Concerns in the secondary
 

With Greer out now along with P Rob, and the way our safeties are in and out of games because of injuries I wonder if our weakness isn't the secondary. Our defense has been very solid but I'm wondering when the opponents are going to attack our weakness which IMHO are the backups.
They have played well enough but I am concerned about them. Thoughts?:bng:

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Butler practicing makes me a little happier.. I think opponents will likely attack Keenan by the looks of Sunday game. he kept getting beat by boldin but as long as the rush gets there our weakness will be less evident.

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If Greer tore his ACL, and that's ALL he tore, then he is a blessed man. Get well soon homie!

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I expected it to be a lot worse than just his ACL....although that's certainly bad enough! Come back soon Jabari!!

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I am not concerned with the secondary.

1. Our best cover corner is Keenan Lewis who usually covers the opponent's #1 receiver.
2. White has done a great job all season and the Saints defense didn't skip a beat after Greer went down, limited the 49ers to only 127 yards passing.
3. The Saints have a versatile secondary in which both Vaccaro and Jenkins can cover the slot receiver.
4. Carr has been solid as a dime back all year long. He continued to shine vs the 49ers.
5. Harper is back and Bush has played well to allow more versatility in the secondary with the usage of Jenkins and Vaccaro.

In essence we will not see any other players on the field that haven't played all year long. Sweeting would only be considered in garbage time. We would only have an issue if we suffered another injury. As it stands now, we are fine.

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Remember the steelers game in 2010

We had 1 active CB, leigh torrence who then got injured in that game (before making game winning pick)

Our safeties played man coverage all game and had one of the best defensive performances ive seen

In short, we are going to be fine

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Lewis has shut down everyone he has played against... He is by far the best CB the Saints have had in 10 years.

As for white he is an upgrade over Greer. We lose depth for the nickle and dime but Jenkins and Vaccaro can fill those rolls.

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You have nothing to worry about in any aspect of the defense, they displayed that in sundays performance

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Not to knock a guy down after an injury like this, but I agree with you. I think Greer has been the weak link in the secondary. He gave up a TD vs Chicago early in the game that he basically didn't switch off his man near the goal line, whereas Vaccaro (the rookie) did. Greer tried to follow his man on the rub play and was made to look foolish falling to the ground, easy TD to Jeffery. Greer looked like the rookie on that play.

And he lets the Patriots receiver do the only thing that can't be allowed, to get behind you for the game winning catch. That was disgusting defense and cost us the game.

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Why didn't one of you tell Rob about Greer being the weak link? All this time. :)

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I know, right?

All jokes aside, Lewis is the CB we can't afford to lose.

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Just messing around. :mrgreen:

Greer had a few whoppers but was playing pretty darn well. Lewis is an inspiration. White growing on me for sure.

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It's a bummer losing Greer. He is a fan favorite and a solid CB.

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The biggest concern we have is depth - allowing guys to rotate to keep them fresh...

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Anquan Bolden does that to all CB's, he's been like that since he was at Florida State. Keenan has been everything we expected when we signed him. If teams keep testing him, I know he'll keep passing. He is worth every penny we're paying him.

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Bring back Mckenzie!!

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Already? Our d-line is gonna get a shot in the arm with Butler back, we'll be fine.

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Butler isn't guaranteed to be activated any this season...

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F*ck, if Cam Newton or Russell Wilson think their gonna abuse Lewis let em. Dude has held Julio, Dez, Boldin, Wallace and Brandon Marshall under 100 yards.

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Im hoping were not getting too hyped up for Butler like he's a proven pro-bowler. I was as excited as anybody when we picked him up but we really dont know how he's gonna pan out. I'll be the first to admit,Galette is playing better than I expected(I actually thought Tez was gonna be the beast for us). Point is, I like the fact that he knows Ryans system,but what he did in Dallas doesnt mean he'll do it here.....I wouldn't be suprised if Galette stays the starter. Honestly, I hope he turns out to be the best lb we have....then-and only then-will I proceed to jizz in my pants.

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they are droping like flies back there. concerned? hell ya

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Roto seems to agree on Lewis

Sun, Nov 17

Roddy White caught three balls for 36 yards and a touchdown in Atlanta's Week 11 loss to Tampa Bay.

Advice: Shut down all day by Darrelle Revis, White's fantasy day was saved by a fourth-quarter touchdown from six yards out. White will be a better fantasy bet on Thursday Night Football against the Saints in Week 12, although owners shouldn't underestimate the emerging shutdown coverage of New Orleans CB Keenan Lewis.

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And a well positioned safety doesn't hurt either. Dez was bracketed all game long.

I'm thinking the 3 and 4 safety sets we've seen are successful because the safeties are in better position to help both CB's be more aggressive.

I can't help but think McGriff is the main reason why our secondary looks so much better than that confused and bewildered mess we witnessed last year.

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I'm still a bit disappointed we haven't made a move on Nnamdi. Didn't we make a modest offer to him after he worked with us before the season? If he was good enough then to make an offer to, then he is probably still the same player he was a few months ago, and now we need him even more.

Why not sign a veteran who has proven his abilities rather than an unproven Trevin Wade who won't even see the active 53?

Of course these are the thoughts of a layman from the outside looking in. I will continue to trust in Sean, Rob, and Mick.

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He is the same player alright... No one knew what player he was then as it was before the season started.
A Brief Statistical Send-Off for Nnamdi Asomugha - Niners Nation

Big name but would it really be an upgrade over what we have now? i don't think so.

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I hope Wade can play ST because White was playing ST well but now that he is #2 CB he may be relieved of some of his ST duties or Wade will be thrown in to some coverage duties to give White a breather.

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Well just look at this past game vs 49ers

(on the corey white pick/fumble) He and greer have been jumping short routes a lot during games, and corey defended this smartly, he had safety help over the top and more than 4 rushers going after the QB

If its a double move the safety is there

Having two relentless guys on either side of the D line doesn't hurt either lol

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I heard the NFLNetwork guys talking about his leg injury. They said he claimed his injury was slowing him down and maybe he hasn't recovered completely. They also mentioned it may have just been an excuse as to why he was released.

For Rob Ryan to pass on a stud player he previously coached, he must know something we all don't.

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I agree he is clearly on the backside of his career, but using 3 games to define him is pretty unfair. Heck, the fact that he even saw the field on a 40whiner defense with so much depth (sorry to admit this) shows that he must have something left.

He's played under Rob before which is a plus. He is physically a big CB which is a plus.

I guess my main point is that it seems like Nnamdi would have a better CHANCE of at least being activated and being a body we can have in case of an emergency. I'm not sure if we can say the same about Trevin Wade for this year at least.

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Gotta be it.

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Ten year veteran league minimum, is a LOT more than 2nd year player league minimum. Might be part of the reason. Or not.

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New England 2009.

We got people from off the street and Tom Brady had one of the worst games of his career.

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Its right near 1M now. (920k)

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What CB's are out there in FA?

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Cornerbacks

Antoine Winfield
Sheldon Brown
Ronald Bartell
Jacob Lacey
Marcus Trufant
Jason Allen
Chris Johnson
Cedric Griffin
Joselio Hanson
Ras-I Dowling
Stanford Routt
William Middleton
Terrence McGee
Shawntae Spencer
Pat Lee
Justin King
Myron Lewis
Elbert Mack
Demarcus Van Dyke
Ryan Mouton

Safeties

Kerry Rhodes
Kenny Phillips
Nate Clements
Jordan Babineaux
Tom Zbikowski
Haruki Nakamura
Eric Smith
Atari Bigby
Amari Spievey
Robert Johnson
Abram Elam
Sherrod Martin
Chris Crocker
Corey Lynch
Tyler Sash
2013 NFL Free Agents - Free Agency Update - Rotoworld.com

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Yes!! Bring back MM!!

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You forgot Nnamdi. He's still out there, but now he's married to Kerry Washington so he may be a little busy.

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This was from back in September. Not sure how may are still sitting at home still.

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Thats all I could find.