2014 NFL Draft

jcp026 · 01-10-2014, 10:57 PM

Originally Posted by exile

Late round steal? Larry Webster, DE, Bloomsburg.

Larry Webster, DE, Bloomsburg - Football.com | Small School Prospects On The Rise

This is probably going to be one of those guys who flies up the draft board. We'll probably have to get him in the third at the latest.

hagan714 · 01-10-2014, 11:24 AM

Originally Posted by rezburna

Odell Beckham and Jarvis Landry. Take them both.

Odell Beckham - has SP type of player written all over him. my gut says he odds on favorite

Jarvis Landry - i stand buy what i said. he is the best well rounded WR coming out of college. I see a lot of Anquan Boldin in his game.

jeanpierre · 01-10-2014, 07:44 PM

The sucky part about being a good team is not being able to grab a top ten pick every once in a while...

LB Khalil Mack looks to be a BEAST...

But I'd rather reload than do a Ditka in the draft...

Usually don't like the risk/gamble of a cornerback in the first round, but really like how CB Justin Gilbert, OK St, could add/complement our squad...

halloween 65 · 01-10-2014, 08:36 PM

Originally Posted by jeanpierre

The sucky part about being a good team is not being able to grab a top ten pick every once in a while...

LB Khalil Mack looks to be a BEAST...

But I'd rather reload than do a Ditka in the draft...

Usually don't like the risk/gamble of a cornerback in the first round, but really like how CB Justin Gilbert, OK St, could add/complement our squad...

Gilbert looks pretty darn good, I liked his work. I didn't look at Mack but I will. And I would not give our picks to get the O-lineman, but if somehow someway he falls I'd take him in a heartbeat!! I hope we trade down for more picks to be honest.

jeanpierre · 01-10-2014, 07:46 PM

Rams want out of No. 2...

Would it be worth the move up to grab OT Jake Matthews?!?

hagan714 · 01-11-2014, 07:06 PM

Originally Posted by jeanpierre

Rams want out of No. 2...

Would it be worth the move up to grab OT Jake Matthews?!?

IMO i sat no. i look at washington trading into 1 if an OL is there. we are not so bad that moving back a few spots and picking up a pick or two would hurt the team.

besides after todays game i think we have LOT.

lee909 · 01-12-2014, 12:19 AM

Originally Posted by hagan714

IMO i sat no. i look at washington trading into 1 if an OL is there. we are not so bad that moving back a few spots and picking up a pick or two would hurt the team.

besides after todays game i think we have LOT.

Its Washingtons pick they are trying to get out of.The last of the RGIII trade.Proven to ve s great trade for the Rams if you really look inti it.

They traded away 2nd overall in 2for Washingtons 6th pick (then flipped that) 2nd rounder and 2013/2014 1st rounders(2nd pick this year).
All together

2012 Traded pick 2 for pick 6 and a second rounder. Pick 6 was traded to the Cowboys for pick 14 and a second rounder.

They got
Michael Brockers DT
Isiah Pead RB
Janorious Jenkins CB

2013
Traded Washingtons pick and there 7th for Atlantas 1st,3,6.Then traded there own 6th and the clowbs for Houstons 5th.

They got
Alex Ogltree LB
Steadman Bailey
Zac Stacy

2014
Washingtons 1st (pick 2)

That is great wirk from the GM

ChrisXVI · 01-10-2014, 08:21 PM

Hagan and jeanpierre, I want your opinions on something. Of course we don't know what will happen in free agency, but if Vic Beasley and Kyle Van Noy are both available when we pick and we still have a need at OLB... Which one would y'all rather we draft? I've read countless mock drafts and those two seem to be the most common picks for us. I'm leaning towards Van Noy because of his abilities in coverage and he can play ILB if needed.

jeanpierre · 01-11-2014, 01:44 AM

Originally Posted by ChrisXVI

Hagan and jeanpierre, I want your opinions on something. Of course we don't know what will happen in free agency, but if Vic Beasley and Kyle Van Noy are both available when we pick and we still have a need at OLB... Which one would y'all rather we draft? I've read countless mock drafts and those two seem to be the most common picks for us. I'm leaning towards Van Noy because of his abilities in coverage and he can play ILB if needed.

Beasley from what I see will be gone by pick #17 unless he messes his pants at the combine or at one of the invite games where there's a concentration of talent...

He's the same guy we have in Junior Galette from what I've seen with maybe a slightly higher ceiling; he doesn't warrant a selection by the Saints...

Van Noy is one of those guys who's got the film but GM's may be afraid to pull the trigger in the first or upper second round because he doesn't have those combine measurables to reinforce, explain the argument for selection...

I've always preferred Sammy Knights vs Reynaldo Turnbulls; just gotta see where a prospect can apply his gifts to the game to give him an edge; rather have a guy that makes plays with his smarts and pushing his talents every week to the extreme than wasted "potential"...

If he's there in the third round, I'd strongly consider Van Noy; but where we'll be picking in the third - he should be gone and really like a couple of safeties grading in the second round to transition from the Harper/Jenkins experiment that has failed miserably and to complement Kenny Vaccaro and Rafael Bush so that we shore up the backstop...

For me, those big gashing plays are still fresh in my mind...

hagan714 · 01-11-2014, 07:15 PM

Originally Posted by ChrisXVI

Hagan and jeanpierre, I want your opinions on something. Of course we don't know what will happen in free agency, but if Vic Beasley and Kyle Van Noy are both available when we pick and we still have a need at OLB... Which one would y'all rather we draft? I've read countless mock drafts and those two seem to be the most common picks for us. I'm leaning towards Van Noy because of his abilities in coverage and he can play ILB if needed.

Beasly i am not so high on. against some of the top OT in the draft he has played against he has had little impact. i look at lB as players that need to hold there own all game long and not just a few plays ina game. I will give him this: he seems to have that knack for big plays when a game is on the line.

that bring us to Van. i like him a bit better as a steady player. he is hard to judge because like Beasley when he played top competition he kinda disappeared.

if i had to pick from only these two i would cross my fingers and go with Von. reason versatility and pass coverage skills.

there are others i would look at in round one.

FS jumps out at me along with OLB. we need to get bigger and fast.

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01-10-2014, 10:57 PM	#1
jcp026 500th Post Join Date: Mar 2010 Posts: 953	Re: 2014 NFL Draft Originally Posted by exile Late round steal? Larry Webster, DE, Bloomsburg. Larry Webster, DE, Bloomsburg - Football.com \| Small School Prospects On The Rise This is probably going to be one of those guys who flies up the draft board. We'll probably have to get him in the third at the latest.
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01-10-2014, 11:24 AM	#2
hagan714 LB Mentallity Join Date: Dec 2005 Posts: 15,870 Blog Entries: 68	Re: 2014 NFL Draft Originally Posted by rezburna Odell Beckham and Jarvis Landry. Take them both. Odell Beckham - has SP type of player written all over him. my gut says he odds on favorite Jarvis Landry - i stand buy what i said. he is the best well rounded WR coming out of college. I see a lot of Anquan Boldin in his game. Cscofield28 likes this.

01-10-2014, 07:44 PM	#3
jeanpierre Site Donor 2018 Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Thibodaux Posts: 43,543 Blog Entries: 39	Re: 2014 NFL Draft The sucky part about being a good team is not being able to grab a top ten pick every once in a while... LB Khalil Mack looks to be a BEAST... But I'd rather reload than do a Ditka in the draft... Usually don't like the risk/gamble of a cornerback in the first round, but really like how CB Justin Gilbert, OK St, could add/complement our squad... MarchingOn likes this.

01-10-2014, 08:36 PM	#4
halloween 65 5000 POSTS! + Join Date: Sep 2011 Location: Grand Haven, Michigan by way of a little Mississippi River town in Louisiana Posts: 5,893	Re: 2014 NFL Draft Originally Posted by jeanpierre The sucky part about being a good team is not being able to grab a top ten pick every once in a while... LB Khalil Mack looks to be a BEAST... But I'd rather reload than do a Ditka in the draft... Usually don't like the risk/gamble of a cornerback in the first round, but really like how CB Justin Gilbert, OK St, could add/complement our squad... Gilbert looks pretty darn good, I liked his work. I didn't look at Mack but I will. And I would not give our picks to get the O-lineman, but if somehow someway he falls I'd take him in a heartbeat!! I hope we trade down for more picks to be honest.

01-10-2014, 07:46 PM	#5
jeanpierre Site Donor 2018 Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Thibodaux Posts: 43,543 Blog Entries: 39	Re: 2014 NFL Draft Rams want out of No. 2... Would it be worth the move up to grab OT Jake Matthews?!?

01-11-2014, 07:06 PM	#6
hagan714 LB Mentallity Join Date: Dec 2005 Posts: 15,870 Blog Entries: 68	Re: 2014 NFL Draft Originally Posted by jeanpierre Rams want out of No. 2... Would it be worth the move up to grab OT Jake Matthews?!? IMO i sat no. i look at washington trading into 1 if an OL is there. we are not so bad that moving back a few spots and picking up a pick or two would hurt the team. besides after todays game i think we have LOT. jeanpierre and MarchingOn like this.

01-12-2014, 12:19 AM	#7
lee909 5000 POSTS! + Join Date: Mar 2012 Location: Watford England Posts: 8,860 Blog Entries: 1	Re: 2014 NFL Draft Originally Posted by hagan714 IMO i sat no. i look at washington trading into 1 if an OL is there. we are not so bad that moving back a few spots and picking up a pick or two would hurt the team. besides after todays game i think we have LOT. Its Washingtons pick they are trying to get out of.The last of the RGIII trade.Proven to ve s great trade for the Rams if you really look inti it. They traded away 2nd overall in 2for Washingtons 6th pick (then flipped that) 2nd rounder and 2013/2014 1st rounders(2nd pick this year). All together 2012 Traded pick 2 for pick 6 and a second rounder. Pick 6 was traded to the Cowboys for pick 14 and a second rounder. They got Michael Brockers DT Isiah Pead RB Janorious Jenkins CB 2013 Traded Washingtons pick and there 7th for Atlantas 1st,3,6.Then traded there own 6th and the clowbs for Houstons 5th. They got Alex Ogltree LB Steadman Bailey Zac Stacy 2014 Washingtons 1st (pick 2) That is great wirk from the GM hagan714 and MarchingOn like this.
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01-10-2014, 08:21 PM	#8
ChrisXVI 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Aug 2011 Location: Madison, WI Posts: 11,482	2014 NFL Draft Hagan and jeanpierre, I want your opinions on something. Of course we don't know what will happen in free agency, but if Vic Beasley and Kyle Van Noy are both available when we pick and we still have a need at OLB... Which one would y'all rather we draft? I've read countless mock drafts and those two seem to be the most common picks for us. I'm leaning towards Van Noy because of his abilities in coverage and he can play ILB if needed.

01-11-2014, 01:44 AM	#9
jeanpierre Site Donor 2018 Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Thibodaux Posts: 43,543 Blog Entries: 39	Re: 2014 NFL Draft Originally Posted by ChrisXVI Hagan and jeanpierre, I want your opinions on something. Of course we don't know what will happen in free agency, but if Vic Beasley and Kyle Van Noy are both available when we pick and we still have a need at OLB... Which one would y'all rather we draft? I've read countless mock drafts and those two seem to be the most common picks for us. I'm leaning towards Van Noy because of his abilities in coverage and he can play ILB if needed. Beasley from what I see will be gone by pick #17 unless he messes his pants at the combine or at one of the invite games where there's a concentration of talent... He's the same guy we have in Junior Galette from what I've seen with maybe a slightly higher ceiling; he doesn't warrant a selection by the Saints... Van Noy is one of those guys who's got the film but GM's may be afraid to pull the trigger in the first or upper second round because he doesn't have those combine measurables to reinforce, explain the argument for selection... I've always preferred Sammy Knights vs Reynaldo Turnbulls; just gotta see where a prospect can apply his gifts to the game to give him an edge; rather have a guy that makes plays with his smarts and pushing his talents every week to the extreme than wasted "potential"... If he's there in the third round, I'd strongly consider Van Noy; but where we'll be picking in the third - he should be gone and really like a couple of safeties grading in the second round to transition from the Harper/Jenkins experiment that has failed miserably and to complement Kenny Vaccaro and Rafael Bush so that we shore up the backstop... For me, those big gashing plays are still fresh in my mind... hagan714 and MarchingOn like this.
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01-11-2014, 07:15 PM	#10
hagan714 LB Mentallity Join Date: Dec 2005 Posts: 15,870 Blog Entries: 68	Re: 2014 NFL Draft Originally Posted by ChrisXVI Hagan and jeanpierre, I want your opinions on something. Of course we don't know what will happen in free agency, but if Vic Beasley and Kyle Van Noy are both available when we pick and we still have a need at OLB... Which one would y'all rather we draft? I've read countless mock drafts and those two seem to be the most common picks for us. I'm leaning towards Van Noy because of his abilities in coverage and he can play ILB if needed. Beasly i am not so high on. against some of the top OT in the draft he has played against he has had little impact. i look at lB as players that need to hold there own all game long and not just a few plays ina game. I will give him this: he seems to have that knack for big plays when a game is on the line. that bring us to Van. i like him a bit better as a steady player. he is hard to judge because like Beasley when he played top competition he kinda disappeared. if i had to pick from only these two i would cross my fingers and go with Von. reason versatility and pass coverage skills. there are others i would look at in round one. FS jumps out at me along with OLB. we need to get bigger and fast.
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