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jeanpierre 11-04-2013 07:00 PM

Re: Saints O/D Line
 
Other than Evans, you can have the whole lot...

Grubbs, the supposed mauler, is getting thown like a toy (i.e. Miami, NYJ)...

DLP, a quick fix we've uncomfortably settled...

Strief, looks like a visiting Sumo whose spent five years to many on the D circuit...

And, don't get me started on Old Man Charles Brown...

We're getting our @$$es whooped; whooped...

We've got to make a REAL committment to the run, even if it's 3 and out for the first three series; let our linemen take the hurt out on these defensive linemen...

WHODATINCA 11-04-2013 07:28 PM

Re: Saints O/D Line
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by TheOak (Post 544673)
Seeing how we preform on the field is one thing, seeing how our players rank against the rest of the league is another.

Total Pressure Allowed (Sacks, Hits, Hurries) Ranked#5

Pass Blocking Efficiency
Center (DLP) #5,
Guards (Evans #8/Grubs #20),
Tackles (Strief #1 Brown #42),
*Guards and Tackles are ranked out of 57 players.

Run Blocking Efficiency
DLP (-3.6)
Evans (-3.4)
Grubs (7.6)
Strief (15)
Brown (-4.7)

Where are you getting these numbers? Way cool.

WHODATINCA 11-04-2013 07:32 PM

Re: Saints O/D Line
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by TheOak (Post 544673)
Seeing how we preform on the field is one thing, seeing how our players rank against the rest of the league is another.

Total Pressure Allowed (Sacks, Hits, Hurries) Ranked#5

Pass Blocking Efficiency
Center (DLP) #5,
Guards (Evans #8/Grubs #20),
Tackles (Strief #1 Brown #42),
*Guards and Tackles are ranked out of 57 players.

Run Blocking Efficiency
DLP (-3.6)
Evans (-3.4)
Grubs (7.6)
Strief (15)
Brown (-4.7)

Where are you getting these numbers? Way cool. What is PFT?

blackangold 11-04-2013 07:38 PM

Re: Saints O/D Line
 
Our Guards this year are not doing well. Evans is hurt and Grubbs never really played well for us. Brees is best when able to step up in the pocket which he hasnt been able to do this year. Wouldn't mind Harris replacing Grubbs, he is a big boy and did well when playing for Strief.

exile 11-04-2013 08:31 PM

Re: Saints O/D Line
 
I wish we still had Bushrod. :/

xan 11-04-2013 08:39 PM

Re: Saints O/D Line
 
Letting nicks go was the killer. Too much pressure up front. Think he'd come back with a pay cut if I could cure his MRSA? Avoid death, Super Bowl ring, 3m/year pay cut?

halloween 65 11-04-2013 08:45 PM

Re: Saints O/D Line
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Danno (Post 544762)
Looking on the bright side as well, replacing a woefully under-performing O-lineman with a hungry reserve probably isn't that much of a drop-off is it?

The way the starters are playing it could be an upgrade. The Jets D-line looked like pro-bowlers against us, I hate to think what San-Fran, Bengals or K.C. would look like or do? It could get real ugly.

saintsfan403 11-04-2013 08:47 PM

Re: Saints O/D Line
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by WHODATINCA (Post 544783)
Where are you getting these numbers? Way cool. What is PFT?

Pro-football Talk

TheOak 11-05-2013 07:09 AM

Re: Saints O/D Line
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Danno (Post 544675)
DLP our 2nd best pass blocker huh?

Here is a twist on that stat. While DLP may be making the blocks... There are no stats that cover not making the right calls on the line which is the Centers job. This year in particular and mostly in the last few games, am i the only one that noticed a gross amount of penalties on Brees while he stands at the line and tried to call out coverages? That is DLPs frikken job to do, DLP/the Center is responsible for calling the blocking assignments of the front 7, drew should be looking for mismatches in the secondary.

This would explain the delay of game penalties, and Drew not having the time to scan all of his receivers match ups in time. Would make logical sense that if you are QB and having to make the line calls for your line to protect your azz and they are not doing it well, when the ball is snapped you have only a few seconds find the receiver of choice. In Drew's case he doesn't have the time to find the "open" miss matches, so he goes where he knows will be the safest throw. Jimmy Graham.

I could be dead wrong but it makes logical sense of a lot of things for me personally.

dizzle88 11-05-2013 07:17 AM

Re: Saints O/D Line
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by TheOak (Post 544894)
Here is a twist on that stat. While DLP may be making the blocks... There are no stats that cover not making the right calls on the line which is the Centers job. This year in particular and mostly in the last few games, am i the only one that noticed a gross amount of penalties on Brees while he stands at the line and tried to call out coverages? That is DLPs frikken job to do, DLP/the Center is responsible for calling the blocking assignments of the front 7, drew should be looking for mismatches in the secondary.

This would explain the delay of game penalties, and Drew not having the time to scan all of his receivers match ups in time. Would make logical sense that if you are QB and having to make the line calls for your line to protect your azz and they are not doing it well, when the ball is snapped you have only a few seconds find the receiver of choice. In Drew's case he doesn't have the time to find the "open" miss matches, so he goes where he knows will be the safest throw. Jimmy Graham.

I could be dead wrong but it makes logical sense of a lot of things for me personally.

I dont think you are that far wrong, brees seemed to take ages to snap the ball vs jets and when the play clock ran out, it showed brees talking to DLP, he didnt look happy

Letting Kromer go may have cost us more than we realize, cant run block, struggling to pass block


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