The most boneheaded SF play of the game

44Champs · 11-18-2013, 09:03 AM

It wasnt Ahmad Brooks clothesline sack of Brees, and it wasnt the hit on Sproles after he fair-catched a punt. The biggest boneheaded play came from Kaepernick, when he scrambled out of bounds on 3rd & 19, stopping the clock and giving Brees more time to engineer the game-winning drive. SF had been winning despite Kaepernick, and the fans are probably now wishing that they had Alex Smith instead.

dam1953 · 11-18-2013, 09:30 AM

I agree. A great QB gets the first down. A good QB stays in bounds on 3rd down to eat another 30 secs+ off the clock before punting. What does this make Kap, average or less in my opinion.

Do you notice how all of the wonder kid QB's in the class of 2012 are less than wonderful this year. Luck is the only one that seems to be holding up...for now. IMO this supports the observation that "athletic" QB's don't win consistently in the NFL. Give me a QB with ability between his ears.

SloMotion · 11-18-2013, 09:40 AM

Originally Posted by dam1953

I agree. A great QB gets the first down. A good QB stays in bounds on 3rd down to eat another 30 secs+ off the clock before punting. What does this make Kap, average or less in my opinion.

Do you notice how all of the wonder kid QB's in the class of 2012 are less than wonderful this year. Luck is the only one that seems to be holding up...for now. IMO this supports the observation that "athletic" QB's don't win consistently in the NFL. Give me a QB with ability between his ears.

It's the 'sophomore slump' ... once they get some tape on ya', it's all about what you do after that. Russell Wilson (SEA) seems to be weathering the storm best outta' all of 'em and RGIII has the injury-thing working against him, but I usually wait 3-4 seasons before I get too hard on 'em.

Kaepernick is athletic enough, he just gotta' get his head right, IMO.

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Mardigras9 · 11-18-2013, 10:15 AM

He looked overwhelmed all day. Just a mental mistake he'll learn from. Then again, he would have had to take a shot from a linebacker (Hawthorne maybe) to try to make it. With his ability, surprised he didn't try.

vpheughan · 11-18-2013, 12:37 PM

Now we know why no one ever heard of Kaepernick before the draft. He threw for 127 yards!! You catch Dungy hating on the Saints again? Carolina, Carolina! What a fool!

Hey Harbaugh! Who's the faceless name now? What a jerk!!

exile · 11-18-2013, 12:41 PM

Originally Posted by vpheughan

You catch Dungy hating on the Saints again? Carolina, Carolina! What a fool!

I heard that this morning. I can't hate on Dungy though since he is a defense guy. And you can't argue with the Panthers defense. We'll beat them twice though.

Halo · 11-18-2013, 01:12 PM

"I didn't hit him with my hand or my helmet," Brooks told reporters, according to the San Francisco Chronicle. "I basically bear-hugged him. That's just how football is played. I think this s--- is bull----. Football, the way they call stuff these days, it's watered down. It ain't real no more."

Brees, on the other hand, believes the call was correct.

"All I remember is just getting clothes-lined in the chin, and as I'm on the ground I'm saying, 'That's got to be a flag,''' Brees said.

LINK

Brooks isn’t the only person who feels that way, but the rules governing hits on quarterbacks aren’t going to go anywhere.

LINK

My take - it was a clear clothesline swing and the moving gif's and other images do not do it justice until you see it in its entirety. Last I checked the clothesline move was illegal in the NFL. The call was correct.

Do I agree with him that the NFL is becoming a panzy league? YES
Was the right call made? YES - he did it.

It's up to coaches and Brooks to teach and learn the rules. End of story.

Srgt. Hulka · 11-18-2013, 01:14 PM

Originally Posted by Mardigras9

He looked overwhelmed all day.

I agree Mardigas. I even commented in the live chat that Kaepernick didn't have the confidence in his eyes during the game.

Choupique · 11-18-2013, 01:24 PM

who dat.

the 40whiners lost.

next.

two dat.

Srgt. Hulka · 11-18-2013, 01:35 PM

Originally Posted by Halo

Brees, on the other hand, believes the call was correct.

LINK

LINK

Do I agree with him that the NFL is becoming a panzy league? YES
Was the right call made? YES - he did it.

You are absolutely right Halo. Like the call or not, according to the rules set in place, the Referees had NO choice but to call roughing the passer. So, all you SF "fans" tolling this site...It was a good call.

HITS TO PASSER’S HEAD AND USE OF HELMET AND FACEMASK
(3)
�� In covering the passer position, Referees will be particularly alert to fouls in which defenders impermissibly use the helmet and/or facemask to hit the passer, or use hands, arms, or other parts of the body to hit the passer forcibly in the head or neck area (see also the other unnecessary-roughness rules covering these subjects). A defensive player must not use his helmet against a passer who is in a defenseless posture for example, (a) forcibly hitting the passer’s head or neck area with the helmet or facemask, regardless of whether the defensive player also uses his arms to tackle the passer by encircling or grasping him, or (b) lowering the head and making forcible contact with the top/crown or forehead/”hairline” parts of the helmet against any part of the passer’s body. This rule does not prohibit incidental contact by the mask or non-crown parts of the helmet in the course of a conventional tackle on a passer.

<snip>

Penalty: For Roughing the Passer: Loss of 15 yards from the previous spot; disqualification if flagrant.

Note 1: If in doubt about a roughness call or potentially dangerous tactic on the quarterback, the Referee should always call roughing the passer.

http://www.nfl.com/static/content/pu...er_Conduct.pdf

11-18-2013, 09:03 AM	#1
44Champs Site Donor Join Date: Dec 2010 Posts: 2,589	The most boneheaded SF play of the game It wasnt Ahmad Brooks clothesline sack of Brees, and it wasnt the hit on Sproles after he fair-catched a punt. The biggest boneheaded play came from Kaepernick, when he scrambled out of bounds on 3rd & 19, stopping the clock and giving Brees more time to engineer the game-winning drive. SF had been winning despite Kaepernick, and the fans are probably now wishing that they had Alex Smith instead. saintfan, Danno, SapperSaint and 8 others like this.
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11-18-2013, 09:30 AM	#2
dam1953 1000 Posts + Join Date: Jan 2012 Location: SW Ohio Posts: 4,645	Re: The most boneheaded SF play of the game I agree. A great QB gets the first down. A good QB stays in bounds on 3rd down to eat another 30 secs+ off the clock before punting. What does this make Kap, average or less in my opinion. Do you notice how all of the wonder kid QB's in the class of 2012 are less than wonderful this year. Luck is the only one that seems to be holding up...for now. IMO this supports the observation that "athletic" QB's don't win consistently in the NFL. Give me a QB with ability between his ears. Halo, SapperSaint, foreverfan and 6 others like this.

11-18-2013, 09:40 AM	#3
SloMotion 5000 POSTS! + Join Date: Jan 2012 Posts: 6,776 Blog Entries: 15	Re: The most boneheaded SF play of the game Originally Posted by dam1953 I agree. A great QB gets the first down. A good QB stays in bounds on 3rd down to eat another 30 secs+ off the clock before punting. What does this make Kap, average or less in my opinion. Do you notice how all of the wonder kid QB's in the class of 2012 are less than wonderful this year. Luck is the only one that seems to be holding up...for now. IMO this supports the observation that "athletic" QB's don't win consistently in the NFL. Give me a QB with ability between his ears. It's the 'sophomore slump' ... once they get some tape on ya', it's all about what you do after that. Russell Wilson (SEA) seems to be weathering the storm best outta' all of 'em and RGIII has the injury-thing working against him, but I usually wait 3-4 seasons before I get too hard on 'em. Kaepernick is athletic enough, he just gotta' get his head right, IMO. . saintfan and Kryptonite like this.

11-18-2013, 10:15 AM	#4
Mardigras9 Site Donor 2015 Join Date: Dec 2010 Location: Land Mass between LA and AL Posts: 4,375	Re: The most boneheaded SF play of the game He looked overwhelmed all day. Just a mental mistake he'll learn from. Then again, he would have had to take a shot from a linebacker (Hawthorne maybe) to try to make it. With his ability, surprised he didn't try. SloMotion likes this.

11-18-2013, 12:37 PM	#5
vpheughan 1000 Posts + Join Date: Aug 2007 Posts: 4,525	Re: The most boneheaded SF play of the game Now we know why no one ever heard of Kaepernick before the draft. He threw for 127 yards!! You catch Dungy hating on the Saints again? Carolina, Carolina! What a fool! Hey Harbaugh! Who's the faceless name now? What a jerk!!
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exile Cake or Death? Join Date: Sep 2009 Posts: 3,608	Re: The most boneheaded SF play of the game Originally Posted by vpheughan You catch Dungy hating on the Saints again? Carolina, Carolina! What a fool! I heard that this morning. I can't hate on Dungy though since he is a defense guy. And you can't argue with the Panthers defense. We'll beat them twice though. Halo likes this.
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Halo Site Donor MONTHLY Join Date: May 2002 Location: New Orleans, LA Posts: 20,718 Blog Entries: 45	Ahmad Brooks: Football’s watered down these days "I didn't hit him with my hand or my helmet," Brooks told reporters, according to the San Francisco Chronicle. "I basically bear-hugged him. That's just how football is played. I think this s--- is bull----. Football, the way they call stuff these days, it's watered down. It ain't real no more." Brees, on the other hand, believes the call was correct. "All I remember is just getting clothes-lined in the chin, and as I'm on the ground I'm saying, 'That's got to be a flag,''' Brees said. LINK Brooks isn’t the only person who feels that way, but the rules governing hits on quarterbacks aren’t going to go anywhere. LINK My take - it was a clear clothesline swing and the moving gif's and other images do not do it justice until you see it in its entirety. Last I checked the clothesline move was illegal in the NFL. The call was correct. Do I agree with him that the NFL is becoming a panzy league? YES Was the right call made? YES - he did it. It's up to coaches and Brooks to teach and learn the rules. End of story. exile, jlouhill, Mardigras9 and 2 others like this.

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Srgt. Hulka 1000 Posts + Join Date: Dec 2009 Location: Shreveport, LA Posts: 4,417	Re: The most boneheaded SF play of the game Originally Posted by Mardigras9 He looked overwhelmed all day. I agree Mardigas. I even commented in the live chat that Kaepernick didn't have the confidence in his eyes during the game. SloMotion likes this.

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Choupique 1000 Posts + Join Date: Jan 2010 Posts: 2,594	Re: The most boneheaded SF play of the game who dat. the 40whiners lost. next. two dat. foreverfan likes this.
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11-18-2013, 01:35 PM	#10
Srgt. Hulka 1000 Posts + Join Date: Dec 2009 Location: Shreveport, LA Posts: 4,417	Re: Ahmad Brooks: Football’s watered down these days Originally Posted by Halo Brees, on the other hand, believes the call was correct. LINK LINK Do I agree with him that the NFL is becoming a panzy league? YES Was the right call made? YES - he did it. You are absolutely right Halo. Like the call or not, according to the rules set in place, the Referees had NO choice but to call roughing the passer. So, all you SF "fans" tolling this site...It was a good call. HITS TO PASSER’S HEAD AND USE OF HELMET AND FACEMASK (3) �� In covering the passer position, Referees will be particularly alert to fouls in which defenders impermissibly use the helmet and/or facemask to hit the passer, or use hands, arms, or other parts of the body to hit the passer forcibly in the head or neck area (see also the other unnecessary-roughness rules covering these subjects). A defensive player must not use his helmet against a passer who is in a defenseless posture for example, (a) forcibly hitting the passer’s head or neck area with the helmet or facemask, regardless of whether the defensive player also uses his arms to tackle the passer by encircling or grasping him, or (b) lowering the head and making forcible contact with the top/crown or forehead/”hairline” parts of the helmet against any part of the passer’s body. This rule does not prohibit incidental contact by the mask or non-crown parts of the helmet in the course of a conventional tackle on a passer. <snip> Penalty: For Roughing the Passer: Loss of 15 yards from the previous spot; disqualification if flagrant. Note 1: If in doubt about a roughness call or potentially dangerous tactic on the quarterback, the Referee should always call roughing the passer. http://www.nfl.com/static/content/pu...er_Conduct.pdf foreverfan likes this.
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