What position would you like to see the Saints go for in the draft?

ChrisXVI · 11-23-2013, 02:01 PM

Every mock draft I read has us drafting an OLB in the first round and I don't get it. Victor Butler will be back next season and combined with Junior and Parys Haralson it just doesn't seem like a position that needs immediate upgrading.

Marching · 11-23-2013, 02:05 PM

Originally Posted by ChrisXVI

Every mock draft I read has us drafting an OLB in the first round and I don't get it. Victor Butler will be back next season and combined with Junior and Parys Haralson it just doesn't seem like a position that needs immediate upgrading.

I'd like to see us targeting one in the second round, but I agree that we have more pressing needs than OLB.

I'd like to see us take Adrian Hubbard, OLB out of Alabama in the second round. The guy is a monster. 6'5, 252 and can run like a deer. He's not a liability in the pass or run game. Rob Ryan would work wonders with him.

Danno · 11-23-2013, 02:14 PM

Originally Posted by Marching

I'd like to see us targeting one in the second round, but I agree that we have more pressing needs than OLB.

I'd like to see us take Adrian Hubbard, OLB out of Alabama in the second round. The guy is a monster. 6'5, 252 and can run like a deer. He's not a liability in the pass or run game. Rob Ryan would work wonders with him.

Hubbard in the 2nd sounds fine with me.

They say the problem with Bama players is that Saban has already gotten the most out of them. There likely won't be a huge "development" jump for his players when they reach the next level. They're kinda like what you see is what you get. We've seen that with his DB's and LB's already.

Obviously they won't suck, but they aren't going to improve dramatically at the next level. I tend to think Bama players are over-rated by about a half-round or more going into the draft.

Marching · 11-23-2013, 02:41 PM

Originally Posted by Danno

Hubbard in the 2nd sounds fine with me.

They say the problem with Bama players is that Saban has already gotten the most out of them. There likely won't be a huge "development" jump for his players when they reach the next level. They're kinda like what you see is what you get. We've seen that with his DB's and LB's already.

Obviously they won't suck, but they aren't going to improve dramatically at the next level. I tend to think Bama players are over-rated by about a half-round or more going into the draft.

True.. I've never thought of that before. That's a testament to how good of a coach Saban is. I would still like Hubbard though. I don't know about anybody else, but I just can't ignore a player as big and quick as he is.

Danno · 11-23-2013, 02:09 PM

Originally Posted by ChrisXVI

Every mock draft I read has us drafting an OLB in the first round and I don't get it. Victor Butler will be back next season and combined with Junior and Parys Haralson it just doesn't seem like a position that needs immediate upgrading.

You and I know both know we're gonna take the BPA anyway.

But I could see us taking an OLB. Butler is unproven as a starter and there's a bit of the unknown with his knee injury. Junior is above average but not what I'd call pro-bowl quality.

Parys is a SLB and at this stage is more of a two-down OLB.

We could use a young Jack LB for sure. I'd prefer that the BPA when we pick is an OT or CB, but I could live with any positions in the 1st other than QB, RB, FB, TE, K or P.

ChrisXVI · 11-23-2013, 02:25 PM

Originally Posted by Danno

You and I know both know we're gonna take the BPA anyway.

But I could see us taking an OLB. Butler is unproven as a starter and there's a bit of the unknown with his knee injury. Junior is above average but not what I'd call pro-bowl quality.

Parys is a SLB and at this stage is more of a two-down OLB.

We could use a young Jack LB for sure. I'd prefer that the BPA when we pick is an OT or CB, but I could live with any positions in the 1st other than QB, RB, FB, TE, K or P.

You know, I was thinking that we don't need an OLB because we hardly ever play in the base 3-4 defense... But then I started thinking that the reason for that might be because we don't have anyone other than Haralson to play SAM and he's getting older.

Danno · 11-23-2013, 02:33 PM

Originally Posted by ChrisXVI

You know, I was thinking that we don't need an OLB because we hardly ever play in the base 3-4 defense... But then I started thinking that the reason for that might be because we don't have anyone other than Haralson to play SAM and he's getting older.

And also think about where our quality/depth is on defense. We look pretty solid at DT, DE, and Safety. OLB and CB not so much.

And with Lofton not being an ideal SILB in a 3-4, you can add ILB to our list of needs.

If the next Aldon Smith, Clay Matthews, Ahmad Brooks or DeMarcus Ware is sitting there, I'm pulling the trigger real quick.

FinSaint · 11-24-2013, 03:12 PM

Originally Posted by Danno

And also think about where our quality/depth is on defense. We look pretty solid at DT, DE, and Safety. OLB and CB not so much.

I'd like for them to add another impact CB, since Robinson probably missed his last chance to prove his worth due to the season ending injury.

But I don't know if they're looking that great at safety, because the only safeties they have under contract for next season are Harper and Vaccaro. Harper will have a $5.9M cap hit next season, which carries $3.7M of dead money, so it'll be a toss up whether to release him or keep him (apart from trading of course). Jenkins will be an UFA, while both Bush and Abdul-Quddus will be RFAs. Bringing in another starter caliber safety to pair up with Vaccaro sounds like a very good alternative if the right player will be available for the Saints (i.e. someone like Harrison Smith from the Vikes as far as the skill-set goes).

dizzle88 · 11-25-2013, 10:28 AM

O line, receiver, Linebacker and CB

11-23-2013, 02:01 PM	#1
ChrisXVI 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Aug 2011 Location: Madison, WI Posts: 11,482	Re: What position would you like to see the Saints go for in the draft? Every mock draft I read has us drafting an OLB in the first round and I don't get it. Victor Butler will be back next season and combined with Junior and Parys Haralson it just doesn't seem like a position that needs immediate upgrading. Supertek likes this.

11-23-2013, 02:05 PM	#2
Marching Registered Join Date: Nov 2013 Posts: 53	Re: What position would you like to see the Saints go for in the draft? Originally Posted by ChrisXVI Every mock draft I read has us drafting an OLB in the first round and I don't get it. Victor Butler will be back next season and combined with Junior and Parys Haralson it just doesn't seem like a position that needs immediate upgrading. I'd like to see us targeting one in the second round, but I agree that we have more pressing needs than OLB. I'd like to see us take Adrian Hubbard, OLB out of Alabama in the second round. The guy is a monster. 6'5, 252 and can run like a deer. He's not a liability in the pass or run game. Rob Ryan would work wonders with him. ChrisXVI and MarchingOn like this.
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11-23-2013, 02:14 PM	#3
Danno Truth Addict Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: Spanish Fort, AL (via NO and B/R) Posts: 24,758	Re: What position would you like to see the Saints go for in the draft? Originally Posted by Marching I'd like to see us targeting one in the second round, but I agree that we have more pressing needs than OLB. I'd like to see us take Adrian Hubbard, OLB out of Alabama in the second round. The guy is a monster. 6'5, 252 and can run like a deer. He's not a liability in the pass or run game. Rob Ryan would work wonders with him. Hubbard in the 2nd sounds fine with me. They say the problem with Bama players is that Saban has already gotten the most out of them. There likely won't be a huge "development" jump for his players when they reach the next level. They're kinda like what you see is what you get. We've seen that with his DB's and LB's already. Obviously they won't suck, but they aren't going to improve dramatically at the next level. I tend to think Bama players are over-rated by about a half-round or more going into the draft.

11-23-2013, 02:41 PM	#4
Marching Registered Join Date: Nov 2013 Posts: 53	Re: What position would you like to see the Saints go for in the draft? Originally Posted by Danno Hubbard in the 2nd sounds fine with me. They say the problem with Bama players is that Saban has already gotten the most out of them. There likely won't be a huge "development" jump for his players when they reach the next level. They're kinda like what you see is what you get. We've seen that with his DB's and LB's already. Obviously they won't suck, but they aren't going to improve dramatically at the next level. I tend to think Bama players are over-rated by about a half-round or more going into the draft. True.. I've never thought of that before. That's a testament to how good of a coach Saban is. I would still like Hubbard though. I don't know about anybody else, but I just can't ignore a player as big and quick as he is.
Marching Registered Join Date: Nov 2013 Posts: 53

11-23-2013, 02:09 PM	#5
Danno Truth Addict Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: Spanish Fort, AL (via NO and B/R) Posts: 24,758	Re: What position would you like to see the Saints go for in the draft? Originally Posted by ChrisXVI Every mock draft I read has us drafting an OLB in the first round and I don't get it. Victor Butler will be back next season and combined with Junior and Parys Haralson it just doesn't seem like a position that needs immediate upgrading. You and I know both know we're gonna take the BPA anyway. But I could see us taking an OLB. Butler is unproven as a starter and there's a bit of the unknown with his knee injury. Junior is above average but not what I'd call pro-bowl quality. Parys is a SLB and at this stage is more of a two-down OLB. We could use a young Jack LB for sure. I'd prefer that the BPA when we pick is an OT or CB, but I could live with any positions in the 1st other than QB, RB, FB, TE, K or P. MarchingOn likes this.

11-23-2013, 02:25 PM	#6
ChrisXVI 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Aug 2011 Location: Madison, WI Posts: 11,482	Re: What position would you like to see the Saints go for in the draft? Originally Posted by Danno You and I know both know we're gonna take the BPA anyway. But I could see us taking an OLB. Butler is unproven as a starter and there's a bit of the unknown with his knee injury. Junior is above average but not what I'd call pro-bowl quality. Parys is a SLB and at this stage is more of a two-down OLB. We could use a young Jack LB for sure. I'd prefer that the BPA when we pick is an OT or CB, but I could live with any positions in the 1st other than QB, RB, FB, TE, K or P. You know, I was thinking that we don't need an OLB because we hardly ever play in the base 3-4 defense... But then I started thinking that the reason for that might be because we don't have anyone other than Haralson to play SAM and he's getting older. Danno likes this.

11-23-2013, 02:33 PM	#7
Danno Truth Addict Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: Spanish Fort, AL (via NO and B/R) Posts: 24,758	Re: What position would you like to see the Saints go for in the draft? Originally Posted by ChrisXVI You know, I was thinking that we don't need an OLB because we hardly ever play in the base 3-4 defense... But then I started thinking that the reason for that might be because we don't have anyone other than Haralson to play SAM and he's getting older. And also think about where our quality/depth is on defense. We look pretty solid at DT, DE, and Safety. OLB and CB not so much. And with Lofton not being an ideal SILB in a 3-4, you can add ILB to our list of needs. If the next Aldon Smith, Clay Matthews, Ahmad Brooks or DeMarcus Ware is sitting there, I'm pulling the trigger real quick. ChrisXVI and MarchingOn like this.

11-24-2013, 03:12 PM	#8
FinSaint Site Donor 2015 Join Date: Aug 2011 Location: Finland... formerly Southern Virginia Posts: 4,964	Re: What position would you like to see the Saints go for in the draft? Originally Posted by Danno And also think about where our quality/depth is on defense. We look pretty solid at DT, DE, and Safety. OLB and CB not so much. I'd like for them to add another impact CB, since Robinson probably missed his last chance to prove his worth due to the season ending injury. But I don't know if they're looking that great at safety, because the only safeties they have under contract for next season are Harper and Vaccaro. Harper will have a $5.9M cap hit next season, which carries $3.7M of dead money, so it'll be a toss up whether to release him or keep him (apart from trading of course). Jenkins will be an UFA, while both Bush and Abdul-Quddus will be RFAs. Bringing in another starter caliber safety to pair up with Vaccaro sounds like a very good alternative if the right player will be available for the Saints (i.e. someone like Harrison Smith from the Vikes as far as the skill-set goes). hagan714 and halloween 65 like this.
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11-25-2013, 10:28 AM	#9
dizzle88 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Oct 2009 Posts: 11,541	Re: What position would you like to see the Saints go for in the draft? O line, receiver, Linebacker and CB

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