Pro Football Talk says Saints' defense "not particularly talented"
 

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LOL.

Wonder what exactly the Saints have to do before people wake up. LOLOLOL. They are not perfect by any means but to say this team is "not particularly talented" on defense is just about the dumbest thing I've ever heard.

The whole article is fraught with downing the Saints in general. Darrin Gantt is a terrible writer and never passes up an opportunity to bash us, even after one of the most dominating wins in recent memory.

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Doesn't make much sense, but whatever... Haters gon' hate...

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Where were they last year, LAST, i was never a Rob Ryan but Iam now.

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Straight up butt whupping

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I would just like to hear the rationale behind calling a defense with players like Cameron Jordan, Junior Galette, Curtis Lofton, Keenan Lewis, Jabari Greer and Kenny Vaccaro is not particularly talented and especially not when they have been one of the league's top defenses all year long.

As my dad would say "This guy is eat up with the dumba$$."

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He also wrote:
If the guy knew ANYTHING about the talent on this team, he would know that Jimmy Graham is a tight end in name only as he doesn't do much blocking at all. Graham is a wide receiver, pure and simple.

According to his math, we're always dangerously low on tight ends. That's if we used a tight end like other teams do. SO, consider the source!

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He probably doesn't also know that Josh Hill has been playing a lot and looks pretty decent. And is of course being pessimistic about Watson. Watson didn't look bad walking off, I would bet money he plays next week.

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I find that the only decent football site to be walterfootball.com, the other ones always seem to be fighting for the most redundant site ever award

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the whole 'considering who they're playing with' comment certainly refers to the fact that we don't have many overpriced free agent acquisitions like osi umenyiora or deshon goldson. cause those guys turned out to be really, really good signings

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f*ck, the more I read this, the more I hate this guy. What a retard

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Respectable at times?

You mean the way that Dallas didn't convert a 3rd down all night, when they have been torching defenses for weeks

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Curtis Lofton and David Hawthorne were the best LB's on the market when we got them. Haralson was a beast for SF.

Cam Jordan was a 1st round pick. So was Vacarro and Jenkins. Harper was a 2nd. Bunkley was considered the best 3-4 NT in the league in Denver.

Jabari Greer is extremely under the radar. Keenan Lewis was the top CB on the market besides Nnamdi. Corey White will be a star.

No homework was done.

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Watson's not going to play. Check the replays, he was drooling on the ground, which is NOT a good sign. I'm worried about his return, but more than that, worried for him.

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Greer got exposed for the backfield peeker he is. whenever he gets burned it's because he's thinking pick 6 rather than defend.

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no the saints are not overly talented. pro bowlers do not fill the defensive ranks, what we have is a solid unit of players. same group from last year really. so we are seeing the old saints defense once again after a year in limbo.

no individual flash for the broadcasters to talk about. just a unit

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Greer had a inconsistent night

Made a couple pass breakups, then got burned a couple times, dropped an easy pick 6

Even though I love how our D has played, greer has become the weakness in our secondary after being the strength for so many years, corey white will replace him

Corey white and keenan are the future at CB for us

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no the saints are not overly talented. pro bowlers do not fill the defensive ranks, what we have is a solid unit of players. same group from last year really. so we are seeing the old saints defense once again after a year in limbo.

no individual flash for the broadcasters to talk about. just a unit

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Try considering the source....

Darin Gantt
Covered Panthers for 14 years.. Use to write a Panther Blog - I would say he has an axe to grind.
Works for NBC - Did Costa have to open with a frikken Bounty Comment?

He is a Carolina Panther homer...

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How does a national publication allow such obviously partial drivel to be presented on their site.

The gist of this article is, This Cowboy _______ is a good player too bad so and so was hurt, the Saints suck. The Cowboys are a really good team, too bad ________ was hurt. The Saints only look like a good team, how about that ________ guy for the Cowboys? He's really good except that because of ________ he looked bad. The Saints suck.

Good job PFT!

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They don't "allow it" brother man.. They reward it.

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Apparently this dope was watching another game.

Are we the 2000 Ravens or the Dome Patrol of 1992? Absolutely not!


But this is a GOOD defense. It has some holes, but it also is capable of pitching multiple 3 and outs every game.

Dallas stood toe to toe with Manning in the 50 burger bowl, so they are capable of scoring and we all but shut that down tonight.

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Hill has been serviceable, and we have used Harris as a TE-eligible just like Strief 3-4 years ago.
Yes, Graham is hurting, but he was still out there in the 4th making catches. No way he takes the field if he is at risk

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Exactly.
4th in scoring D
what other stats even matter?
First play from scrimmage Humber makes the stuff. Herring has 5 tackles to lead team. Johnson and Walker get sacks. Corey White knocks down 2 passes...Everyone contributes

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I hope they tape this article up over the doorway to the locker room, so everyone on our defense sees it and reads it every day during the week before we take on the 49ers.

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Absolutely right, and it'd sure be different if he were getting Pick 6's all the time. Last I checked, he hasn't. Spot on.

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Not particularly talented. We were without 2 starting safeties with 2 banged up linebackers and held the Boys to 193 yards...all game. The D really only gave up 14 points considering the spec teams fumble. Remember, the Girls were 4th in scoring with 27.4 per game; 19th with 327.8 yards per game.

Folks, talent isn't the sole ingredient for automatic "W's". I wouldn't get too upset with the national media calling this defense "untalented". Giving up 18.1 per game for 5th in the NFL...suck it hard Gantt, as he is not a particularly talented writer or thinker, either.

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I honestly didn't have an issue with most of the article. I think we can all agree with his assessment of our oline. I can't disagree with what he said about ingram either. I also think he's correct about our defense. It wasn't stocked with pro-bowlers like the chiefs. It's just a really solid, well coached defense that has some decent depth.

There are no gamebuster d-lineman or other worldly linebackers getting 30 tackles a game. Just guys that are doing their job.

The one thing I take exception to is how he's downplaying the overall success of the defense. At the end of the day, the defense is putting up numbers comparable to some of the more "talented" defenses in the league and that should be respected more regardless of the lack of big names. We took one of the league's best offenses last night and completely destroyed it. No need to call our defense all-world but at least respect the results.

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They are confusing "big names" for "talent." We have several players on this defense who are elite performers at their position this year. Show me all the big-name defensive linemen in the league, Cam Jordan has outperformed just about all of them. Same for Lewis at corner, and I suspect our safety play is around the top of the league despite the revolving door of injuries.

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Wonder how 'talented' we'll be when our two starting safeties are healthy, and our MLB's are 100%.
and no way the 'un'-talented Jordan was anywhere near 100% last night

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If we don't have any talent why have they compaired Jordan to JJ Watt all year long

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I would take a solid D unit over a few talented players day in and day out. Our D seems to play way better than I expected this season. An example of very talented players that do not play as a solid unit is Dallas, they have more talent than most teams in the league but do not play well together. It's not all about big names but more of what to do when to do, thats all, but it's much easier said than done.

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I hope Watson doesn't play. The guy has a history with concussions and this one looked awful. I hope they sit him for a week. His health is more important at this point. Vaccaro for the same reason will not play against the 49ers.

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thank that little fart that put us on the worst def. train ever, it will take awhile to outlive that bullshyt year of stats that the little turyd never tried to change his way of thinking. payton showed his support in firing him.

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Maybe we aren't talented from a personnel standpoint. Not every team has dream team players like Ware, Talib, Suh, Willis, etc, but I guarantee we do more with less than any other team in the league.
We also have a lot of young players on the team that will be talent that are relatively unknown at this point. Vaccaro, Jr, Jordan, etc.

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Pro Football Talk "not particularly talented" enough said.

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Calling Gantt the national media is an insult to the national media. :)

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We need Vaccaro for this game and we need him badly.:bng:

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We will be fine. Their offense is not what you think it is, and not what it was last year or the year before that.

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Not saying I don't want Vaccaro back, but Harper and Jenkins are more than sufficient for this game. No. 7 couldn't complete a deep ball last week and our secondary is no longer haemorrhaging yards...would rather have Jenks and Bush in deep coverage and Harper in the box. Plus no Vernon Davis for the 9ers this week.