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QB's identify the D they are in. You are right Center does make the assignments but Bree's has his job to do as well.

The problem is they try out out guess the other team. At some point you just go to the line and run the play that is called. Other wise its a lot order to get the other team to guess the snap count if you are always going on 2.

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Originally Posted by Euphoria (Post 544901)

The glaring delay of game penalties are the ones that come right after a time out... There is some serious confusion going on pre-snap with calls etc. when you are having a delay of game after a penalty.

It is time to be Drew Brees and stop trying to be Payton manning. I know it doesn't help that we don't run well and have no veteran receivers at 100@... I believe that is why Drew opts for the chess match.

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Originally Posted by TheOak (Post 544894)

Here is a twist on that stat. While DLP may be making the blocks... There are no stats that cover not making the right calls on the line which is the Centers job. This year in particular and mostly in the last few games, am i the only one that noticed a gross amount of penalties on Brees while he stands at the line and tried to call out coverages? That is DLPs frikken job to do, DLP/the Center is responsible for calling the blocking assignments of the front 7, drew should be looking for mismatches in the secondary.

This would explain the delay of game penalties, and Drew not having the time to scan all of his receivers match ups in time. Would make logical sense that if you are QB and having to make the line calls for your line to protect your azz and they are not doing it well, when the ball is snapped you have only a few seconds find the receiver of choice. In Drew's case he doesn't have the time to find the "open" miss matches, so he goes where he knows will be the safest throw. Jimmy Graham.

I could be dead wrong but it makes logical sense of a lot of things for me personally.

I like your theory BUT...do you have any explanation why it's happening now, but didn't happen in 2011, 2010, when it's been De La Puente at center the whole time? Maybe De La Puente is not taking to the new zone blocking scheme?

And there have been plenty of snaps in earlier games this year, I've noticed in home games in the Dome, where it came right down to the "00" on the clock, including some where the clock was clearly expired on double-zero and the refs have sorta "given" Drew an extra beat or portion of a second, like as if "00" counts as its own extra second.

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This just proves that Charles Brown has no business being the LT protecting Drew Brees' blindside. He is utterly pathetic. I would rather we have given Armstead the opputunity to start and get better than to keep running Brown out there. With a better LT the O-Line as a whole would have better productivity.

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And as far as De La Puenta goes, we should've re-signed Jonathon Goodwin after the 2010 season. Remember we thought we were getting Kruetz from Da Bears, but he would up being washed up and quitting and we never tried to improve from there. We now have no choice. With an adequate Center, I believe Grubbs can be servicable. But he'll never equal up to Carl Nicks.

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Originally Posted by SaintsBro (Post 544934)

We had a different line in 2011 and 2010... We had a healthy line for the most part in 2011 and 2010. I dont think Strief and Evans are at 100% yet.

I would say its the zone blocking scheme. Previously our o-line blocked who was in front of them, now its much more complex and easier to miss a block by .2s when a LB jumps the snap.

A good judge of what is causing it is to know that the zone blocking is for run plays and not passing plays. Where to defenses shoot the most of our gaps and give us problems? On run plays... They are all over our RBs in the back field.

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Originally Posted by WhoDatFan26 (Post 544952)

I believe Grubbs can be servicable. But he'll never equal up to Carl Nicks.

Agreed, but I am not convinced that even Carl Nicks will ever equal up to Carl Nicks. From 2008-2010, we got his best football. But as far back as training camp in 2010 (benched for a few days) and the Rams game in 2011, Nicks was already showing subtle signs of a dropoff. Even without the MRSA and the toe/foot thing.

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Originally Posted by SaintsBro (Post 544974)

Thats fair but those issues cant be addressed until the off season. I am trying to find the possible reasons for the poor play now and burn life theorizing possible solutions lol.

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I agree that Carl will never regain his 2009-2011 Dominance but if Grubbs can equal up to 75% of what Carl was the line would be 65% more effective. As it has been pointed out before, our line is really dependent on the guards and center more than the Tackles. Grubbs needs to step it up.

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I believe it, oddly enough when you watch the film, Evans and Brown seem to be responsible for the O-line woes this season as they get pushed back allowing the lineman to get through.