Corey White Progression

K Major · 12-12-2013, 07:36 PM

Originally Posted by rezburna

Dallas was dumb to switch to that. They should let us get Mo Claiborne. He'd be great with us.

This is one player I wouldn't want. He has done next to nothing in Dallas and is as brittle as they come.

Danno · 12-12-2013, 07:39 PM

Originally Posted by rezburna

Its easy to roast a cover 2. You need so much for it to be successful. You can kill it between the safeties or between the corner and the safety. Dallas was dumb to switch to that. They should let us get Mo Claiborne. He'd be great with us.

Cover 2 works great if you have the right personnel, but Dallas doesn't.

Rangy ball hawking safeties, a speedy MLB with excellent cover skills, a great front 4 that can apply pressure without blitzing, etc.

Dallas actually has great personnel to run a Rob Ryan type defense. Oh the irony is just friggin hilarious. I wonder if Rob Ryan can even sleep at night with all the laughing he must be doing at Jerry Jones' expense. Daals fans must be fuming with hate towards Jerry.

Rugby Saint II · 12-12-2013, 10:04 PM

Originally Posted by Danno

Cover 2 works great if you have the right personnel, but Dallas doesn't.

Rangy ball hawking safeties, a speedy MLB with excellent cover skills, a great front 4 that can apply pressure without blitzing, etc.

Dallas actually has great personnel to run a Rob Ryan type defense. Oh the irony is just friggin hilarious. I wonder if Rob Ryan can even sleep at night with all the laughing he must be doing at Jerry Jones' expense. Daals fans must be fuming with hate towards Jerry.

Like the rest of the world.

Schmohams · 12-12-2013, 10:09 PM

Not only that but Monte Kiffin is 73 years old. Leave the man alone, don't bring him in and set him up for failure.

rezburna · 12-12-2013, 10:38 PM

Originally Posted by Danno

Cover 2 works great if you have the right personnel, but Dallas doesn't.

Rangy ball hawking safeties, a speedy MLB with excellent cover skills, a great front 4 that can apply pressure without blitzing, etc.

Dallas actually has great personnel to run a Rob Ryan type defense. Oh the irony is just friggin hilarious. I wonder if Rob Ryan can even sleep at night with all the laughing he must be doing at Jerry Jones' expense. Daals fans must be fuming with hate towards Jerry.

Yep. If you assemble all that no way you can have any money for offense.

rezburna · 12-12-2013, 10:39 PM

Originally Posted by K Major

This is one player I wouldn't want. He has done next to nothing in Dallas and is as brittle as they come.

different system, different environment, different player.

The Dude · 12-12-2013, 11:38 PM

Originally Posted by hagan714

Patrick Robinson is a had sell. injury history makes him replaceable but i could understand the saints trying him for another year. he has shown some serious promise. right now white has his spot on the roster and Pat has a fight on his hands. i would love to see the saint take a risk on the second day of the draft and get a CB with size to develop like they did with white.

I would at least like to see what he can do under Ryan before pulling the plug on him. YOu never know maybe Ryan can get that 1st round play out of him.

Mr.Riaton · 12-12-2013, 11:58 PM

Originally Posted by Danno

Its amazing how much better players play when they're placed in a scheme that fits their skillset.

OK, maybe its not as amazing as it is common sense.

Its also why Dallas sucks so bad. They have mostly 3-4 press personnel being forced to play in a 4-3 Tampa-2 system. Spagnola ring a bell?

Even a caveman could have predicted that would fail.

How come us average Joe's can see that yet highly paid NFL GM's can't?

Because Jerry Jones is a f**king moron! He drafted a center in the first round!

ScottF · 12-13-2013, 01:00 AM

Is Corey White better than Greer at this point? No.
As a third year pro with 8-9 starts under his belt vs. a 32 year coming off brutal injury? Probably

SaintLeonard · 12-13-2013, 01:05 AM

Originally Posted by ScottF

Is Corey White better than Greer at this point? No.
As a third year pro with 8-9 starts under his belt vs. a 32 year coming off brutal injury? Probably

Yeah, this will be interesting to keep an eye on heading into next year. Has White's great play solidified him as a starter, or does Greer earn it back? Wouldn't be mad either way.

12-12-2013, 07:36 PM	#11
K Major Site Donor 2019 Join Date: Jan 2013 Location: Bedford, TX Posts: 24,622 Blog Entries: 3	Re: Corey White Progression Originally Posted by rezburna Dallas was dumb to switch to that. They should let us get Mo Claiborne. He'd be great with us. This is one player I wouldn't want. He has done next to nothing in Dallas and is as brittle as they come.

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Danno Truth Addict Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: Spanish Fort, AL (via NO and B/R) Posts: 24,723	Re: Corey White Progression Originally Posted by rezburna Its easy to roast a cover 2. You need so much for it to be successful. You can kill it between the safeties or between the corner and the safety. Dallas was dumb to switch to that. They should let us get Mo Claiborne. He'd be great with us. Cover 2 works great if you have the right personnel, but Dallas doesn't. Rangy ball hawking safeties, a speedy MLB with excellent cover skills, a great front 4 that can apply pressure without blitzing, etc. Dallas actually has great personnel to run a Rob Ryan type defense. Oh the irony is just friggin hilarious. I wonder if Rob Ryan can even sleep at night with all the laughing he must be doing at Jerry Jones' expense. Daals fans must be fuming with hate towards Jerry.

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Rugby Saint II Bounty Money $$$ Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: 5800 Airline Dr. Metairie, LA. Posts: 24,073	Re: Corey White Progression Originally Posted by Danno Cover 2 works great if you have the right personnel, but Dallas doesn't. Rangy ball hawking safeties, a speedy MLB with excellent cover skills, a great front 4 that can apply pressure without blitzing, etc. Dallas actually has great personnel to run a Rob Ryan type defense. Oh the irony is just friggin hilarious. I wonder if Rob Ryan can even sleep at night with all the laughing he must be doing at Jerry Jones' expense. Daals fans must be fuming with hate towards Jerry. *Like the rest of the world.*

12-12-2013, 10:09 PM	#14
Schmohams 500th Post Join Date: Oct 2013 Location: Texas Posts: 551	Re: Corey White Progression Not only that but Monte Kiffin is 73 years old. Leave the man alone, don't bring him in and set him up for failure.

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rezburna 5000 POSTS! + Join Date: Feb 2013 Location: Kenner, LA Posts: 7,935	Re: Corey White Progression Originally Posted by Danno Cover 2 works great if you have the right personnel, but Dallas doesn't. Rangy ball hawking safeties, a speedy MLB with excellent cover skills, a great front 4 that can apply pressure without blitzing, etc. Dallas actually has great personnel to run a Rob Ryan type defense. Oh the irony is just friggin hilarious. I wonder if Rob Ryan can even sleep at night with all the laughing he must be doing at Jerry Jones' expense. Daals fans must be fuming with hate towards Jerry. Yep. If you assemble all that no way you can have any money for offense.

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rezburna 5000 POSTS! + Join Date: Feb 2013 Location: Kenner, LA Posts: 7,935	Re: Corey White Progression Originally Posted by K Major This is one player I wouldn't want. He has done next to nothing in Dallas and is as brittle as they come. different system, different environment, different player.

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The Dude 5000 POSTS! + Join Date: Jul 2011 Posts: 9,050	Re: Corey White Progression Originally Posted by hagan714 Patrick Robinson is a had sell. injury history makes him replaceable but i could understand the saints trying him for another year. he has shown some serious promise. right now white has his spot on the roster and Pat has a fight on his hands. i would love to see the saint take a risk on the second day of the draft and get a CB with size to develop like they did with white. I would at least like to see what he can do under Ryan before pulling the plug on him. YOu never know maybe Ryan can get that 1st round play out of him.
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Mr.Riaton 1000 Posts + Join Date: Mar 2013 Location: Broussard,La. Posts: 1,264	Re: Corey White Progression Originally Posted by Danno Its amazing how much better players play when they're placed in a scheme that fits their skillset. OK, maybe its not as amazing as it is common sense. Its also why Dallas sucks so bad. They have mostly 3-4 press personnel being forced to play in a 4-3 Tampa-2 system. Spagnola ring a bell? Even a caveman could have predicted that would fail. How come us average Joe's can see that yet highly paid NFL GM's can't? Because Jerry Jones is a f**king moron! He drafted a center in the first round!

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ScottF 5000 POSTS! + Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: Atlanta Posts: 6,324	Re: Corey White Progression Is Corey White better than Greer at this point? No. As a third year pro with 8-9 starts under his belt vs. a 32 year coming off brutal injury? Probably

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SaintLeonard Bounty hunter Join Date: Dec 2013 Location: Nashville Posts: 490	Re: Corey White Progression Originally Posted by ScottF Is Corey White better than Greer at this point? No. As a third year pro with 8-9 starts under his belt vs. a 32 year coming off brutal injury? Probably Yeah, this will be interesting to keep an eye on heading into next year. Has White's great play solidified him as a starter, or does Greer earn it back? Wouldn't be mad either way.

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