so expect Hicks to be fined

vpheughan · 11-22-2013, 10:09 PM

Speaking of Brooks hit, where is the Bounty investigation? Ray Lewis says he'll pay Brooks fine? If it looks like a duck, walks like a duck, and quacks like a duck...........

breesfan27 · 11-22-2013, 10:20 PM

Originally Posted by SmashMouth

Yes indeed.... And RayRay should be reminded...we should all email him.

I tweeted him this morning. I'll tweet him again if/when Hicks gets fined.

The Dude · 11-22-2013, 11:30 PM

Originally Posted by ikecomp

I actually agree with you with regards to the hits on qbs. Where I differ is the comparison that nicks hit was worse. There was a lot more force behind the brooks hit (not saying that's a bad thing) and there was a follow through which started from the collarbone up through the neck area. Where as the nicks hit was incidental on the helmet at best and only for a moment before he could wrap ryan up and bring him to the ground. The nfl network guys were acting like nicks bashed ryan over the head with a sledgehammer and then snatched out his soul mortal kombat style.

I think the only reason why the Brooks hit had a lot more force behind it is just that the Brooks hit had more force behind it. I don't think the amount of force you have behind a hit has anything to do with weather or not its illegal. You can hit a QB as hard as you can, as hard as a freight train as long as its in the area that is legal. Hell even Jim Henderson said it was an obvious flag that didn't get called. I don't think either were malicious. I think both were just scrutinized because of a ****ty rule thats in place.

The Dude · 11-22-2013, 11:31 PM

BTW can a player get fined if a flag was not thrown?

SloMotion · 11-23-2013, 06:07 AM

Originally Posted by The Dude

BTW can a player get fined if a flag was not thrown?

Yes. (repost of #20)

Originally Posted by TheOak

Yes... happens often.
'How Hit Becomes a Fine' starts in Officiating Command Center - NFL.com

Boutte · 11-23-2013, 08:36 AM

Originally Posted by Girvanaca

He still removed his hands from his helmet after they made contact. Brooks did not. He threw Brees down to the ground by his head.

Still, both should be flagged. It wasn't far more flagrant though, as Eisen claimed.

It wasn't more flagrant but it was more obvious.

TheOak · 11-23-2013, 09:18 AM

How many Oaks are here anyway?

You guys will debate a point almost as long as I will.

Happy Saturday!!!! 9-2!

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11-22-2013, 10:20 PM	#42
breesfan27 Mrs. Drew Brees Join Date: Nov 2009 Location: The Who Dat Nation (by way of South Dakota) Posts: 2,276 Blog Entries: 1	Re: so expect Hicks to be fined Originally Posted by SmashMouth Yes indeed.... And RayRay should be reminded...we should all email him. I tweeted him this morning. I'll tweet him again if/when Hicks gets fined.

11-22-2013, 11:30 PM	#43
The Dude 5000 POSTS! + Join Date: Jul 2011 Posts: 9,048	Re: so expect Hicks to be fined Originally Posted by ikecomp I actually agree with you with regards to the hits on qbs. Where I differ is the comparison that nicks hit was worse. There was a lot more force behind the brooks hit (not saying that's a bad thing) and there was a follow through which started from the collarbone up through the neck area. Where as the nicks hit was incidental on the helmet at best and only for a moment before he could wrap ryan up and bring him to the ground. The nfl network guys were acting like nicks bashed ryan over the head with a sledgehammer and then snatched out his soul mortal kombat style. I think the only reason why the Brooks hit had a lot more force behind it is just that the Brooks hit had more force behind it. I don't think the amount of force you have behind a hit has anything to do with weather or not its illegal. You can hit a QB as hard as you can, as hard as a freight train as long as its in the area that is legal. Hell even Jim Henderson said it was an obvious flag that didn't get called. I don't think either were malicious. I think both were just scrutinized because of a ****ty rule thats in place.
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SloMotion 5000 POSTS! + Join Date: Jan 2012 Posts: 6,776 Blog Entries: 15	Re: so expect Hicks to be fined Originally Posted by The Dude BTW can a player get fined if a flag was not thrown? Yes. (repost of #20) Originally Posted by TheOak Yes... happens often. 'How Hit Becomes a Fine' starts in Officiating Command Center - NFL.com

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11-23-2013, 08:36 AM	#46
Boutte Site Donor Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: Belle Chasse Posts: 1,701	Re: so expect Hicks to be fined Originally Posted by Girvanaca He still removed his hands from his helmet after they made contact. Brooks did not. He threw Brees down to the ground by his head. Still, both should be flagged. It wasn't far more flagrant though, as Eisen claimed. It wasn't more flagrant but it was more obvious.

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