Saints not in ‘crisis’ mode after loss

whybag · 11-05-2013, 09:21 PM

Originally Posted by xan

We are not going to shotgun an A Gap run when every team stunts through the A Gap to disrupt Brees' line of sight. That would be like running an end-around on 4th and inches with your slowest reserve tight end.

That's crazy talk, who would even think of such a move?

Danno · 11-05-2013, 06:08 PM

Originally Posted by blackangold

Not concerned about the D at all.

We need to change our zone blocking scheme, its not working. Also, when is the last time we ran a draw play? Or even handed the ball off out of the shotgun?

I've always thought the draw, pitch, shuttle pass, delayed hand-off, end around (but not with a 3rd string TE on 4th and one with no one blocking the RDE).

I remember that hand-off to Reggie as Devery came around for the end-around. That play worked a lot. I haven't seen it in a long time. Sometimes we'd hand it off to the RB, sometimes pitch it to Devery...

I loved that play.

skymike · 11-05-2013, 06:58 PM

Originally Posted by Danno

I've always thought the draw, pitch, shuttle pass, delayed hand-off, end around (but not with a 3rd string TE on 4th and one with no one blocking the RDE).

I remember that hand-off to Reggie as Devery came around for the end-around. That play worked a lot. I haven't seen it in a long time. Sometimes we'd hand it off to the RB, sometimes pitch it to Devery...

I loved that play.

didnt we fumble on that play vs. Tampa in '07 and lose the game?

blackangold · 11-05-2013, 08:18 PM

Originally Posted by Danno

I've always thought the draw, pitch, shuttle pass, delayed hand-off, end around (but not with a 3rd string TE on 4th and one with no one blocking the RDE).

I remember that hand-off to Reggie as Devery came around for the end-around. That play worked a lot. I haven't seen it in a long time. Sometimes we'd hand it off to the RB, sometimes pitch it to Devery...

I loved that play.

Yup... seems like we have taken the flash out of the running game. There is no more mis-direction within the zone scheme. I hope it changes but I doubt it will.

Rugby Saint II · 11-06-2013, 03:46 PM

Originally Posted by Danno

I've always thought the draw, pitch, shuttle pass, delayed hand-off, end around (but not with a 3rd string TE on 4th and one with no one blocking the RDE).

I remember that hand-off to Reggie as Devery came around for the end-around. That play worked a lot. I haven't seen it in a long time. Sometimes we'd hand it off to the RB, sometimes pitch it to Devery...

I loved that play.

That is the kind of stuff that we are missing.

The Dude · 11-05-2013, 09:26 PM

No they aren't, but they should be in my ass is on fire mode because Payton lit a bonfire.

Danno · 11-06-2013, 07:58 AM

Originally Posted by The Dude

No they aren't, but they should be in my ass is on fire mode because Payton lit a bonfire.

Say what?

foreverfan · 11-06-2013, 08:37 AM

WHODATINCA · 11-06-2013, 04:40 PM

I want a smashmouth, in your face, up the gut, blow some MF'er up run game!!! Give it to me NOW.

On the other hand, I notice improvement in our run game with PT and KR. Yay. But, still not consistent and there is an obvious lack of commitment.

Danno · 11-06-2013, 04:47 PM

Originally Posted by WHODATINCA

I want a smashmouth, in your face, up the gut, blow some MF'er up run game!!! Give it to me NOW.

On the other hand, I notice improvement in our run game with PT and KR. Yay. But, still not consistent and there is an obvious lack of commitment.

You know with the porous blocking it might serve us well to give the ball to RB's with good enough moves to avoid being corralled in the backfield.

We might get good results out of Robinson and even Cadet.

11-05-2013, 09:21 PM	#1
whybag 100th Post Join Date: Oct 2013 Posts: 365	Re: Saints not in ‘crisis’ mode after loss Originally Posted by xan We are not going to shotgun an A Gap run when every team stunts through the A Gap to disrupt Brees' line of sight. That would be like running an end-around on 4th and inches with your slowest reserve tight end. That's crazy talk, who would even think of such a move?
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11-05-2013, 06:08 PM	#2
Danno Truth Addict Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: Spanish Fort, AL (via NO and B/R) Posts: 24,758	Re: Saints not in ‘crisis’ mode after loss Originally Posted by blackangold Not concerned about the D at all. We need to change our zone blocking scheme, its not working. Also, when is the last time we ran a draw play? Or even handed the ball off out of the shotgun? I've always thought the draw, pitch, shuttle pass, delayed hand-off, end around (but not with a 3rd string TE on 4th and one with no one blocking the RDE). I remember that hand-off to Reggie as Devery came around for the end-around. That play worked a lot. I haven't seen it in a long time. Sometimes we'd hand it off to the RB, sometimes pitch it to Devery... I loved that play. Rugby Saint II likes this.

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skymike E. Side Cholo Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: The Barrio, H-town Posts: 6,089	Re: Saints not in ‘crisis’ mode after loss Originally Posted by Danno I've always thought the draw, pitch, shuttle pass, delayed hand-off, end around (but not with a 3rd string TE on 4th and one with no one blocking the RDE). I remember that hand-off to Reggie as Devery came around for the end-around. That play worked a lot. I haven't seen it in a long time. Sometimes we'd hand it off to the RB, sometimes pitch it to Devery... I loved that play. didnt we fumble on that play vs. Tampa in '07 and lose the game?

11-05-2013, 08:18 PM	#4
blackangold 1000 Posts + Join Date: Aug 2011 Posts: 3,422	Re: Saints not in ‘crisis’ mode after loss Originally Posted by Danno I've always thought the draw, pitch, shuttle pass, delayed hand-off, end around (but not with a 3rd string TE on 4th and one with no one blocking the RDE). I remember that hand-off to Reggie as Devery came around for the end-around. That play worked a lot. I haven't seen it in a long time. Sometimes we'd hand it off to the RB, sometimes pitch it to Devery... I loved that play. Yup... seems like we have taken the flash out of the running game. There is no more mis-direction within the zone scheme. I hope it changes but I doubt it will.

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Rugby Saint II Bounty Money $$$ Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: 5800 Airline Dr. Metairie, LA. Posts: 24,182	Re: Saints not in ‘crisis’ mode after loss Originally Posted by Danno I've always thought the draw, pitch, shuttle pass, delayed hand-off, end around (but not with a 3rd string TE on 4th and one with no one blocking the RDE). I remember that hand-off to Reggie as Devery came around for the end-around. That play worked a lot. I haven't seen it in a long time. Sometimes we'd hand it off to the RB, sometimes pitch it to Devery... I loved that play. That is the kind of stuff that we are missing.

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The Dude 5000 POSTS! + Join Date: Jul 2011 Posts: 9,063	Re: Saints not in ‘crisis’ mode after loss No they aren't, but they should be in my ass is on fire mode because Payton lit a bonfire. skymike and saintsfan403 like this.
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Danno Truth Addict Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: Spanish Fort, AL (via NO and B/R) Posts: 24,758	Re: Saints not in ‘crisis’ mode after loss Originally Posted by The Dude No they aren't, but they should be in my ass is on fire mode because Payton lit a bonfire. Say what? Barry from MS likes this.

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WHODATINCA Site Donor Join Date: Aug 2013 Location: South Bay Posts: 3,784	Re: Saints not in ‘crisis’ mode after loss I want a smashmouth, in your face, up the gut, blow some MF'er up run game!!! Give it to me NOW. On the other hand, I notice improvement in our run game with PT and KR. Yay. But, still not consistent and there is an obvious lack of commitment.

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Danno Truth Addict Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: Spanish Fort, AL (via NO and B/R) Posts: 24,758	Re: Saints not in ‘crisis’ mode after loss Originally Posted by WHODATINCA I want a smashmouth, in your face, up the gut, blow some MF'er up run game!!! Give it to me NOW. On the other hand, I notice improvement in our run game with PT and KR. Yay. But, still not consistent and there is an obvious lack of commitment. You know with the porous blocking it might serve us well to give the ball to RB's with good enough moves to avoid being corralled in the backfield. We might get good results out of Robinson and even Cadet. skymike and WHODATINCA like this.

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