Ray Lewis willing to help Ahmad Brooks fine for his hit on Drew Brees

SaintsBro · 11-19-2013, 09:57 AM

It was a classic clothesline tackle, which has been illegal since the day of Dick "Night Train" Lane. A player named Don Pellington for the Colts, once wrapped his arm in a plaster cast, with a steel rod in it, then put bandage padding over it so the refs couldn't see, and knocked a player unconscious by clotheslining him with it at a game in 1959. It's not like the refs are suddenly changing the rules or changing the way the game is played, this particular types of hit has been illegal for decades. That's right, decades.

Euphoria · 11-19-2013, 10:05 AM

Not a clothes line at all. Just because his arm is out doesn't mean its a clothes line. It was a putting your arm out to make a grab. Typically a clothes line also has the ball carrier running Drew was standing still. I don't have a problem with the penalty its a close call but the rules are the rules.

I do not agree that a fine should be apart of the penalty. It did not have malicious intent nor horrible enough to warrant a fine.

saintsfan1976 · 11-19-2013, 10:01 AM

Why is Brees's height of any significance?

It's not like it was a surprise...

SloMotion · 11-19-2013, 10:05 AM

"What happened to the suit, Ray? What happened to the suit?" ... Lewis is a boob and another example of 'just because you were a good player, doesn't mean you'll be a good coach/have a future after the game" ... the only incite he has that I'd be interested in concerns that night it Atlanta, 12/13yrs ago.

That hit's a fine all-day, every-day in today's NFL. Sure, maybe it wasn't 10yrs ago, but that was then, this is now. If they don't fine him, every other player that has been fined this season should file a class-action suit vs the NFL, just sayin'.

st thomas · 11-19-2013, 10:33 AM

that was a bad hit on brees. even though it was close to the neck with the close line look , it was the finish that was a no-brainer for ref's. the slam to the lower part of his neck/higher part of the pads. naturally the arm will move upward to the jaw of brees that sent the helmet rising signaling the zebra to reach automaticly for the yellowish rag they call . THE FLAG. it was a great call. it had to be damn-it. look at some of the BS calls with a finger brushing against the face mast they call, it was the right call, i'm done.

st thomas · 11-19-2013, 10:35 AM

oh and RAY LEWIS HAS SPOKEN OHHHHHH . LET THE BIG SHOT PAY-IT. THUG BOAT.

ikecomp · 11-19-2013, 11:26 AM

I don't really fault Ray for his statement. He's a defensive guy so when something is not blatantly an illegal hit, he's going to support the defensive guy. Plus, brooks doesn't have a history of dirty hits.

SloMotion · 11-19-2013, 01:27 PM

Originally Posted by ikecomp

I don't really fault Ray for his statement. He's a defensive guy so when something is not blatantly an illegal hit, he's going to support the defensive guy. Plus, brooks doesn't have a history of dirty hits.

Yeah, but it falls under what used to be the #1 rule of the media, "report the news, don't be the news". Aside from the fact it appears Ray struggles to form and express, at times, coherent thought when on-air, he also needs to realize "it's no longer about him",

. JMO.

ikecomp · 11-19-2013, 01:51 PM

Originally Posted by SloMotion

Yeah, but it falls under what used to be the #1 rule of the media, "report the news, don't be the news". Aside from the fact it appears Ray struggles to form and express, at times, coherent thought when on-air, he also needs to realize "it's no longer about him", . JMO.

The keyword there is that it "used" to be the rule. You're not hiring someone out of college with a communication/journalism degree. You're hiring a personality.

The reason for that is he's not just an analyst. He's a "color" analyst meaning he is there to entertain as well as breakdown the game he played. ESPN fully understood they were getting a passionate and emotional personality when they hired Ray so you can't expect him not to be that now just because he's on the air in a suit. It's the same reason Michael Strahan, Shannon Sharpe, Deon Sanders, Michael Irvin, Charles Barkley and Shaq have jobs. They are not just there to inform you but inform you and entertain you. So in that regard, they are part of the news.

SloMotion · 11-19-2013, 03:18 PM

Originally Posted by ikecomp

The keyword there is that it "used" to be the rule. You're not hiring someone out of college with a communication/journalism degree. You're hiring a personality.

The reason for that is he's not just an analyst. He's a "color" analyst meaning he is there to entertain as well as breakdown the game he played. ESPN fully understood they were getting a passionate and emotional personality when they hired Ray so you can't expect him not to be that now just because he's on the air in a suit. It's the same reason Michael Strahan, Shannon Sharpe, Deon Sanders, Michael Irvin, Charles Barkley and Shaq have jobs. They are not just there to inform you but inform you and entertain you. So in that regard, they are part of the news.

I kinda' get what you're saying and don't necessarily disagree, but I look at the list of guys you have and don't recall any of them ever saying anything as stupid as what Lewis said, thus becoming a segment on a show ... maybe Barkley has at one time or another (

), but Strahan, Sharpe and even Sanders/Irvin pretty much keep their comments on a professional, non-personal level.

Now that Ray has said it, I just hope it's a substantial fine and maxes out that American Express card he was waving around,

... it's just 'bush league', IMO.

11-19-2013, 10:05 AM	#2
Euphoria 5000 POSTS! + Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: Hollywood, CA Posts: 7,601 Blog Entries: 5	Re: Ray Lewis willing to help Ahmad Brooks fine for his hit on Drew Brees Not a clothes line at all. Just because his arm is out doesn't mean its a clothes line. It was a putting your arm out to make a grab. Typically a clothes line also has the ball carrier running Drew was standing still. I don't have a problem with the penalty its a close call but the rules are the rules. I do not agree that a fine should be apart of the penalty. It did not have malicious intent nor horrible enough to warrant a fine. foreverfan likes this.

11-19-2013, 10:01 AM	#3
saintsfan1976 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: Atlanta Posts: 10,991 Blog Entries: 3	Re: Ray Lewis willing to help Ahmad Brooks fine for his hit on Drew Brees Why is Brees's height of any significance? It's not like it was a surprise...

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SloMotion 5000 POSTS! + Join Date: Jan 2012 Posts: 6,776 Blog Entries: 15	Re: Ray Lewis willing to help Ahmad Brooks fine for his hit on Drew Brees "What happened to the suit, Ray? What happened to the suit?" ... Lewis is a boob and another example of 'just because you were a good player, doesn't mean you'll be a good coach/have a future after the game" ... the only incite he has that I'd be interested in concerns that night it Atlanta, 12/13yrs ago. That hit's a fine all-day, every-day in today's NFL. Sure, maybe it wasn't 10yrs ago, but that was then, this is now. If they don't fine him, every other player that has been fined this season should file a class-action suit vs the NFL, just sayin'.

11-19-2013, 10:33 AM	#5
st thomas Site Donor 2018 Join Date: Dec 2009 Location: lafayette Posts: 7,753	Re: Ray Lewis willing to help Ahmad Brooks fine for his hit on Drew Brees that was a bad hit on brees. even though it was close to the neck with the close line look , it was the finish that was a no-brainer for ref's. the slam to the lower part of his neck/higher part of the pads. naturally the arm will move upward to the jaw of brees that sent the helmet rising signaling the zebra to reach automaticly for the yellowish rag they call . THE FLAG. it was a great call. it had to be damn-it. look at some of the BS calls with a finger brushing against the face mast they call, it was the right call, i'm done.
	thats the fact jack!!!!!

11-19-2013, 10:35 AM	#6
st thomas Site Donor 2018 Join Date: Dec 2009 Location: lafayette Posts: 7,753	Re: Ray Lewis willing to help Ahmad Brooks fine for his hit on Drew Brees oh and RAY LEWIS HAS SPOKEN OHHHHHH . LET THE BIG SHOT PAY-IT. THUG BOAT. WHODATINCA likes this.

11-19-2013, 09:57 AM	#1
SaintsBro Site Donor Join Date: Sep 2010 Location: in line with my ridiculous CLEAR PLASTIC BAG Posts: 3,650 Blog Entries: 3	Re: Ray Lewis willing to help Ahmad Brooks fine for his hit on Drew Brees It was a classic clothesline tackle, which has been illegal since the day of Dick "Night Train" Lane. A player named Don Pellington for the Colts, once wrapped his arm in a plaster cast, with a steel rod in it, then put bandage padding over it so the refs couldn't see, and knocked a player unconscious by clotheslining him with it at a game in 1959. It's not like the refs are suddenly changing the rules or changing the way the game is played, this particular types of hit has been illegal for decades. That's right, decades.

11-19-2013, 11:26 AM	#7
ikecomp 100th Post Join Date: Sep 2013 Posts: 329	Re: Ray Lewis willing to help Ahmad Brooks fine for his hit on Drew Brees I don't really fault Ray for his statement. He's a defensive guy so when something is not blatantly an illegal hit, he's going to support the defensive guy. Plus, brooks doesn't have a history of dirty hits.
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11-19-2013, 01:27 PM	#8
SloMotion 5000 POSTS! + Join Date: Jan 2012 Posts: 6,776 Blog Entries: 15	Re: Ray Lewis willing to help Ahmad Brooks fine for his hit on Drew Brees Originally Posted by ikecomp I don't really fault Ray for his statement. He's a defensive guy so when something is not blatantly an illegal hit, he's going to support the defensive guy. Plus, brooks doesn't have a history of dirty hits. Yeah, but it falls under what used to be the #1 rule of the media, "report the news, don't be the news". Aside from the fact it appears Ray struggles to form and express, at times, coherent thought when on-air, he also needs to realize "it's no longer about him", . JMO. TheOak likes this.

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ikecomp 100th Post Join Date: Sep 2013 Posts: 329	Re: Ray Lewis willing to help Ahmad Brooks fine for his hit on Drew Brees Originally Posted by SloMotion Yeah, but it falls under what used to be the #1 rule of the media, "report the news, don't be the news". Aside from the fact it appears Ray struggles to form and express, at times, coherent thought when on-air, he also needs to realize "it's no longer about him", . JMO. The keyword there is that it "used" to be the rule. You're not hiring someone out of college with a communication/journalism degree. You're hiring a personality. The reason for that is he's not just an analyst. He's a "color" analyst meaning he is there to entertain as well as breakdown the game he played. ESPN fully understood they were getting a passionate and emotional personality when they hired Ray so you can't expect him not to be that now just because he's on the air in a suit. It's the same reason Michael Strahan, Shannon Sharpe, Deon Sanders, Michael Irvin, Charles Barkley and Shaq have jobs. They are not just there to inform you but inform you and entertain you. So in that regard, they are part of the news.
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11-19-2013, 03:18 PM	#10
SloMotion 5000 POSTS! + Join Date: Jan 2012 Posts: 6,776 Blog Entries: 15	Re: Ray Lewis willing to help Ahmad Brooks fine for his hit on Drew Brees Originally Posted by ikecomp The keyword there is that it "used" to be the rule. You're not hiring someone out of college with a communication/journalism degree. You're hiring a personality. The reason for that is he's not just an analyst. He's a "color" analyst meaning he is there to entertain as well as breakdown the game he played. ESPN fully understood they were getting a passionate and emotional personality when they hired Ray so you can't expect him not to be that now just because he's on the air in a suit. It's the same reason Michael Strahan, Shannon Sharpe, Deon Sanders, Michael Irvin, Charles Barkley and Shaq have jobs. They are not just there to inform you but inform you and entertain you. So in that regard, they are part of the news. I kinda' get what you're saying and don't necessarily disagree, but I look at the list of guys you have and don't recall any of them ever saying anything as stupid as what Lewis said, thus becoming a segment on a show ... maybe Barkley has at one time or another (), but Strahan, Sharpe and even Sanders/Irvin pretty much keep their comments on a professional, non-personal level. Now that Ray has said it, I just hope it's a substantial fine and maxes out that American Express card he was waving around, ... it's just 'bush league', IMO.

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