We should know who we are

Boutte · 11-03-2013, 10:52 PM

The Jets can be a very good team when they're on. The O stinks but the D is top notch.

hagan714 · 11-04-2013, 12:56 AM

Originally Posted by Boutte

The Jets can be a very good team when they're on. The O stinks but the D is top notch.

beg to differ on the OL the jets have a solid OL. but like the saints they are missing a few pieces or waiting for the unit to gel.

give some props to the DL here. once again they did a solid job. LB were so so as whole and we really missed our safeties.

thank god we face a rookie qb

DemonicSaint · 11-03-2013, 11:08 PM

Is this our yearly "lay an egg" game? I think so.

That being said, I'd give the playcalling to Carmichael, just to give it a shot as he had our offense rolling most of '11, and we still ranked #1 in offense (if not, near.) '12. So, why not?

Halo · 11-03-2013, 11:13 PM

Originally Posted by DemonicSaint

Is this our yearly "lay an egg" game? I think so.

That being said, I'd give the playcalling to Carmichael, just to give it a shot as he had our offense rolling most of '11, and we still ranked #1 in offense (if not, near.) '12. So, why not?

I hope they get it straight on the playcall. People can laugh at me, but I think we're just pass happy. People talk about how bad our run blocking is... but we ONLY run the ball 7 to 10 times a game and just keep throwing to Graham and Sproles.

So I'd like to see some playcall change myself. Work on that blocking scheme.
Honestly, the execution has been so poor that it doesn't really matter what plays are called - just overall poor offensive execution - PERIOD!

pherein · 11-03-2013, 11:16 PM

yeah just pisses me off. We a clearly better than that team. Jets offense is not good.

darstep · 11-03-2013, 11:20 PM

Payton has been and still is "Pass Happy".
He has been spoiled by his success with throwing the ball with Brees.
There hasn't been a real commitment to the run since Duece,
and even then running the ball was more of an after thought than basic design.
I just don't understand how they can't see the benefit to Brees if we CAN run the ball.
Especially when it comes to trying to help protect our investment and extend
Brees' career well into the next 3 years or so of his deal.
We can't even use the "behind, trying to catch up" excuse today.
I (we) love Payton, but we have to live with his unwillingness to run the ball.

dizzle88 · 11-04-2013, 03:39 AM

Originally Posted by darstep

Payton has been and still is "Pass Happy".
He has been spoiled by his success with throwing the ball with Brees.
There hasn't been a real commitment to the run since Duece,
and even then running the ball was more of an after thought than basic design.
I just don't understand how they can't see the benefit to Brees if we CAN run the ball.
Especially when it comes to trying to help protect our investment and extend
Brees' career well into the next 3 years or so of his deal.
We can't even use the "behind, trying to catch up" excuse today.
I (we) love Payton, but we have to live with his unwillingness to run the ball.

Its just like payton has brain farts every other year though

2006 - great running game
2007 - deuce injured, pass happy and drew throws 19 picks
2008 - no running game at all, drew throws 17 picks
2009 - great running game - SB
2010 - Every RB injured, lose to the 7-9 seahawks in the playoffs
2011 - great running game all year long, had about 16 rushing yards vs SF in playoffs and gave up running after the first quarter
2012 - no running game at all until after week 8

saintsfan403 · 11-03-2013, 11:56 PM

This is thread is so much better than every other one that's active right now. I just want to thank y'all for having a level headed discussion

dizzle88 · 11-04-2013, 03:36 AM

3 of 11 on third down, time to give up the reigns SP

Let carmichael take over

QBREES9 · 11-04-2013, 08:05 AM

Chris Ivory, had a great day. I guess he was pissed the Saints let him go.

11-04-2013, 12:56 AM	#2
hagan714 LB Mentallity Join Date: Dec 2005 Posts: 15,870 Blog Entries: 68	Re: We should know who we are Originally Posted by Boutte The Jets can be a very good team when they're on. The O stinks but the D is top notch. beg to differ on the OL the jets have a solid OL. but like the saints they are missing a few pieces or waiting for the unit to gel. give some props to the DL here. once again they did a solid job. LB were so so as whole and we really missed our safeties. thank god we face a rookie qb

11-03-2013, 11:08 PM	#3
DemonicSaint Registered Join Date: Feb 2013 Location: Las Vegas, NV Posts: 81	Re: We should know who we are Is this our yearly "lay an egg" game? I think so. That being said, I'd give the playcalling to Carmichael, just to give it a shot as he had our offense rolling most of '11, and we still ranked #1 in offense (if not, near.) '12. So, why not? Halo likes this.

11-03-2013, 11:13 PM	#4
Halo Site Donor MONTHLY Join Date: May 2002 Location: New Orleans, LA Posts: 20,907 Blog Entries: 45	Re: We should know who we are Originally Posted by DemonicSaint Is this our yearly "lay an egg" game? I think so. That being said, I'd give the playcalling to Carmichael, just to give it a shot as he had our offense rolling most of '11, and we still ranked #1 in offense (if not, near.) '12. So, why not? I hope they get it straight on the playcall. People can laugh at me, but I think we're just pass happy. People talk about how bad our run blocking is... but we ONLY run the ball 7 to 10 times a game and just keep throwing to Graham and Sproles. So I'd like to see some playcall change myself. Work on that blocking scheme. Honestly, the execution has been so poor that it doesn't really matter what plays are called - just overall poor offensive execution - PERIOD! Mr.Riaton likes this.

11-03-2013, 11:16 PM	#5
pherein failclownHunter Join Date: Jul 2010 Location: N.O. and V.A. Posts: 2,260 Blog Entries: 3	Re: We should know who we are yeah just pisses me off. We a clearly better than that team. Jets offense is not good. saintsfan403 likes this.

11-03-2013, 11:20 PM	#6
darstep SaintSince67 Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: PortCity Posts: 2,044	Re: We should know who we are Payton has been and still is "Pass Happy". He has been spoiled by his success with throwing the ball with Brees. There hasn't been a real commitment to the run since Duece, and even then running the ball was more of an after thought than basic design. I just don't understand how they can't see the benefit to Brees if we CAN run the ball. Especially when it comes to trying to help protect our investment and extend Brees' career well into the next 3 years or so of his deal. We can't even use the "behind, trying to catch up" excuse today. I (we) love Payton, but we have to live with his unwillingness to run the ball. saintsfan403 and WHODATINCA like this.
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11-03-2013, 10:52 PM	#1
Boutte Site Donor Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: Belle Chasse Posts: 1,701	Re: We should know who we are The Jets can be a very good team when they're on. The O stinks but the D is top notch. Halo and saintsfan403 like this.

11-04-2013, 03:39 AM	#7
dizzle88 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Oct 2009 Posts: 11,546	Re: We should know who we are Originally Posted by darstep Payton has been and still is "Pass Happy". He has been spoiled by his success with throwing the ball with Brees. There hasn't been a real commitment to the run since Duece, and even then running the ball was more of an after thought than basic design. I just don't understand how they can't see the benefit to Brees if we CAN run the ball. Especially when it comes to trying to help protect our investment and extend Brees' career well into the next 3 years or so of his deal. We can't even use the "behind, trying to catch up" excuse today. I (we) love Payton, but we have to live with his unwillingness to run the ball. Its just like payton has brain farts every other year though 2006 - great running game 2007 - deuce injured, pass happy and drew throws 19 picks 2008 - no running game at all, drew throws 17 picks 2009 - great running game - SB 2010 - Every RB injured, lose to the 7-9 seahawks in the playoffs 2011 - great running game all year long, had about 16 rushing yards vs SF in playoffs and gave up running after the first quarter 2012 - no running game at all until after week 8

11-03-2013, 11:56 PM	#8
saintsfan403 1000 Posts + Join Date: Sep 2012 Location: WHO DAT NATION Posts: 2,261	Re: We should know who we are This is thread is so much better than every other one that's active right now. I just want to thank y'all for having a level headed discussion Garry42 likes this.

11-04-2013, 03:36 AM	#9
dizzle88 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Oct 2009 Posts: 11,546	Re: We should know who we are 3 of 11 on third down, time to give up the reigns SP Let carmichael take over

11-04-2013, 08:05 AM	#10
QBREES9 Moderator Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: New Haven Ct Posts: 23,990	Re: We should know who we are Chris Ivory, had a great day. I guess he was pissed the Saints let him go.

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