Pro Football Talk says Saints' defense "not particularly talented"

Jack Vegas · 11-11-2013, 12:10 AM

Sunday night wrap-up: Brees, Saints offense rolling | ProFootballTalk

LOL.

Wonder what exactly the Saints have to do before people wake up. LOLOLOL. They are not perfect by any means but to say this team is "not particularly talented" on defense is just about the dumbest thing I've ever heard.

The whole article is fraught with downing the Saints in general. Darrin Gantt is a terrible writer and never passes up an opportunity to bash us, even after one of the most dominating wins in recent memory.

|Mitch| · 11-11-2013, 12:17 AM

Ryan’s never proven to be long-term sustainable as a coordinator, but the difference he’s made in the Saints defense has been profound.

They’re not a particularly talented unit. They don’t have to be. But he’s helped the league’s worst defense ever become respectable at times, and that’s enough considering who they’re playing with.

Doesn't make much sense, but whatever... Haters gon' hate...

st thomas · 11-11-2013, 09:32 PM

Originally Posted by |Mitch|

Doesn't make much sense, but whatever... Haters gon' hate...

thank that little fart that put us on the worst def. train ever, it will take awhile to outlive that bullshyt year of stats that the little turyd never tried to change his way of thinking. payton showed his support in firing him.

QBREES9 · 11-11-2013, 12:39 AM

Where were they last year, LAST, i was never a Rob Ryan but Iam now.

triman · 11-11-2013, 12:49 AM

Straight up butt whupping

Jack Vegas · 11-11-2013, 01:09 AM

I would just like to hear the rationale behind calling a defense with players like Cameron Jordan, Junior Galette, Curtis Lofton, Keenan Lewis, Jabari Greer and Kenny Vaccaro is not particularly talented and especially not when they have been one of the league's top defenses all year long.

As my dad would say "This guy is eat up with the dumba$$."

Halo · 11-11-2013, 01:17 AM

He also wrote:

But they’re also close to being dangerously thin at tight end. That was underscored when backup Benjamin Watson hit his head on the turf in the third quarter. He was diagnosed with a concussion, and didn’t return. Watson had three concussions in 2011 with the Browns (the third one landing him on IR), so there’s always going to be a concern there.

Jimmy Graham is getting by despite obvious pain, as his foot injury seems the kind of thing he’s going to have to manage all year.

So as good as they look at the moment, there’s still danger lurking around the corner.

If the guy knew ANYTHING about the talent on this team, he would know that Jimmy Graham is a tight end in name only as he doesn't do much blocking at all. Graham is a wide receiver, pure and simple.

According to his math, we're always dangerously low on tight ends. That's if we used a tight end like other teams do. SO, consider the source!

Jack Vegas · 11-11-2013, 01:22 AM

He probably doesn't also know that Josh Hill has been playing a lot and looks pretty decent. And is of course being pessimistic about Watson. Watson didn't look bad walking off, I would bet money he plays next week.

ScottF · 11-11-2013, 07:54 AM

Originally Posted by Jack Vegas

He probably doesn't also know that Josh Hill has been playing a lot and looks pretty decent. And is of course being pessimistic about Watson. Watson didn't look bad walking off, I would bet money he plays next week.

Hill has been serviceable, and we have used Harris as a TE-eligible just like Strief 3-4 years ago.
Yes, Graham is hurting, but he was still out there in the 4th making catches. No way he takes the field if he is at risk

blackangold · 11-11-2013, 09:12 PM

Originally Posted by Jack Vegas

He probably doesn't also know that Josh Hill has been playing a lot and looks pretty decent. And is of course being pessimistic about Watson. Watson didn't look bad walking off, I would bet money he plays next week.

I hope Watson doesn't play. The guy has a history with concussions and this one looked awful. I hope they sit him for a week. His health is more important at this point. Vaccaro for the same reason will not play against the 49ers.

11-11-2013, 12:10 AM	#1
Jack Vegas 1000 Posts + Join Date: Jul 2011 Posts: 2,254	Pro Football Talk says Saints' defense "not particularly talented" Sunday night wrap-up: Brees, Saints offense rolling \| ProFootballTalk LOL. Wonder what exactly the Saints have to do before people wake up. LOLOLOL. They are not perfect by any means but to say this team is "not particularly talented" on defense is just about the dumbest thing I've ever heard. The whole article is fraught with downing the Saints in general. Darrin Gantt is a terrible writer and never passes up an opportunity to bash us, even after one of the most dominating wins in recent memory.
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11-11-2013, 12:17 AM	#2
\|Mitch\| 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Oct 2009 Location: Alexandria, La Posts: 11,303	Re: Pro Football Talk says Saints' defense "not particularly talented" Ryan’s never proven to be long-term sustainable as a coordinator, but the difference he’s made in the Saints defense has been profound. They’re not a particularly talented unit. They don’t have to be. But he’s helped the league’s worst defense ever become respectable at times, and that’s enough considering who they’re playing with. Doesn't make much sense, but whatever... Haters gon' hate...

11-11-2013, 09:32 PM	#3
st thomas Site Donor 2018 Join Date: Dec 2009 Location: lafayette Posts: 7,753	Re: Pro Football Talk says Saints' defense "not particularly talented" Originally Posted by \|Mitch\| Doesn't make much sense, but whatever... Haters gon' hate... thank that little fart that put us on the worst def. train ever, it will take awhile to outlive that bullshyt year of stats that the little turyd never tried to change his way of thinking. payton showed his support in firing him.

11-11-2013, 12:39 AM	#4
QBREES9 Moderator Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: New Haven Ct Posts: 23,989	Re: Pro Football Talk says Saints' defense "not particularly talented" Where were they last year, LAST, i was never a Rob Ryan but Iam now.

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triman 500th Post Join Date: Mar 2003 Posts: 783	Re: Pro Football Talk says Saints' defense "not particularly talented" Straight up butt whupping
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11-11-2013, 01:09 AM	#6
Jack Vegas 1000 Posts + Join Date: Jul 2011 Posts: 2,254	Re: Pro Football Talk says Saints' defense "not particularly talented" I would just like to hear the rationale behind calling a defense with players like Cameron Jordan, Junior Galette, Curtis Lofton, Keenan Lewis, Jabari Greer and Kenny Vaccaro is not particularly talented and especially not when they have been one of the league's top defenses all year long. As my dad would say "This guy is eat up with the dumba$$."
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11-11-2013, 01:17 AM	#7
Halo Site Donor MONTHLY Join Date: May 2002 Location: New Orleans, LA Posts: 20,860 Blog Entries: 45	Re: Pro Football Talk says Saints' defense "not particularly talented" He also wrote: But they’re also close to being dangerously thin at tight end. That was underscored when backup Benjamin Watson hit his head on the turf in the third quarter. He was diagnosed with a concussion, and didn’t return. Watson had three concussions in 2011 with the Browns (the third one landing him on IR), so there’s always going to be a concern there. Jimmy Graham is getting by despite obvious pain, as his foot injury seems the kind of thing he’s going to have to manage all year. So as good as they look at the moment, there’s still danger lurking around the corner. If the guy knew ANYTHING about the talent on this team, he would know that Jimmy Graham is a tight end in name only as he doesn't do much blocking at all. Graham is a wide receiver, pure and simple. According to his math, we're always dangerously low on tight ends. That's if we used a tight end like other teams do. SO, consider the source! Rueben Mayes likes this.

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Jack Vegas 1000 Posts + Join Date: Jul 2011 Posts: 2,254	Re: Pro Football Talk says Saints' defense "not particularly talented" He probably doesn't also know that Josh Hill has been playing a lot and looks pretty decent. And is of course being pessimistic about Watson. Watson didn't look bad walking off, I would bet money he plays next week. ScottF likes this.
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11-11-2013, 07:54 AM	#9
ScottF 5000 POSTS! + Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: Atlanta Posts: 6,324	Re: Pro Football Talk says Saints' defense "not particularly talented" Originally Posted by Jack Vegas He probably doesn't also know that Josh Hill has been playing a lot and looks pretty decent. And is of course being pessimistic about Watson. Watson didn't look bad walking off, I would bet money he plays next week. Hill has been serviceable, and we have used Harris as a TE-eligible just like Strief 3-4 years ago. Yes, Graham is hurting, but he was still out there in the 4th making catches. No way he takes the field if he is at risk

11-11-2013, 09:12 PM	#10
blackangold 1000 Posts + Join Date: Aug 2011 Posts: 3,422	Re: Pro Football Talk says Saints' defense "not particularly talented" Originally Posted by Jack Vegas He probably doesn't also know that Josh Hill has been playing a lot and looks pretty decent. And is of course being pessimistic about Watson. Watson didn't look bad walking off, I would bet money he plays next week. I hope Watson doesn't play. The guy has a history with concussions and this one looked awful. I hope they sit him for a week. His health is more important at this point. Vaccaro for the same reason will not play against the 49ers. MarchingOn likes this.

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