Donor Join Date: Sep 2010 Location: in line with my ridiculous CLEAR PLASTIC BAG Posts: 3,650 Blog Entries: 3	Re: Six and Two! Originally Posted by W. Kovacs This. Our goal for the year needs to be developing our rookies and avoiding career ending injuries. If we make the playoffs, great, but I'm not counting on it any more. We draft O-Line big time in 2014 and hopefully get two more shots at a championship with Drew in 2014 and 2015. I agree completely, forget Super Bowl, forget the playoffs, forget winning any more games -- this year is over, our goal should be next year, building our rookies, and I think to avoid harmful injuries we should immediately sit Drew the rest of the way, to avoid any unnecessary injury to him in a meaningless game... Next year is our shot, except Dude says that it will take "a few years" to build an O-line, so then next year is gonna be a mess too, and the year after that, so I suppose we can pretty much forget about it ever happening with Drew.... we will never get the O-line together in time for Drew, so I guess we're done. 6-2, first in the division, well we can still play for pride, I suppose. Halo and Boutte like this.

11-04-2013, 08:03 AM	#5
TheOak 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Dec 2009 Location: Cypress Tx. Posts: 19,039	Re: Six and Two! Originally Posted by xan The pattern is established. We don't have the 0-line talent or scheme to run the ball nor defend against a quality front 4. We don't have the health of key players to have consistency. We are still another year away from being super bowl contenders. If we make it to the playoffs, this would be a successful season. But we will have to hold on tight to do so. We could lose 4 of the next 5 and be second in the division (D, SF, SEA, CAR) and on the outside looking in on the second wild card spot. Not unreasonable given who we've beaten and who we've lost to. Throw in a quality win and maybe it will change. In the two losses, we've had the ball at the end with fate in our hands. Good teams win. Great teams don't get into those situations. Bad teams do what we did. We have problems on offense with teams that have a top front 7, and we have problems on defense with teams that have a top o-line... The jets happen to have a top 6 i believe of both. How many years have we been gashed by good RBs? Its nothing new, Caddillac Williams, Blount, Lynch, Jackson...have been doing it to us since at least 2008. The difference about this season is our o-line not handling a good d-front very well. On a positive note, we has a RB ave 4.8 YPC yesterday.

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