2014 NFL Draft

lee909 · 03-16-2014, 11:05 AM

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jeanpierre · 03-16-2014, 12:50 PM

Originally Posted by lee909

Read similar about Van Noy

Similar in that he's a weak hitter or similar that he's a 43 OLB?!?

lee909 · 03-16-2014, 12:51 PM

4-3 small frame and wont be able to add much muscle

lee909 · 03-16-2014, 12:53 PM

WEAKNESSES: Not an elite athlete overall. A bit slow to 'shoot his gun' when ballcarriers are running at him and relies too much on a simple bull-rush when coming off the edge. Wasn't as disruptive as a senior, in part due to opponents game-planning to avoid him. However, he was also without 2013 first-round pick DL Ziggy Ansah occupying blockers in front of him.

Relies on instincts and efficiency, rather than physicality. Beats blockers to the action, rather than taking them on shedding violently and isn't an explosive tackler. Projects best as a traditional outside linebacker in the 4-3 alignment because of this lack of take-on mentality, though he has shown the ability to get to the quarterback.

jeanpierre · 03-16-2014, 11:46 PM

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Quick Notes on What Teams May Be Doing - Just like they knew the Saints wouldn't be doing anything in Free Agency...

jeanpierre · 03-17-2014, 12:53 AM

Originally Posted by |Mitch|

Someone like Travis Swanson from Arkansas in the 2nd/3rd perhaps?

Neaux, should we take a Center early, I'd want Weston Richburg; but I'd prefer to spend a later pick and take Tyler Larsen...

halloween 65 · 03-17-2014, 04:45 AM

1. Ra'Shede Hageman DT Minnesota
I just don't see letting this guy go by us.
2 . Keith McGill CB Utah
Guy has size and is fluid
3. Jordon Matthes WR Vanderbilt
He falls in our lap
4. Marcus Martin C USC
With 2 pro-bowl gaurds on his sides this has the makings of run or pass written all over it.
5. Lorenzo Taliaferra RB Coastal Carolina
Payton likes small school guys and this one has size, speed and toughness not to mention he's 229 lbs. My thumper.
5. Andrew Jackson ILB Western Kentuckey
When a guy patterns his play around Ray Lewis and his presence is felt on the field I'm in.
My thinking is Ryan getting Byrd in the secondary and adding McGill in the draft our secondary is set. Adding Jackson at ILB with Lofon and the addition of Hageman at DT who can play multiple positions up front, running on us will be hard. Kind of like damn if you do, damned if you don't.
On O Payton sets the O-line straight with Martin at C gets a power run game going with PT, Ingram, Robinson, and Taliaferra opening up the play action for Brees and still gets a new toy in a sure handed Matthews to throw to that reminds me of a prime Colston. Now if any team still wants Graham I think we could get another TE in the draft one that is well rounded.

jeanpierre · 03-17-2014, 10:01 AM

Originally Posted by halloween 65

1. Ra'Shede Hageman DT Minnesota
I just don't see letting this guy go by us.
2 . Keith McGill CB Utah
Guy has size and is fluid
3. Jordon Matthes WR Vanderbilt
He falls in our lap
4. Marcus Martin C USC
With 2 pro-bowl gaurds on his sides this has the makings of run or pass written all over it.
5. Lorenzo Taliaferra RB Coastal Carolina
Payton likes small school guys and this one has size, speed and toughness not to mention he's 229 lbs. My thumper.
5. Andrew Jackson ILB Western Kentuckey
When a guy patterns his play around Ray Lewis and his presence is felt on the field I'm in.
My thinking is Ryan getting Byrd in the secondary and adding McGill in the draft our secondary is set. Adding Jackson at ILB with Lofon and the addition of Hageman at DT who can play multiple positions up front, running on us will be hard. Kind of like damn if you do, damned if you don't.
On O Payton sets the O-line straight with Martin at C gets a power run game going with PT, Ingram, Robinson, and Taliaferra opening up the play action for Brees and still gets a new toy in a sure handed Matthews to throw to that reminds me of a prime Colston. Now if any team still wants Graham I think we could get another TE in the draft one that is well rounded.

Some scouting reports question Ra'Shede Hageman commitment to the game and more of a workout warrior...

Jordan Matthews is probably who Payton has in mind after their interview; though I'm warming to Donte Moncrief...

Liked Marcus Martin early on as a late fourth round pick, but I'm cooling after his rise into the third round despite a mediocre combine display which wreaks of agent hype (know it's their job, but I don't want to be the buyer; now, Weston Richburg he's the goods and is the only Center I want before the 100th pick; after that Tyler Larsen is a geaux in the fifth round...

McGill definitely has the measurables and he had an interception at the Senior Bowl on a busted play; but he's had several injuries, including the Senior Bowl Week and has no history against elite WR and struggled at the Reeses Game against Matthews and pulled a hammy trying to keep up...

Lorenzo Taliaferro definitely has size, but I'm not sure his running skills are a match for our zone blocking scheme; he's more of a full back and not sure he's proven his hands are that great; other than the 3-cone drill, his measurables indicate him more of a UDFA; but I'm definitely down with mining the small schools for the gems...

hagan714 · 03-17-2014, 09:46 PM

Originally Posted by halloween 65

1. Ra'Shede Hageman DT Minnesota
I just don't see letting this guy go by us.

I pointed him out last year as a surprise second rounder. A first i never saw coming. the issue with him is not so much dedication as the Gophers kept him on the field too much. they did not have the rotation. In the NFL i am sticking my neck out here i think he will thrive in a solid rotation.

Then again there maybe a grain of truth to desire or lack of. as a pass rushing DT, which the saints do not have, he may just be what the doctor order for the DL.

He is one of those player high risk high reward in the first. 50-59 as to whether or not the pick pays off. I could live with the pick but i would be holding my breath till i see what we got.

jeanpierre · 03-17-2014, 09:58 PM

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Outside Linebacker	21	23.33%
Tackle (Offense)	48	53.33%
Safety	12	13.33%
Inside Linebacker	17	18.89%
Center	26	28.89%
Cornerback	29	32.22%
Wide Receiver	32	35.56%
Guard	9	10.00%
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lee909 Site Donor 2015 Join Date: Mar 2012 Location: Watford England Posts: 8,803 Blog Entries: 1	Re: 2014 NFL Draft 4-3 small frame and wont be able to add much muscle

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lee909 Site Donor 2015 Join Date: Mar 2012 Location: Watford England Posts: 8,803 Blog Entries: 1	Re: 2014 NFL Draft WEAKNESSES: Not an elite athlete overall. A bit slow to 'shoot his gun' when ballcarriers are running at him and relies too much on a simple bull-rush when coming off the edge. Wasn't as disruptive as a senior, in part due to opponents game-planning to avoid him. However, he was also without 2013 first-round pick DL Ziggy Ansah occupying blockers in front of him. Relies on instincts and efficiency, rather than physicality. Beats blockers to the action, rather than taking them on shedding violently and isn't an explosive tackler. Projects best as a traditional outside linebacker in the 4-3 alignment because of this lack of take-on mentality, though he has shown the ability to get to the quarterback. jeanpierre likes this.
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03-17-2014, 12:53 AM	#616
jeanpierre Site Donor 2018 Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Thibodaux Posts: 43,543 Blog Entries: 39	Re: 2014 NFL Draft Originally Posted by \|Mitch\| Someone like Travis Swanson from Arkansas in the 2nd/3rd perhaps? Neaux, should we take a Center early, I'd want Weston Richburg; but I'd prefer to spend a later pick and take Tyler Larsen... MarchingOn likes this.

03-17-2014, 04:45 AM	#617
halloween 65 5000 POSTS! + Join Date: Sep 2011 Location: Grand Haven, Michigan by way of a little Mississippi River town in Louisiana Posts: 5,893	Re: 2014 NFL Draft 1. Ra'Shede Hageman DT Minnesota I just don't see letting this guy go by us. 2 . Keith McGill CB Utah Guy has size and is fluid 3. Jordon Matthes WR Vanderbilt He falls in our lap 4. Marcus Martin C USC With 2 pro-bowl gaurds on his sides this has the makings of run or pass written all over it. 5. Lorenzo Taliaferra RB Coastal Carolina Payton likes small school guys and this one has size, speed and toughness not to mention he's 229 lbs. My thumper. 5. Andrew Jackson ILB Western Kentuckey When a guy patterns his play around Ray Lewis and his presence is felt on the field I'm in. My thinking is Ryan getting Byrd in the secondary and adding McGill in the draft our secondary is set. Adding Jackson at ILB with Lofon and the addition of Hageman at DT who can play multiple positions up front, running on us will be hard. Kind of like damn if you do, damned if you don't. On O Payton sets the O-line straight with Martin at C gets a power run game going with PT, Ingram, Robinson, and Taliaferra opening up the play action for Brees and still gets a new toy in a sure handed Matthews to throw to that reminds me of a prime Colston. Now if any team still wants Graham I think we could get another TE in the draft one that is well rounded.

03-17-2014, 10:01 AM	#618
jeanpierre Site Donor 2018 Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Thibodaux Posts: 43,543 Blog Entries: 39	Re: 2014 NFL Draft Originally Posted by halloween 65 1. Ra'Shede Hageman DT Minnesota I just don't see letting this guy go by us. 2 . Keith McGill CB Utah Guy has size and is fluid 3. Jordon Matthes WR Vanderbilt He falls in our lap 4. Marcus Martin C USC With 2 pro-bowl gaurds on his sides this has the makings of run or pass written all over it. 5. Lorenzo Taliaferra RB Coastal Carolina Payton likes small school guys and this one has size, speed and toughness not to mention he's 229 lbs. My thumper. 5. Andrew Jackson ILB Western Kentuckey When a guy patterns his play around Ray Lewis and his presence is felt on the field I'm in. My thinking is Ryan getting Byrd in the secondary and adding McGill in the draft our secondary is set. Adding Jackson at ILB with Lofon and the addition of Hageman at DT who can play multiple positions up front, running on us will be hard. Kind of like damn if you do, damned if you don't. On O Payton sets the O-line straight with Martin at C gets a power run game going with PT, Ingram, Robinson, and Taliaferra opening up the play action for Brees and still gets a new toy in a sure handed Matthews to throw to that reminds me of a prime Colston. Now if any team still wants Graham I think we could get another TE in the draft one that is well rounded. Some scouting reports question Ra'Shede Hageman commitment to the game and more of a workout warrior... Jordan Matthews is probably who Payton has in mind after their interview; though I'm warming to Donte Moncrief... Liked Marcus Martin early on as a late fourth round pick, but I'm cooling after his rise into the third round despite a mediocre combine display which wreaks of agent hype (know it's their job, but I don't want to be the buyer; now, Weston Richburg he's the goods and is the only Center I want before the 100th pick; after that Tyler Larsen is a geaux in the fifth round... McGill definitely has the measurables and he had an interception at the Senior Bowl on a busted play; but he's had several injuries, including the Senior Bowl Week and has no history against elite WR and struggled at the Reeses Game against Matthews and pulled a hammy trying to keep up... Lorenzo Taliaferro definitely has size, but I'm not sure his running skills are a match for our zone blocking scheme; he's more of a full back and not sure he's proven his hands are that great; other than the 3-cone drill, his measurables indicate him more of a UDFA; but I'm definitely down with mining the small schools for the gems...
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03-17-2014, 09:46 PM	#619
hagan714 LB Mentallity Join Date: Dec 2005 Posts: 15,870 Blog Entries: 68	Re: 2014 NFL Draft Originally Posted by halloween 65 1. Ra'Shede Hageman DT Minnesota I just don't see letting this guy go by us. I pointed him out last year as a surprise second rounder. A first i never saw coming. the issue with him is not so much dedication as the Gophers kept him on the field too much. they did not have the rotation. In the NFL i am sticking my neck out here i think he will thrive in a solid rotation. Then again there maybe a grain of truth to desire or lack of. as a pass rushing DT, which the saints do not have, he may just be what the doctor order for the DL. He is one of those player high risk high reward in the first. 50-59 as to whether or not the pick pays off. I could live with the pick but i would be holding my breath till i see what we got.
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